BANGING. HEAD. AGAINST. WALL.

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  • SteveTries
    SteveTries Posts: 723 Member
    Think about it, and at the very least, ignore ANYone who tells you to eat less than you're already eating. That will be counterproductive at best and dangerous at worst.

    Despite the popular opinion on these forums I've seen no science whatsoever to support this assertion. Only third hand anecdotal reports. It's like a religion now where people get very offended if you dare suggest it isn't so........

    Consider all suggestions and go with what feels right to you. If it doesn't work try something else.
  • Articeluvsmemphis
    Articeluvsmemphis Posts: 1,987 Member
    IS your body toning? Maybe your just gaining more muscle then fat now. :smile:

    Agree. Muscle weighs more than fat. :wink: Just don't give up! It's fustrating but keep your chin up :flowerforyou:

    Muscle weighs the same as fat. that's the which weighs more, 10pounds of feathers or a 10pound book. Muscle is denser which means it takes up less space. You cannot gain muscle on a calorie deficit, and if you hold onto anything after a strength session it is water retention usually with soreness and will go away.
  • cydonian
    cydonian Posts: 361 Member
    Everyone puts on a bit of weight over the winter time... I'm currently trying to maintain as I always gain 5 lbs in November and it comes off on it's own in March/April. Keep at it and you'll swing back around!
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    Hey! First of all, I am in awe of your physical activities!!:) BUMP!:) Second of all, (no disrespect to anyone, please:)) But MUSCLE DOES NOT, nor will it EVER weigh more than FAT!:)) A POUND IS A POUND IS A POUND:)) Fat just may take up more room:)

    That being said, I've been told that muscles WILL hold WATER. How often do you take a few days off in a row? I'm not as fit as you so this is just a shot in the dark but I DO work out 50 minutes cardio and alternating upper/ lower body weights. (high reps). I've found that if I slack off for a day or two and focus on my caloric intake, then the numbers go down. Just a thought. Not sure why your clothes are snug, though. Washing in hot water?:happy:

    Best to you!
    It's a big downfall. I only have one day off a week from working out, so I'm basically always sore. LOL. The things like the pretzels are super rare. I wish I could take people back a couple of weeks to my usual food routine....but usually lunch is always a massive salad with lean protein and dinner is an entire bag of steamed veggies and a lean protein.
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    The only criticism that I have that has not been stated in above posts, is your water intake. I only went back 2 days {yes I am lazy!}, but your water was at 0 both days. if you just forgot to track then ignore this post.

    When your body is in a dehydrated state, the metabolism drops to preserve the fluid in the vital organs. So you are battling against a lower metabolism. Make sure you get adequate hydration every day.
    Hey! It's ok! I don't write my water down, but I drink probably at least 4 32oz bottles of water every day...if not more. :-)
  • RachVR6
    RachVR6 Posts: 3,688 Member
    Personally, I think the 1000 calorie deficit is way way way too high. You don't have enough body fat to support a 2# a week loss. Generally, only people with 75# or more to lose can handle a 1000 calorie deficit.

    I did best with a 200-250 calorie deficit. Weight came off slower - about a half pound a week on average - but it was pretty much all from fat so it looked like more. Check the photos here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/474504-seven-months-of-admittedly-inconsistent-strength-training I'm close to the same weight in both photos. I've been eating at maintenance level for the past four months.

