Kids...

KareninCanada
KareninCanada Posts: 962 Member
edited October 23 in Health and Weight Loss
Like honeysprinkle, I have a daughter who needs a little help. At her last checkup the nurse asked if we wanted a referral to a nutritionist... I declined because I know everything we need to do food-wise, it's just a matter of actually DOing it. (I'm hoping that my own journey will rub off on her, of course.)

But I'd like to hear from some of you parents who've been successful with your kids - getting them healthier, slimmer, fitter, but without leading to a negative self-image or unhealthy body-consciousness.

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  • Tiggermummy
    Tiggermummy Posts: 312 Member
    my daughter is at the other end of the spetrum. She is borderline under weight all the time. I have to try and give her extra calories, but I try and do it without her knowing as I don't want her to learn bad habbits and then find she has weight problems when she is older as she can't just eat anything. (i add milk, cream or cheese to her meals where possible)

    But I think some of the things we did might work for losing weight

    Use a smaller plate before you start - a little food on a big plate can make you feel that you don't have very much - with DD1 she would be put off if she thought there was too much on her plate.
    I would dish up a portion and then remove half of it and keep it to one side. I would tell her I expected her to eat whatever is on her plate for the first bit. If she ate it all and still wanted more I could give it to her.
    For you this could make her feel like she is having more, even though she is just having what she needs?
    We have a family rule that we always stick to. We never have any chocolate before lunch. It is an occasional afternoon treat.

    Or reduce her portion sizes gradually.

    Cut out any snacks - its simple but can be difficult to achieve - you just have to not buy them, if they are not there they can't have them.
    Have fruit available as an alternative snack
    if my dd decides she is hungry an hour after eating --quite normal for her, I will first offer her a drink as kids often mistake being thirsty as hungry.
    Then I offer fruit - but nothing else.

    over the school holidays as she runs about and is more active then I give the treats more often, boxes of raisins or dish of grapes, orange segments or tinned fruit in juice not syrup.
    I also water down fruit juice by 50% and both kids prefer it that way.

    I would suggest changing things slowly one thing at a time, the fact you are here working on your life plan, would help her as well.
    and then look at the best ways to get her moving more.

    go for a walk together
    wii or other tracking games
    cycling/rollerskates
    tramplinging
    swimming

    perhaps even talking about setting goals for distance, or time etc to earn non-food rewards - eg new game, new bike, family outing... adapt to suit your needs and circumstances.

    Good luck to you both
  • natalieg0307
    natalieg0307 Posts: 237 Member
    I have two daughters.....one is very skinny (too skinny in my opinion.....doc says ok on the charts) and the other has an athletic build, but due to injuries and health issues, had to stop playing sports and doing anything physical for a few months. Her eating habits didn't change and during the time off from activites she gained a lot of weight. She's been cleared by all the docs to participate in sports now, so I'm hoping the weight will come off. Very difficult having girls at the opposite end of the spectrum.
  • KareninCanada
    KareninCanada Posts: 962 Member
    Thanks, Tiggermummy :) Those are some good suggestions!

    The indoor running track in our town has opened up to the public for free this winter, so I'm planning to try to get us there twice a week, and to free skating once or twice, and she has dance class one night a week as well... and if I can get over my own swimsuit phobia we'll try to go swimming more often. LOL
  • InvictusPheonix
    InvictusPheonix Posts: 129 Member
    I don't have any kids, but, i was a middle school swim coach for two years. It's pretty heartbreaking during those years (so many little girls are just starting to struggle with their image at that point).

    Personally (from my limited coaching experience) I learned parents shouldn't mention their childrens weights. EVER. Eating habits/activity levels are the only things a parent should slowly work to adjust.

    I can't even express how upsetting it was at times to have girls come to me and complain about their weight/be sluggish at practice because they ate so little before. Even walking through the locker room and seeing girls suck in walking past the mirror SUCKED.

    My best best best advice, is to find her a mentor. Maybe an older cousin/ect (if you have time, you) who is athletic/embraces healthy eating habits. It was incredible how well young girls responded when they had someone to follow/talk to about their image issues/weight/eating habits.
  • KareninCanada
    KareninCanada Posts: 962 Member
    That's it exactly... I've been that girl who sucked in, ever since I was about ten years old. And I watched my mom struggle for as long as I remember, and struggled along with her.

