Paula Deen represents everything that is wrong with America

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  • @ papastu...Couldnt agree more

    Never seen her show, however I did stumble across a show recently w/ her son taking her meals and cutting all the calories down. Pretty cool way to bring the food into a healthier light while keeping the flavor true to what she expected. And seeing how the light 'clicked' when he showed her original calorie/fat count vs his. Makes you kinda hope she takes something away from it to help herself.
  • jadedone
    jadedone Posts: 2,446 Member
    I'm not sure why people care so much about any recent news about Paula Deen. The woman cooks food...that's it. She's not pretended to be a health and diet guru. I'm not sure why people feel she has any real impact on anything. Didn't read the link...I'm mostly just commenting on how much conversation has been generated by her diabetes announcement. I'm just wondering why people are shocked or whatever.

    +1
  • Shocked or whatever? .... because she is now taking money to become a spokesperson for treatment of a devastating disease that is caused by behaviors she's been promoting. Shocked or whatever? .... because she has led people over a cliff for years and now she gets to get paid for what? Shocked or whatever? .... because "moderation" when it comes to her style of cooking is a cynical joke.

    I have been especially amazed by the lengths that news outlets have gone to, to blither that her cooking *was not* an important part of her diabetes. Doughnut cheeseburgers, for f**ks sake. Yes, the years of doughnut-based cooking contributed to her diabetes. Let's just all be reasonably intelligent grown-ups and own up to that simple and obvious fact, ok?

    I certainly don't blame her for all obesity in America, but yeah, she helped.

    I totally agree. I'm actually more surprised that so many people on a fitness/health-oriented web site are defending her cooking... No, she is not a bad person and she did not force food into everyone's mouths, but a lot of her recipes really take a certain style of cooking to its unhealthiest extreme.

    I don't think farm workers ate cheeseburgers sandwiched in donuts, either. :) A good chunk of one side of my family runs small farms and they definitely get to eat more and not "dietetic" foods per se, because of the increased physical activity, but it's not crazy stuff like that.

    I don't know, I have diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, and cancer in my immediate family, and so do so many others, so this kind of thing strikes a chord. Far better to fight and do all you can to prevent these diseases as best as you can, than try to cure them later.
  • xraychick77
    xraychick77 Posts: 1,775 Member
    This Video Below is hilarious - but also a must see. Just an example of why people are upset about this Paula Deen issue. For three years she knew she had this disease yet promoted "bad habits" like this. She was doing herself an injustice by eating this type of food. Its sad, because diabetes is a very serious issue. When you can take a big bite out of a doughnut egg bacon burger its like your saying "F" my life....

    #justonegirlsopinion


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1PsDyhNFBI

    (didn't read the article, this maybe included already)


    i work in the health care field. I see people ALL THE TIME who know they have health issues but yet do not take the steps to fix it. I see people admitted for diabetes problems or heart problems up in their rooms eating mcdonalds or kfc. People come in with chest pain or shortness of breath, then soon as they leave light up a cig. i see people with crohns disease who refuse to change their eating habits. etc etc. despite the doctors telling them what they can do to be healthy, they just dont seem to care. is paula deen any different? just another american who refuses to take responsiblity for their own health.
    there are tons of celebrities out there who have bad habits. are we going to blame them for people who drink to much, or do drugs or commit crimes?


    "Every man is the architect of his own life. He builds it just the way he wants it. However, after he has built what he wants, he sometimes decides that he doesn't like what he has built and looks for someone or something to blame instead of changing himself. "
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
    All of you that want to lose weight here on this site, blame the likes of Paula Deen for your condition? Good luck with that attitude.

    If one can't see Paula's show for what is really is vs what blame you want to assign, then you have already lost your battle with weight.
  • Martucha123
    Martucha123 Posts: 1,089 Member
    WOW. I read the first post, clicked on the link, went through recipes and thought
    "what to discuss this food is disgusting, who would even eat that..."

    And then I saw the answers.

    Seriously for me (I'm not from US haven't heard about her before) It's hard to believe one would even consider eating this, even PREPARING this. I couldn't without gaging. Donut with bacon? Really?

    You say everything in moderation? Sorry but NO. NOT everything. NOT deep fried cake, NOT deep fried lasagna...
  • WOW. I read the first post, clicked on the link, went through recipes and thought
    "what to discuss this food is disgusting, who would even eat that..."

    And then I saw the answers.

    Seriously for me (I'm not from US haven't heard about her before) It's hard to believe one would even consider eating this, even PREPARING this. I couldn't without gaging. Donut with bacon? Really?

    You say everything in moderation? Sorry but NO. NOT everything. NOT deep fried cake, NOT deep fried lasagna...