    I agree with this. And like others said maybe up your protein. I'd consider tracking your sugar intake as well. You do still have a lot of processed foods and things like the PB, skinny cow, puddings, etc, even though they fit in your calories, might be partially to blame. :flowerforyou:
  • MyaPapaya75
    MyaPapaya75 Posts: 3,143 Member
    after looking at a few days on your diary ....i personally think your sodium is high and you probably have tendency to retain fluids....your sodium number is usually above or right around recomended daily...perhaps thats just to much sodium for you....also dont increase sodium intake just because u earn more calories per working out...
  • fbuschur
    fbuschur Posts: 57
    I'm with the people that say you may want to trust your heart rate monitor less. Mine WAY overestimates the amount of calories I burn.....
  • bmarie82
    bmarie82 Posts: 3
    I have the same issue, I rarely loose weight and I will inexplicably gain 5 lbs overnight. I solved this problem by just not weighing myself; it's not a very elegant solution. There could be a few issues, maybe don't weigh in daily, it sounds like it's frustrating you. Try maybe like at the end of the week or something (I usu behave better during the week so I NEVER weighed in on Sundays or Mondays). It might be a water weight thing. If you decide to keep weighing in daily I'd suggest maybe trying the same time (roughly) every day for like a week then the next week try a totally different slot but the same time; track your numbers and see if anything pops out. Again I typically weigh more when I wake up then when I get home from work. Third is the inelegant solution I mentioned above, just don't worry about the numbers. I'm about to sound like a gross hippy but just diet and work out because it makes you feel good, not to loose lbs.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,454 Member
    800, 700, 500, 700, Calories LEFT at the end of the day.

    Duh. Eat your dang exercise cals, woman. You don't have enough body fat to continue to undereat like this! I don't think this is what "Olivia" (who is just a member here....) meant.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/61706-guide-to-calorie-deficits
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/175241-a-personal-view-on-exercise-cals-and-underfeeding

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/153704-myth-or-fact-simple-math-3500-calories-one-pound-eat
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/12250-1000-calorie-deficit-not-for-people-with-healthy-bmi
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    I'm with the people that say you may want to trust your heart rate monitor less. Mine WAY overestimates the amount of calories I burn.....
    This makes me want to curl up in a ball. LOL. If I don't trust my HRM then how on earth do I get my MFP math right?
  • danigirl1011
    danigirl1011 Posts: 314 Member
    Hmmm...you do a ton of exercise. That's great! I am not sure about your calorie count though. Even when i do doubles i stay around 1600 for calories (granted cycling is a beast). I try to stay away from the 100 calorie packs of cookies, etc and do fruits and veggies instead. That's what i would change for sure.
  • drog2323
    drog2323 Posts: 1,343 Member
    Your caloric intake is higher than mine. I am a 6 foot 2 male of large build. I workout less than you but still do 2 intense classes of Thai Boxing a week and run 3 times for 30 mins.

    Try reducing your calories and see what happens. You can always increase after a week if it doesn't help

    I am no expert, but would agree. I am similar height to this person and I eat around 1900-2300 cals a day. I would say you are eating too many calories overall and also your carbs seem a little high. maybe cut back a little on starchy carbs and overall cals, and see how it goes. even cutting to 1650 cals might make a nice different.

    good luck. I know it's frustrating!
  • flyingwrite
    flyingwrite Posts: 264
    I'm going to jump on the WATER train. Your muscles will retain water and if your kidneys don't have enough, your liver stops burning fat to help the kidneys out so you'll just retain, retain, retain. Plus if your sodium stays up around 2700 every day, you're also going to retain which will make you feel bloated ALL the time.
  • fbuschur
    fbuschur Posts: 57
    I know, it frustrates me too, and maybe you have a nicer HRM than me... I am just trying to hit 1500 calories, give or take a day, and not add in my exercise calories. But I don't do 2 spin classes a day - I usually run 15-20 miles a week, commute 22 miles on my bike once or twice a week and lift for an hour twice a week so I am not hitting the same level of activity that you are.

    I will say that I am in the same boat as you, I was maintaining about 145 going into the holidays, and have come out and been stuck back at about 155 for the last month... So I feel your pain....
  • downsizinghoss
    downsizinghoss Posts: 1,035 Member
    Don't get too hung up on week to week weight. Try both, more and less, calories. See what works and keep your metabolism from adjusting to a particular level. Based on the numbers you listed and how much you exercise I would increase by 2-500 calories for a week or two and then if that isn't working bring it back down. I move mine up and down. I am running bigger deficits this week but I broke my last plateau by increasing them for 2 weeks.