    She's seven now so I'm trying to nip it in the bud before it does become a problem for her. We've never talked about weight, ever. She's just starting to notice a little bit - she's not negative at all, because she doesn't get much in the way of media influence, and her group of friends is awesome. But she has commented that her belly is "fat" - kind of as a joke, but it won't be long before that's not a joke anymore and she connects the dots between a chubby tummy and her clothes not fitting right. And once in a while she sees a commercial when we're out... she asked me the other day whether I was going to "come back from the gym tiny, like from a Bowflex". She's an observant kid. I told her no, I'm not going so I can get tiny, I'm going so I can get healthy.

    Side note - we're planning for her to join the recreational swim team in the fall once she gets through another graded level. I've heard nothing but good things about that as far as confidence and fitness are concerned. :)
  • I would not allow sweet foods or junk food in the house. Here is what we do breakfast consist of a healthy cereal(cheerios)fat free milk, and a serving of fruit.Then a small snack in the mid morning healthy of course(fruit,nuts,lowfat string cheese etc..) for lunch i always give them a serving of fruit,veggies and protein. Then another small snack in the afternoon when they get home from school and then dinner they get protein of some kind,fruit,veggies and bread. Remember that a serving size for us is not a serving size for kids our doctor said to give them a tablespoon of each food for every year they are old. So if they are 5 they get 5 tablespoons. Before we allow them to have seconds they must wait 20 min. If they are still hungry then we will give them half a serving of everything. After that they are done. We also only give them 4 oz of what ever they are having to drink milk is usually what they get and if they want more to drink during the meal they have to have water. Our TV is only on for 30 min during the day. If they need something else to do they can play in their rooms or outside. For extra exercise we take the dogs for a walk or they can play 30 min of xbox or wii it has to be a game they have to get up and use their bodies to control it. My kids have a bouncing ball they sit on and bounce around the house on. We live in an area that has long cold winters and we can't always go outside. So I'm always exploring new ways to get them into exercising with out them knowing. We go for walks outside when it is 25 degrees or warmer. Just so you know it can be done you just have to explore your options in your area.
  • Lesa_Sass
    Lesa_Sass Posts: 2,213 Member
    I do not mean this to sound as harsh as it may come across, so I hope you do not take offense to this:

    It is your job as her parent to purchase and provide her with healthy nutrition. This starts at the grocery store. Teaching her these healthy habits now will be what molds her for the rest of her life. I hear so many time from parents of over weight children that they feel they "must" buy the junk food for them, because that is the only foods they like, HELLO, of course they like junk food, come on who does not.

    You have said that you hope that your own journey rubs off on her, well, one thing you can do is sit down with her and ask her to help you. Start teaching her about making better nutritional choices and you guys can do it together.

    Now I have no idea what you feed your child or what you allow her to have, but just an fyi, juice is not as good for children as people once thought, well, unless you are actually making your own juice and drinking it right then. If you are allowing sodas, that is a bad choice for a child, not only nutrition wise, but for their teeth as well.

    I hope that you are able to set some boundaries and stick to them. I know that being a parent is the hardest job in the world, but if you make these changes now, you will not have to deal with a very sad teenager, which is more heart breaking than telling a child that they can not have a little debbie snack cake or a soda.

    Good luck.
  • BigDaddyBRC
    BigDaddyBRC Posts: 2,395 Member
    it's just a matter of actually DOing it.

    Being bluntly honest...is there any other way? Stop conditioning your children into believing what they and you are eating is healthy.

    I do not allow my kids to be picky with foods. They have to ask to eat other snacks that are in the house that are not fruits, they get milk or water with maybe one soda during the week. I don't let my kids sit in front of the computer or TV unless they are winding down or we are watching a movie, or poor weather outside. If you involve your kids in your own exercising, then it becomes an adventure. go on hikes, walk a museum, something other than sitting on your butts. in turn, your family is more involved with one another.
  • I think one of the best things I have done is get an idea of how much they should be eating, and then stick to my guns around the stuff that is really going matter (starchy carb portion size etc.) Often its less than you might imagine. I quite like the fist size starchy carb portion (kids fists are pretty small), palm of hand (and thickness) of meat (as a maximum and again it looks small), and the rest vegetables for a main meal. Sweets/baking etc. in small quantities and very small portion size, so that if you do have those things fairly regularly, they are not adding heaps of extra calories every day. I am the master of tiny baking, so we have tiny cookie cutters etc. and one of my yummy (butter-laden) cocoa biscuits is only 10 calories, but adds a wee bit of a treat to a lunch box.

