BANGING. HEAD. AGAINST. WALL.

graysmom2005
graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
edited November 9 in Health and Weight Loss
I have absolutely, positively, no idea what is going on. Doing the "Olivia Method" by using my green number as my deficit. Before Christmas I was trying to keep my green number at around 1000. Got down to 152.2.

Gained over vacation/holidays. Was up to 158 when I got home...but started my workout/teaching back to my old eating....weight quickly went down to 155 and then stopped...frustrating.

This morning, I hopped on and it's 159!! That's almost a 10 pound GAIN from when I started MFP. I log EVERYTHING. And I workout 6 days a week, usually 2 times a day with my job. Can someone see anything in my diary that I'm missing? This is exactly what I was doing before! I'm just gutted. Almost 160????????? When I was down to 140's/low 150's. I could just scream with frustration. Been to Dr and there are no issues.
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  • madamchoochoo
    madamchoochoo Posts: 36 Member
    Hi,

    This is me - i put on 10lbs over Xmas and have lost 3, im eating well and training hard too and its not shifting... i feel your pain!
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    There was that frustration....I tried to ignore it...but then a massive gain out of no where? Not TOM related or anything either. I'm just stumped and MAD.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    How do you mesure your exercise calories? You look quite small and I have a hard time believing youcould burn 1200 calories a day exercising
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    I have a HRM with a chest strap. I teach group ex...and usually two classes a day...plus racing around with the dog. The second I stop my workout I turn my HRM off. Like today I teach two spin classes and a 30 minute core class. Etc.
  • badgerbadger1
    badgerbadger1 Posts: 954 Member
    Agree, I'm down to 148 now and in order to burn that many cals through exercise per day, I'd have to pretty much run a marathon daily. You might be overestimating. What kind of exercise are you doing?

    Also eat less processed or dessert foods, it does make a difference.
  • beckyinma
    beckyinma Posts: 1,433 Member
    maybe you need to adjust your lifestyle listing on MFP to more active?
  • IS your body toning? Maybe your just gaining more muscle then fat now. :smile:
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    The calories are coming straight from my HRM. I'm a fitness teacher....so Monday I teach spin and Bodypump. Tuesday I teach a bootcamp class and then spin. Wednesday I teach an hour spin, Thursday I teach two spin and one core, Saturday a hour spin, and Sunday Bodypump. I'll then walk the dog with my monitor on and burn between 100-200. Add them all together and some days are that high.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    Without considering the scale....how are your cloths fitting?
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    IS your body toning? Maybe your just gaining more muscle then fat now. :smile:
    I didn't gain 4 pounds of muscle. I haven't added more strength training. that would be nice though. Haha
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    Without considering the scale....how are your cloths fitting?
    They fit ABOUT the same. A little snugger in the waist I thought. :-/
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    maybe you need to adjust your lifestyle listing on MFP to more active?
    When I'm NOT teaching, I'm not doing anything as crazy as a nurse or salesman, I'll be cleaning etc or on the computer so not moving around a TON. So I kept it at sedentary, but add the exercise cals.
  • morkiemama
    morkiemama Posts: 894 Member
    Are your settings to maintain or lose? If it is lose, then you already have a calorie deficit built in. Putting another 1,000 "green" deficit on top of that might be causing your body to hang on to weight?
  • OkieinMinny
    OkieinMinny Posts: 834 Member
    Believe me I am NO expert - but I looked through your diary- just a few days - and it looks like you could maybe up the protein - maybe take some of the processed stuff out and replace with more lean meat and veggies, Im a bust mom also so I know its not always that easy - but with you teaching Body Pump and breaking your muscles down like that I think they need to be fed more, try for a week to up the protein and see what happens .., just a thought
  • leomom72
    leomom72 Posts: 1,797 Member
    bump
  • morkiemama
    morkiemama Posts: 894 Member
    maybe you need to adjust your lifestyle listing on MFP to more active?
    When I'm NOT teaching, I'm not doing anything as crazy as a nurse or salesman, I'll be cleaning etc or on the computer so not moving around a TON. So I kept it at sedentary, but add the exercise cals.