    Many of us in the U.S. think they are super gross too, so don't worry ;)
  • msclairvoyant
    msclairvoyant Posts: 15 Member
    There is nothing wrong with this cook and how she represents everything that is wrong with American I do not understand.

    This woman is showing how this food is made, it's not like she's sneaking in the oil, cheese and carbs.
    She's not calling pizza a vegetable, is she?

    People can take the time to learn the recipe they can take the time to learn some stuff about nutrition themselves, or read the information on a back of a package before cooking the food.

    The attitude that this article shows is what is truly wrong.
    That is the attitude that our health is in anyone's hands that our not our own.

    Bingo. Take responsibility for yourself.
  • furrina
    furrina Posts: 148 Member
    So many people so desperately seek gurus and gods. Then they're so disappointed when their gods let them down or turn out to have human failings, or, worse, are exposed as "frauds" or their gospel is trumped by that of the next rising deity. Hasn't anyone watched the Wizard of Oz? Knowledge is power, and these wacky(and non-wacky) chefs, diet docs, fitness gurus and backlash-hedonists all offer some knowledge or another. Empower yourself and act accordingly.

    That said, in terms of health and nutrition (with exception of extreme excess) it's more about what you SHOULD do that is good than what you SHOULDN'T do. People talk about cutting out caffeine and alcohol, how bad x or y is for you, and vow to "cleanse" themselves of all the harm they've done with some or other guru's $nake oil. But the reality is that if you do eat cartloads of broccoli, kale and other cruciferous green veggies, blueberries, almonds, walnuts, lean protein, some whole grains etc. basically every day, and get a half hour of strenuous exercise 6 days a week and do enough strength training to keep your body in good shape. You can keep your morning coffee and your evening wine and have a bacon doughnut butter paula deen special every so often (though the truth is you probably won't want to) and it aint gonna do a damn thing to ya.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
    Why not? Sure it's the epidomy of sin eating but that's why I work out, why I eat clean 90% of the time, So if I want something like this, I can have it.

    I don't let my diet rule my life. I work out and eat better so I can rule food.

    She doesn't eat like that all the time. She said her foods are the exception to how she actually eats.

    If I'm having a get together or a party, I don't freakin' raw carrots and diet rocks for dinner. I want feel good foods that taste like heaven.
  • ...oh my. I'm all for eating what you want and working it off or whatever and treating yourself but holy cow. A lot of that seems so unnecessary for me. Why do you need to add eight table spoons of sugar to a milkshake?????
  • Pebble321
    Pebble321 Posts: 6,423 Member
    If it's any consolation, lots of Australian are fat and unhealthy too, and I'm betting most Aussies have never heard of this lady - I hadn't until today! I just googled her and maybe the recipes I saw weren't a good sample - but honestly, I've seen worse.

    I agree with the previous poster who says that most of the cooking shows on TV are not to teach you to cook, they are for entertainment value. We often get ideas from TV chefs, but will cook the recipe to our taste (which often means cutting down the amount of things like butter, oil, cream etc) - because we know what we like to eat and what is good for us. I don't have a problem with over the top recipes for occasional treats, but if people choose to cook and eat unhealthy foods all the time - well, that's their problem, not the fault of some TV presenter.
  • Elleinnz
    Elleinnz Posts: 1,661 Member
    To me the big thing is that for 2 or 3 years she has known about her condition - and that the eating she advocates adds to the risk of people getting diabetes - and keeps on showing the same shockingly unhealthy food.......hopefully not all her recipes are like this - my first thoughts - yuck - who on earth would actually want to eat this....(even as treat.....give me a lovely piece of cheesecake any time - but not fried in wonton wrappers and extra chocolate - oh and then wrapped in a cup of sugar!!)

    Paula Deen fries cheesecake!! http://youtu.be/42oUVwyFsZI
  • furrina
    furrina Posts: 148 Member
    y'all should remember this stuff comes from the land that gave us the turducken.
  • Yakisoba
    Yakisoba Posts: 719 Member
    Let's all blame Paula Deen for obesity in America. Of course they are unhealthy meals, but if we cook those meals and eat them why does that makes it her fault when we become overweight? I personally think it's a problem when we as a society are negatively affected by our own actions and decide to shift the blame on somebody else.

    ^ Amen.
  • TomsFZ1
    TomsFZ1 Posts: 12
    ...And we place blame on everyone else like Paula Deen when she didn't put a gun to our heads and scream "eat my recipes or I shoot!!!"

    "eat my recipes, Y'ALL, or I shoot!!!"

    I'm in the "take responsibility for yourself" camp.
  • nonafit
    nonafit Posts: 582 Member
    Not from US and I don't know Paula Deen.

