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My husband got a medium drink from burger king and I thought they gave him a extra large. It was way to big. Sizes have definilty changed for the worse. Portion sizes are out of control. I rarely eat at restaurants I would rather cook. But when I do I normally could get 3 meals out of the one plate! Like at olive garden or somewhere, who the hell can eat a entire plate of pasta there, I get through like 25% and feel full. At home I use smaller plates so then the plate still appears super full but its really not.

I went out with a friend a few weeks ago and ordered a chicken salad dinner... the salad could have fed 4 people!!!

Its so wasteful and unhealthy. Even though since I always take a ton of left overs home for lunch/dinner the next day I guess as long as you have self control and know what a healthy amount of food to consume is it works in your favor c:

I live in Miami and have a friend who recently went to Michigan to meet some friends she met online. In Miami (our normal lives), I am "fat" and my friend is "normal", at least for Miami. (there is a 50 lbs difference between us, at least) She told me that when she got to Michigan, she would be considered "skinny" and I would be "normal" - compared to most other people encountered everywhere they went. I don't know about sizes, but I wonder if they are the same all over the country.

Here's a neat article that NPR did about spandex, and the opinions about whether or not it allows obese/overweight people to keep being obese (since it's added to a lot of clothes these days): http://www.npr.org/2011/12/11/143003539/spandex-has-stretched-with-u-s-waistlines?ft=1&f=1001

Just some food for thought.

I mean, sizes fluctuate with styles and brands of clothes. I feel like society still "fat shames" people, but they make bigger clothing sizes easily available. However, I agree with some of the opinions on that article. People still try to "fat shame" others in this country, but more and more people are okay with being overweight. I don't want to be judgmental about how these girls look since it's their choice and if they want to own their weight then more power to them. I think clothing sizes have changed because companies realize that the every day person IS heavier due to the way we currently live. I've come to accept that even at my goal weight, I will wear a size 12 dress/pants. I'm just busty and have big hips, and I'm totally okay with that.

Portion sizes are definitely out of control at restaurants. I got a combo meal at Taco Bell a few weeks ago to treat myself/I was being lazy, and the drink size was 32 oz. Like I'm really going to drink 32 oz of empty calories and sugar? I drank about a quarter of it and threw the rest out. It's nuts that people think they HAVE to eat everything that is put in front of them.

I think that we are all going to he!! in a happy meal box. lol--jk, I remember when I was a teen and worked at McDonalds. We were transitioning to the "larger" sizing (which transitioned again a few years later). People were shocked to get that much fries and drink, but then became used to it and always ordered up. As portion sizes get bigger, people will get bigger. I try to order half-size portions if they have them or will order off the senior menu. I also have the server box up half the meal before it is brought to my table so I only have what I can eat in front of me. Some servers get a little grumpy, but most are pretty good and the places I go to all know that I tip well so I don't get many issues.

I think sizes in the states are bigger than in Canada. Last time I was shopping down there, I was buying size 4, when here I wore 6/8

This is what I'm thinking, too. A size 4 here is still quite small. I'm not sure about US sizing.. but I don't think "vanity sizing" is so much a thing up here.

I think sizes in the states are bigger than in Canada. Last time I was shopping down there, I was buying size 4, when here I wore 6/8

I found the same thing as well. The clothes are definitely bigger down there

No, if anything I actually think it's the opposite. These days models wearing a size 8 are "plus size" models - but a size 8 is below the national average! It's ridiculous. No wonder people are so insecure about weight and appearance.

totally agree! i think there was a stage, say 10 yrs ago, when ppl weren't aware of the growing obesity problem, but now is a different story!

this is the most interesting post i think ive read since joining(2 days ago its so screwed up that the world has accepted more and bigger food and the clothes are sized to make people feel better about being bigger, yet bigger people are hated just as much as ever. and i think i read that models are getting smaller? this **** makes no sense!

In high school,, I weighed 116# and wore a size 9-11 or 10-12. I am now 172# and wear a size 12. My waist is a full 12" bigger than it was then. Vanity sizing? You betcha!

I don't think there is a more negative attitude toward obese people today than there was in the past. I think obese people were always looked at in a negative manner. I do think that what we consider obese today is much bigger than what was considered obese in the past because far more of us, as a nation, are overweight. I think you actually see this the most with grade school aged children as as, when I was in school decades ago, there were very few overweight children. Now it's commonplace. I think that's rather sad, to be honest.

And people are getting bigger on average. No doubt about it. The Washington State Ferry system just changed the capacity limits (# of people) who can be on the ferry at maximum to a much lower number because of this. For example, the ferry Yakima's old passenger limit was 2,000 people. Now, it's 1,783. (more info at http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017058922_apwaobesityferries.html)

Clothes have definitely changed in sizing - it's called 'vanity sizing' - I think there's at least a 1-2 size difference from the 80's.

I think the media is less tolerant of weight issues and obesity, as the previous poster mentions, but clothing manufacturers are well aware of the trend toward increased weight and obesity, and they just care about selling clothes, so they've changed the sizes so people don't freak out about what size they really are, and keep buying clothes...

I'd have to disagree, at least with my personal experience. I used to be a 2XL in female tops, 24/26 in bottoms and I stayed within the same weight frame for all the years I was in high school. Then one day I was a 4XL and a size 30 in bottoms. The same company that made my 2XL tops that still fit were now telling me I was 2 sizes bigger. The strange thing is, even with the size I am, I can wear a man's XL or even Large yet in women's clothes I'm much bigger when there isn't a difference except maybe in cut which takes more material from the arms and middle with women.

In fact I don't even shop in the women's section anymore unless it's for things like intimates or when I need something for a wedding.