    This might be your problem too. You should set it to a higher activity level because you are a naturally fit and moving person. You probably burn more just sitting around than a normal person.

    There was a discussion about it the other day here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/469417-initial-calorie-calculator-can-be-dangerous
  • sweetsarahj
    sweetsarahj Posts: 701 Member
    I took a quick look at your diary and frankly you need to eat less processed food. It's full of preservatives and sodium and just because it's 100 cals (or whatever) doesn't mean it's good for you. Less sugar, less sodium, less carbs, more veggies.
  • IS your body toning? Maybe your just gaining more muscle then fat now. :smile:

    Agree. Muscle weighs more than fat. :wink: Just don't give up! It's fustrating but keep your chin up :flowerforyou:
  • SteveTries
    SteveTries Posts: 723 Member
    The calories are coming straight from my HRM.

    The heart rate monitor is measuring your BPM and then running a software algorithm to calculate caloric expenditure. That algorithm could be some way off reality. There are so many different algorithms and they all assume some theoretical average person - plus even if it is accurately recording say a 500 calorie burn in a given exercise hour, is it deducting the 100 calories you would have burnt lying on the couch for that hour?

    I'd trust a good HRM to give me accurate BPM, but not caloric burn. there is no way it can know.
  • MsPetuniaPig
    MsPetuniaPig Posts: 74 Member
    I looked at your diary. I noticed the same thing the other person did. Try eliminating some sugar and flour. These things usually build up right in the midsection too. Adding protein will help you move the right direction. Maybe switch some of the processed items (like the choc covered pretzels) to something low carb.

    Just a thought.
  • SteveTries
    SteveTries Posts: 723 Member
    Your caloric intake is higher than mine. I am a 6 foot 2 male of large build. I workout less than you but still do 2 intense classes of Thai Boxing a week and run 3 times for 30 mins.

    Try reducing your calories and see what happens. You can always increase after a week if it doesn't help
  • I would take measurements to see where you body is at, but looking through your food diary I would also say it looks like you are not eating enough (as ironic as that is). Since you are using your HRM and logging all your food, it looks like you are starving your body with all the workouts you get in. But what is your activity setting that is giving you your recommended calorie intake?
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Personally, I think the 1000 calorie deficit is way way way too high. You don't have enough body fat to support a 2# a week loss. Generally, only people with 75# or more to lose can handle a 1000 calorie deficit.

    I did best with a 200-250 calorie deficit. Weight came off slower - about a half pound a week on average - but it was pretty much all from fat so it looked like more. Check the photos here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/474504-seven-months-of-admittedly-inconsistent-strength-training I'm close to the same weight in both photos. I've been eating at maintenance level for the past four months.
  • mojomarie
    mojomarie Posts: 43 Member
    Hey! First of all, I am in awe of your physical activities!!:) BUMP!:) Second of all, (no disrespect to anyone, please:)) But MUSCLE DOES NOT, nor will it EVER weigh more than FAT!:)) A POUND IS A POUND IS A POUND:)) Fat just may take up more room:)

    That being said, I've been told that muscles WILL hold WATER. How often do you take a few days off in a row? I'm not as fit as you so this is just a shot in the dark but I DO work out 50 minutes cardio and alternating upper/ lower body weights. (high reps). I've found that if I slack off for a day or two and focus on my caloric intake, then the numbers go down. Just a thought. Not sure why your clothes are snug, though. Washing in hot water?:happy:

    Best to you!
  • keiraev
    keiraev Posts: 695 Member
    maybe you need to adjust your lifestyle listing on MFP to more active?

    That's what I was thinking- change your activity levels to "Very Active" and eat those calories regardless of exercise, and use that as your deficit rather than eating back calories. If you are already doing this & I've misunderstood then I apologize!
  • jenniebean1680
    jenniebean1680 Posts: 350 Member
    Are your settings to maintain or lose? If it is lose, then you already have a calorie deficit built in. Putting another 1,000 "green" deficit on top of that might be causing your body to hang on to weight?
    I think you are not eating enough. Don't listen to anyone telling you to eat LESS. MFP puts you at a deficit already, even if your 'green' number is 0. You will lose if you hold it there. That's why they give us the net.