    Getting a good grip of suitable portion size for kids is key I reckon, so wherever you can find that information, I would strongly recommend that. When I make the girls an icecream the scoop barely pokes out the top of the cone (and mine isn't much bigger) which is about 1/4 of the size that your typical 'kiddy cone' yields, and they know that a big icecream is a once a month or less thing, but that we can eat a small, home-size portion once a week or so, because we keep it a sensible size. I saw a thing on SuperNanny (in the UK) and she was saying that most parents gave their children about 3 - 4 times as much icecream in a serving as they should be, and that pretty quickly adds up if you're eating icecream more than once a month or so. Even saying that, we don't regularly have dessert, and its carefully thought about to fit in with our day. So if we've had a particularly active day, or a particularly light dinner for some reason, then we might finish with a small icecream, but 80% of the time, our main dinner is sufficient and we don't need anything afterwards.

    The other thing I remind myself is that kids eat for some of the same (non-hunger) reasons we do; boredom, tired etc. Often, when my girls are really tired they get to the end of dinner and day "I'm still hungry," so I usually say "Have a glass of water, wait 20 minutes and see how you feel then, because sometimes your body confuses tired or thirsty with hungry." I don't think they have ever come back after twenty minutes hungry. Once they get busy, and give the food time to go down they find they are actually full.

    You talk about breaking that cycle of Mum struggling and carrying on down through the generations and that is exactly where I'm at too! We talk about being fit and healthy, and we talk a little bit about maintaining a healthy weight (but not directed at anyone in the family or anyone we know), just as in "This is one of the things that help us to stay fit and healthy, along with regular exercise, sufficient sleep and a healthy, varied diet."
  • KareninCanada
    KareninCanada Posts: 962 Member
    Thanks :)


    I guess I didn't really say what I was really thinking when I first posted. Yes, I'm looking for and appreciate the tips and encouragement from you all. And yes, portion sizes is a HUGE part of it that we need to pay attention to. Especially things like ice cream and cereal that have been generally served in a full-size bowl.

    But what I think I'm looking for just as much is, how have you made the lifestyle changes in such a way that you didn't call attention to your child's body, and didn't plant the seeds for a negative body image? Right now she still has that "little bit of awesomeness" that every self-confident little girl has, and I don't want to accidentally put out any of that fire. She did a kids' triathlon in the summer and was just glowing at the end. I want to keep that. And maybe I'm worrying about nothing - maybe it's just my own chubby and sensitive inner child speaking up. It could be that since we're addressing it when she's seven, instead of twelve, that the self-consciousness I'm worrying about will never actually develop.


    What we've done so far is this...

    - I've switched the kids back to using kid-size plastic dishes to help with controlling portion sizes.

    - Treats are now budgeted, motivated initially by my 4yo starting to sneak candy and snacks and go hide with them. The kids are on a token system already for behavior and for their TV time, so I added a new token for one treat per day which they can choose to use for a daytime sweet or for dessert.

    - Adding more raw fruits & veggies to meals & snacks, mostly apples, oranges, baby carrots, cucumber, celery.

    - I added "30 minutes of exercise" to her daily reminder list (she loves checklists)

    - We've started learning about food groups as a health topic in our homeschool, and when we have a meal we have been discussing what we've got on our plates. This week we'll be looking at how to read food labels and next week portion sizes.

    - She's aware that mommy is part of a gym program to get healthier, but we haven't talked at all about body size/shape or anything like that. (Except for her asking me if I'd come back tiny like the people on TV who use Bowflex.)

    - It's too darn cold to go outside (-35C this morning) but last night we got out the Wii Zumba game, and tonight we're planning to go to the gym for some basketball, tomorrow skating... I'm trying to find fitness opportunities that I can share with the kids and that they will embrace as fun.


    I feel like I'm on the right track. Open to additional ideas, which I'm sure other parents appreciate as well! :o)
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