    But I impressed with the number of people whom thinks its someone elses responsibilty. No wonder its always joke in my office... Lesson 101 on being rich - Go to US and start suing.
    No offence.

    I am with the other camp - stop whining and take responsibility for your own good pleaseeee
  • yogibella
    yogibella Posts: 321 Member
    It's not so much as someone like Paula Deen representing everything that is wrong with obesity but what is wrong with TV in America--and the cult of celebrity/personality/authority on things simply because you're famous. Really, she's an entertainer and she makes her living entertaining folks with her outlandish cooking and people relate to her. But she's not an authority on food, proper eating and not even diabetes. She gets paid well by the TV networks and now the pharmaceutical company.

    I think the reason why people are divided on the issue is that people think Paula Deen is a person when in fact she has become a brand. It's like blaming the Marlboro Man for the epidemic of smoking in America. The Marlboro man didn't force you to smoke...in fact, he's not even real! But millions of dollars were spent in advertising by the cigarette companies and successful branding and persuasions were made. People saw him and equated some good times with nice sticks of reds. We know better know and unfortunately the model/actor in the ads ended up with cancer. I don't think he ended up pushing cancer drugs though. So the point? We are ALL to blame.
  • houstonmacbro
    houstonmacbro Posts: 99 Member
    A few months ago I made a recipe of hers. It was amazing and lavish and full of fats. But I didn't die or get diabetes from eating that one dish.

    It was crock pot mac n cheese btw

    I do believe her food in unhealthy, but you can have it once a month or every other month or something. Its a special treat. You could probably cut out half the fat out of the recipes by using common sense (replacing the lard and butter and full fat cheese/creams with lower fat alternatives)

    Moral: moderation is key. She isn't a bad person, just a chef who cooks unhealthy food

    Agreed!!!

    I tweak recipes. While my verdict is still out on Paula Deen, I do know that you (we) have the power to modify recipes. I tried a recipe for bean and oatmeal 'burgers' and didn't like it much so I tweaked it. I almost have it where EYE like it with no fat in the recipe or the cooking (non-stick cooking spray instead of 'fried' in olive oil) ... does it taste like the original recipe? NO! But that's not the point. The author is not in my kitchen and doesn't have to deal with my life or lifestyle.

    We have the power to turn off the television, re-tweak recipes, and use common sense on what works for us.
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    I hadn't heard of Paula Deen so I looked up some of her recipes. With the suggested portion size, many of them weren't massively calorific - 300 - 700 for a main meal - and many are full of veg. There are exceptions:

    Lady and Sons Chicken Pot Pie

    Recipe makes four servings. One serving contains 2,344 calories, 221.5 grams of fat, 842 mg of cholesterol, and 58.8 carbohydrates. The quart of heavy cream involved in the recipe really helps it tip the scales.
    :noway:

    OK, you'd probably wan to avoid the cheeseburger served in an iced doughnut too...

    Many people with food and obesity related health problems would be way better off doing some home cooking and staying within recommended portion sizes than getting fast food and ready meals.

    Not all food programmes need to be healthy food programmes. It only takes one episode of Man Vs Food to make me choose a healthy dinner, for example! :laugh:
  • deep fried lasagna! Hilarity.
  • Just checked out a couple of her recipes...Now, I've had a couple of deep fried mars bars in my time but I don't think I could stomach even a bite out of most of them meals! :noway:
  • dakitten2
    dakitten2 Posts: 888 Member
    So did we all land here on MFP because we ate Paula Deen's food for years being led by the bright lights and being mindwashed by her?

    Well I didn't I ended up here because of years of unhealthy eating way before Paula Deen ever came on the scene. My finger securely points at me for endangering my health and well-being.

    If I was to adopt every celebrities life-style that I have watched over the years, I would be a drunken sot, snorting lines of cocaine but I would be WINNING! Thank you Charlie Sheen for that. I love Charlie Sheen's show (2 and half Men), so should I have grabbed a bunch of ho's and took every drug possible because I was a follower of a TV show? I think not. So lets see, the similiarites, Paula Deen hosts a TV show and while I make some of her less outrageous dishes, she is in no way responsible for the body that I am now living in. I AM! I snuck thru the drive-thru and had a 800 calorie Whopper and then came home and fixed a full 5-course meal and ate like I hadnt eaten in days.

    And what are we doing, we of all people are passing judgement on someone else's lifestyle when we have had to endure that for our entire life. I would think we would be more sympathetic. If not, let's drag every celebrity out here and see if we have been influenced by them to do things such as drinking, smoking, doping, commiting suicide, etc. I'm sorry but I feel sympathy for her and her family. Yes she knew what she was doing was endangering her health and yes I know what I did endangered mine. I'm taking responsibility for my actions and she'll have to do the same. I just cant comprehend a group of fat now or once fat group such as ourselves judging another's actions. I've been judged all my life and it did nothing to help me to overcome my faults.