    It sucks if you try something and you gain a few pounds, but there is no reason not to experiment. Next weeks weight isn't as important as next years.
  • jamie31
    jamie31 Posts: 568 Member
    There was that frustration....I tried to ignore it...but then a massive gain out of no where? Not TOM related or anything either. I'm just stumped and MAD.
    This happened to me a little over a year ago. I gained 10lbs in about 2 weeks without changing a damn thing. I unfortuntely have not been able to lose that 10lbs on the past year. Sorry I dont have an answer as to why but just wanted to let you know that the same thing happened to me. I tried everything from low carb, to calorie cycling, to carb cycling you name it i tried it. Nothing worked.
  • Smuterella
    Smuterella Posts: 1,623 Member
    Jeebus. Muscle does weight more than fat, because when this phrase is mentioned we are talking about weight by volume. A cubic foot, for example, of muscle is denser than a cubic foot of fat and thus, heavier.
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    Your caloric intake is higher than mine. I am a 6 foot 2 male of large build. I workout less than you but still do 2 intense classes of Thai Boxing a week and run 3 times for 30 mins.

    Try reducing your calories and see what happens. You can always increase after a week if it doesn't help

    I am no expert, but would agree. I am similar height to this person and I eat around 1900-2300 cals a day. I would say you are eating too many calories overall and also your carbs seem a little high. maybe cut back a little on starchy carbs and overall cals, and see how it goes. even cutting to 1650 cals might make a nice different.

    good luck. I know it's frustrating!
    Well, other than I would DIE eating that little with the amount I work out. LOL....I was 152 eating this exact same amount. That's why I'm confused. I gained weight with my same regime. I have to eat around 1800-2100 most days or my net would be tiny. ;-)
  • drog2323
    drog2323 Posts: 1,343 Member
    Your caloric intake is higher than mine. I am a 6 foot 2 male of large build. I workout less than you but still do 2 intense classes of Thai Boxing a week and run 3 times for 30 mins.

    Try reducing your calories and see what happens. You can always increase after a week if it doesn't help

    I am no expert, but would agree. I am similar height to this person and I eat around 1900-2300 cals a day. I would say you are eating too many calories overall and also your carbs seem a little high. maybe cut back a little on starchy carbs and overall cals, and see how it goes. even cutting to 1650 cals might make a nice different.

    good luck. I know it's frustrating!
    Well, other than I would DIE eating that little with the amount I work out. LOL....I was 152 eating this exact same amount. That's why I'm confused. I gained weight with my same regime. I have to eat around 1800-2100 most days or my net would be tiny. ;-)

    right, but I think what others are saying - is maybe the HRM isn't giving you a perfect calorie burn #. perhaps it's off by 20%. or 30%. obviously, something is going on, that's why I am saying play around with the cal number. so perhaps the actual net isn't what you think it is. (according to your HRM and MFP etc).

    Also, the carbs. I am definitely no expert - so this is just my humble opinion. My carbs are typically around 165-195 per day. I've seen some of yours as high as 270. This might be nothing - but just something I noticed.

    if everything else is the same - maybe look back at old food diaries and see what's changed. maybe less carbs before? or less processed foods?

    hope it works out!
  • mom2my5sons
    mom2my5sons Posts: 28 Member
    just a thought.......maybe you don't really need to lose more weight, and your body is wisely keeping you where you are. You look great, and you're very healthy/fit , so I would suggest eat the best you can and don't worry about the numbers too much. Easier said than done, I know :)
  • SteveTries
    SteveTries Posts: 723 Member
    I'm with the people that say you may want to trust your heart rate monitor less. Mine WAY overestimates the amount of calories I burn.....
    This makes me want to curl up in a ball. LOL. If I don't trust my HRM then how on earth do I get my MFP math right?

    Well, other than I would DIE eating that little with the amount I work out

    I revisited this thread today to see what you decided to do, and apologies is this seems harsh, but reading your replies it seems like you don't want to change anything that you are doing, but you do want a different result.

    I don't see how that is going to happen! :wink:


    You can get your math right through observation and recording far better than your HRM's guess.
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