    I am a spinning instructor, too, and I don't doubt that you are burning what you are.

    I'm working w/ a nutritionist because I was eating 1400 cals and not losing the 10lbs I had gained since my mom passed away in June. Turns out, I stalled my metabolism by eating at too much of a deficit for a long time. She told me that if I'm not netting AT LEAST 1350 cals/day, then I'm creating too much of a deficit and my body will continue holding onto the fat. I cried, I argued, and finally gave up and did what she told me to do. I gradually increased, and after an initial gain (of course my body will at first see the healthy increase as a surplus and hoard it), I finally started losing again. It was a leap of faith, and it worked.

    After years of restriction my body just wasn't letting me lose anymore, mostly because of my activity level being so high.

    Think about it, and at the very least, ignore ANYone who tells you to eat less than you're already eating. That will be counterproductive at best and dangerous at worst.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    Are your settings to maintain or lose? If it is lose, then you already have a calorie deficit built in. Putting another 1,000 "green" deficit on top of that might be causing your body to hang on to weight?
    I think you are not eating enough. Don't listen to anyone telling you to eat LESS. MFP puts you at a deficit already, even if your 'green' number is 0. You will lose if you hold it there. That's why they give us the net.

    I am a spinning instructor, too, and I don't doubt that you are burning what you are.

    I'm working w/ a nutritionist because I was eating 1400 cals and not losing the 10lbs I had gained since my mom passed away in June. Turns out, I stalled my metabolism by eating at too much of a deficit for a long time. She told me that if I'm not netting AT LEAST 1350 cals/day, then I'm creating too much of a deficit and my body will continue holding onto the fat. I cried, I argued, and finally gave up and did what she told me to do. I gradually increased, and after an initial gain (of course my body will at first see the healthy increase as a surplus and hoard it), I finally started losing again. It was a leap of faith, and it worked.

    After years of restriction my body just wasn't letting me lose anymore, mostly because of my activity level being so high.

    Think about it, and at the very least, ignore ANYone who tells you to eat less than you're already eating. That will be counterproductive at best and dangerous at worst.

    This sounds like some great info! :)
  • badgerbadger1
    badgerbadger1 Posts: 954 Member
    Are your settings to maintain or lose? If it is lose, then you already have a calorie deficit built in. Putting another 1,000 "green" deficit on top of that might be causing your body to hang on to weight?
    I think you are not eating enough. Don't listen to anyone telling you to eat LESS. MFP puts you at a deficit already, even if your 'green' number is 0. You will lose if you hold it there. That's why they give us the net.

    I am a spinning instructor, too, and I don't doubt that you are burning what you are.

    I'm working w/ a nutritionist because I was eating 1400 cals and not losing the 10lbs I had gained since my mom passed away in June. Turns out, I stalled my metabolism by eating at too much of a deficit for a long time. She told me that if I'm not netting AT LEAST 1350 cals/day, then I'm creating too much of a deficit and my body will continue holding onto the fat. I cried, I argued, and finally gave up and did what she told me to do. I gradually increased, and after an initial gain (of course my body will at first see the healthy increase as a surplus and hoard it), I finally started losing again. It was a leap of faith, and it worked.

    After years of restriction my body just wasn't letting me lose anymore, mostly because of my activity level being so high.

    Think about it, and at the very least, ignore ANYone who tells you to eat less than you're already eating. That will be counterproductive at best and dangerous at worst.

    She's using Olivia's method for tracking calories which does not have a calorie deficit built in. Calories are set to maintenance and you have to eat at a deficit between 250-1000 depending on how much you aim to lose in a week.
  • QueenJayJay
    QueenJayJay Posts: 1,079 Member
    Please don't hurt your pretty little head.

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  • mhotch
    mhotch Posts: 901 Member
    The only criticism that I have that has not been stated in above posts, is your water intake. I only went back 2 days {yes I am lazy!}, but your water was at 0 both days. if you just forgot to track then ignore this post.

    When your body is in a dehydrated state, the metabolism drops to preserve the fluid in the vital organs. So you are battling against a lower metabolism. Make sure you get adequate hydration every day.
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