    Actually I'm just fed up with all the negativity about her or anyone else. I am choosing to change my life for the positive.
  • Beezil
    Beezil Posts: 1,677 Member
    I think people really need to stop looking for a scapegoat every time something bad happens because of something stupid they did, and actually have some personal accountability. This is why children grow up feeling like they're automatically entitled to the world and can do no wrong. This is why people get fat, fatter, and suddenly they're almost 1000 pounds, bedridden, and days away from death.

    The point is, it's not TV's fault you got fat and sick. It's not the internet's fault. It's not McDonald's fault. It's not the government's fault. It's not the food's fault either. It's yours.
  • Beezil
    Beezil Posts: 1,677 Member
    So did we all land here on MFP because we ate Paula Deen's food for years being led by the bright lights and being mindwashed by her?

    Well I didn't I ended up here because of years of unhealthy eating way before Paula Deen ever came on the scene. My finger securely points at me for endangering my health and well-being.

    If I was to adopt every celebrities life-style that I have watched over the years, I would be a drunken sot, snorting lines of cocaine but I would be WINNING! Thank you Charlie Sheen for that. I love Charlie Sheen's show (2 and half Men), so should I have grabbed a bunch of ho's and took every drug possible because I was a follower of a TV show? I think not. So lets see, the similiarites, Paula Deen hosts a TV show and while I make some of her less outrageous dishes, she is in no way responsible for the body that I am now living in. I AM! I snuck thru the drive-thru and had a 800 calorie Whopper and then came home and fixed a full 5-course meal and ate like I hadnt eaten in days.

    And what are we doing, we of all people are passing judgement on someone else's lifestyle when we have had to endure that for our entire life. I would think we would be more sympathetic. If not, let's drag every celebrity out here and see if we have been influenced by them to do things such as drinking, smoking, doping, commiting suicide, etc. I'm sorry but I feel sympathy for her and her family. Yes she knew what she was doing was endangering her health and yes I know what I did endangered mine. I'm taking responsibility for my actions and she'll have to do the same. I just cant comprehend a group of fat now or once fat group such as ourselves judging another's actions. I've been judged all my life and it did nothing to help me to overcome my faults.

    Actually I'm just fed up with all the negativity about her or anyone else. I am choosing to change my life for the positive.

    AMEN!
  • sms1986
    sms1986 Posts: 113 Member
    Looking at one or two videos on YouTube, a lot of the food she makes looks (and probably tastes), in my opinion, disgusting, and it's obviously not food that anyone should be eating too often. However, she's nowhere near as bad as some of the real causes of the United States' obesity epidemic, such as McDonalds or Burger King.
  • Rilke
    Rilke Posts: 1,201 Member
    This Video Below is hilarious - but also a must see. Just an example of why people are upset about this Paula Deen issue. For three years she knew she had this disease yet promoted "bad habits" like this. She was doing herself an injustice by eating this type of food. Its sad, because diabetes is a very serious issue. When you can take a big bite out of a doughnut egg bacon burger its like your saying "F" my life....

    #justonegirlsopinion


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1PsDyhNFBI

    (didn't read the article, this maybe included already)

    That video is fantastic.
  • sunkisses
    sunkisses Posts: 2,365 Member
    I thought Walmart represented everything that is wrong with America. *confused face*
  • angelswank
    angelswank Posts: 48 Member
    Shocked or whatever? .... because she is now taking money to become a spokesperson for treatment of a devastating disease that is caused by behaviors she's been promoting. Shocked or whatever? .... because she has led people over a cliff for years and now she gets to get paid for what? Shocked or whatever? .... because "moderation" when it comes to her style of cooking is a cynical joke.


    This is just as bad as suing a fast food place because you are fat. She didn't make anyone cook her food just as mcdonalds doesn't make you eat their burgers. what you put in your mouth is YOUR decision , how you cook your food is YOUR decision not anyone else's. You can take any recipe and make it more healthy, it may not taste as delicious but it is your choice how you cook it. It's her life and her decision what she does with it.
  • lodro
    lodro Posts: 982 Member
    let's bring out our favorite examples, the French. They eat butter, cream, animal fats, you name it, but they don't have anywhere near our levels of obesity and heart disease. Why? Because they eat small portions.

    I think the point is that she is obese and has health problems, so there is a big difference between her and the French.

    Also, this food myth is not based on any real information about how people eat in France. Dieting and diet foods are favorite topics in France. Go to an average supermarket or convenience store in Paris and you'll see that the French diet isn't laden in butter, cream and animal fats. However, US portion sizes are invariably 2x those in Europe.
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