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It's a "to each their own" issue. I eat dairy and meat and I don't feel bad about it, I like dairy and meat but it's all in moderation I suppose. I couldn't stick to a vegan or vegetarian diet, but that's just me. I just try to be a lot more careful about the dairy and meat I do eat. For example skim milk and also I've introduced almond milk into my diet, I have switched sides and have gone from flavored yogurt to plain greek, I eat turkey burgers and not hamburgers, if I do need hamburger for something it's usually 93/7 or higher and I don't mind paying more for it. I have been using more ground turkey as well in recipes.

Also, I have not read this book.

I read this book too. It was really interesting but didn't make me stop eating meat. It did, however, make me switch to organic milk and foods as much as possible.

I think they are full of baloney. I got it, because it made me smile to look at the title. But they REALLY don't know what they are talking about.

I think dairy and meat are great sources of food that are both delicious and induce happiness. I like to eat massive piles of meat.

This. I also like to drink massive quantities of milk.

I eat a meat, but I don't eat beef or pork for religious reasons, and I drink milk on most days.
There are days I really don't feel like eating meat and I tend to OD on protein powder on those days, but it keeps me full and happy.
Keep not I am trying to maintain my current muscle mass while reducing my body fat % so eating less protein would be detrimental for my goals. :flowerforyou:

It depends on what you are trying to do, if reducing weight regardless of it being muscle mass or fat is your goal then yes getting rid of most protein and dairy in the diet will be effective. However decreasing muscle mass more than fat will lead to difficulties in maintaining that weight loss as muscle burns cals at rest helping the transition in to a normal life routine VS fat that does not burn cals at all leaving the person struggling to eat normally without gaining the weight back.
Also higher composition of body fat will create a body that is larger in size than a body that weighs the same with a lower body fat %.
Take me for example;my best friend and I weight the same and are the same height 5'4" and roughly 175 lbs. I wear a size 8 US jean comfortably and she wears a size 14 to 16 US jean.
It all depends on what you want to achieve luv :flowerforyou:

I don't eat meat, but I do eat organic dairy and eggs. The key is moderation, and if the chemicals and the way the animals were raised bother you/impact on the environment, only buy organic, free range, and hormone free.

Overall I think if you choose to eat meat, stick to chicken, turkey, occasional fish, and make the beef and pork more of a special occasion type of thing

To each his own. We can live healthy and happy on a vegan, vegetarian, and a "normal" omnivore diet. How lucky we are to have the choice!

I haven't read it, but I dont eat much meat or dairy. I have some lactose intolerance that makes dairy unpleasant (not yogurt and cheese, but milk and ice cream). Meat tends to sit really heavy on my stomach. I eat a lot of chicken, eggs, and fish, but try to get most of my protein from other sources. Only because it seems to make my digestion work better.

It's a book written by vegans trying to convince anyone reading it to switch to a vegan lifestyle. While some of their information is good, you need to read it with that in mind.

It's a book written by vegans trying to convince anyone reading it to switch to a vegan lifestyle. While some of their information is good, you need to read it with that in mind.

I would agree

I don't eat meat, but I do eat organic dairy and eggs. The key is moderation, and if the chemicals and the way the animals were raised bother you/impact on the environment, only buy organic, free range, and hormone free.

Overall I think if you choose to eat meat, stick to chicken, turkey, occasional fish, and make the beef and pork more of a special occasion type of thing

To each his own. We can live healthy and happy on a vegan, vegetarian, and a "normal" omnivore diet. How lucky we are to have the choice!

"Free Range" doesn't exist. It just makes people feel better about eating animal products.

http://www.peacefulprairie.org/freerange1.html
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/free-range-organic-meat-myth.aspx
http://www.chooseveg.com/free-range.asp

'free range' chickens STILL suffer through:

-Overcrowded living conditions
-Denial of veterinary care
-Abusive handling
-Transport through all weather extremes
-Painful mutilations (debeaking, castration, dehorning, etc)
-Unproductive, "spent" or "by-product" animals, such as male chicks of the egg-laying industry, are killed by methods such as --suffocation and crushing.
-Violent slaughter

The same as ones who are not free range. They make those products more expensive, So they are making a higher profit off of you because it gives consumers the false sense that they are being humane by choosing to buy them instead of the ones without the free range sticker. The only way to truly be humane is to not use animal products at all. To each their own, but you should be informed of the truth. I'm not trying to start some vegan/meat-eater debate. Just stating facts. c: