Sorry but I need help!

stuey39
stuey39 Posts: 159
edited November 2024 in Chit-Chat
Sorry if this is depressing and horrible., but i'm hurting!

I volunteer at a support group for people suffering with depresssion and have been there myself.

However, a young lad( 16 years of age) took his own life earlier today! We were quite close and both supported our beloved Welsh Rugby Team. I really can't understand why, he was on his way back!

Please someone explain why!

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  • krazyforyou
    krazyforyou Posts: 1,428 Member
    Stuey I feel for you, however we never know just how bad things are for others. Its difficult when you form a bond with someone and lose the fight. We have to try and seperate the job and the person. Try to remember anything positive about him and try to believe you had a positive connection no matter what the outcome. You simply have to let it go.
  • clydethecat
    clydethecat Posts: 1,087 Member
    i cant explain why... it was his decision, a poor decision, but still his. i've been suicidal, its what finally got me treatment. all i can say is, when i would try, i wasnt thinking of anyone else. to take your life is the most selfish thing someone can do.

    his pain must have been horrible. sometimes its hard to see the light when its so very dark.. you did a world of good for him, simply by being a voice in the wilderness and a shoulder to cry on.

    i'm so sorry for your loss, i absolutely empathize with you. please dont beat yourself up, there is nothing you could have done. its sad, its very sad to lose someone close to us.

    be proud of how you touched his life. be sad for what a waste for him to take his life. and be careful that you do not fall into a depression..

    i'm so sorry about this, i know how hard this can be..
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    omg I really didn't think I would have a response to this! truth be known, yes I have beeen there myself and that is how I came to work there!!
    I tried this way out because I felt lke a failiure! Luckily I survived and got myself together!
    Because of what I went through I studied 'depression' and helped out. but this young man slipped by me, I really am devastated and wonderin where to turn now!
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    i cant explain why... it was his decision, a poor decision, but still his. i've been suicidal, its what finally got me treatment. all i can say is, when i would try, i wasnt thinking of anyone else. to take your life is the most selfish thing someone can do.

    his pain must have been horrible. sometimes its hard to see the light when its so very dark.. you did a world of good for him, simply by being a voice in the wilderness and a shoulder to cry on.

    i'm so sorry for your loss, i absolutely empathize with you. please dont beat yourself up, there is nothing you could have done. its sad, its very sad to lose someone close to us.

    be proud of how you touched his life. be sad for what a waste for him to take his life. and be careful that you do not fall into a depression..

    i'm so sorry about this, i know how hard this can be..

    really can anyone understand?

    I won't go back to where I was but this ****ing hurts!
  • LauraMacNCheese
    LauraMacNCheese Posts: 7,173 Member
    My deepest sympathies on your loss. I can empathize to some extent on what you're going through. I lost a close friend to suicide a few years ago. We all thought she'd gotten back on track, too. I have to agree with everything Clyde said...you can be proud of yourself for being a friend to this young man when he needed one. You provided something that many people sorely need...someone who will listen and offer a shoulder. I'm not sure losing someone ever heals completely. But the hurt will get better as time passes.
  • norma67
    norma67 Posts: 255 Member
    I am sorry I know you are hurting from it
    and trying to understand

    he was coming back
    but maybe he just had a severly bad day where he felt completely unable to do anything
    we all know that we hurt those that we leave behind but at that time he was not thinking that

    He just felt that he couldn't go forward anymore

    remember all of the conversations you had
    remember those times he lifted your spirit
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    I set this group up a few years ago and everything has been brilliant since! Yes I tried the suicide route but woke up and saw the sunshine! In 6 years haven't lost one and now doubting if I should be doing this!
  • norma67
    norma67 Posts: 255 Member
    I set this group up a few years ago and everything has been brilliant since! Yes I tried the suicide route but woke up and saw the sunshine! In 6 years haven't lost one and now doubting if I should be doing this!

    do not doubt yourself
    you have an incredible rate if he is your first in 6 years.
    as a person who has dealt with depression you know that there are time when there is no real reason why
    it is what is happening in that moment that second

    I can relate a great deal.....
    I worked the suicide hotline for mental health for a long time
    I basically grew up with mental health as my family work for it
    and I have dealt with depression myself

    you cannot save all of them
    some will tell you want you want to hear but will do as they want
    but that is not your fault in anyway
    you have given them an outlet, a place that they can go
    that is more then what they had before
  • WanderingMe
    WanderingMe Posts: 216 Member
    I dont know what to say with you except, please keep your head up. I will send positive thoughts your way
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    I know that what you are all saying is right, but why do I feel so **** an that I feel responsible?

    I looked after this young man daily, What have I done wrong?
  • dlaplume2
    dlaplume2 Posts: 1,658 Member
    It's hard when you can't explain the unexplainable. I am so sorry for your loss. I know this is a hard time, but you must look at all the other people you have helped. There must be many that you have helped along the way. Maybe you could reach out to others that know how to handle this. I have never been there, but I know there must be many doctors, firemen, policemen, etc have hit that point where they have tried everything they could to save someone and they lose them. There is no answer, but maybe there is a technique they use to help the make sense of it.

    You feel such pain and despair because you CARE. Don't you dare lose that.

    I hope you can somehow find comfort and solice to get you through such a difficult time.
    :flowerforyou:
  • kassia1687
    kassia1687 Posts: 24 Member
    Please don't doubt yourself. In 6 years you must've helped a number of people find their way back. Don't let this ruin all of your hard work.

    Plain & simple, suicide is the choice and decision of the individual. It is my belief that it is essentially up to that person whether or not they think they can continue on with life in the mind set they are struggling with. Sometimes they can find help that shakes them out of their funk and helps them to find something worth living for. But sometimes there is nothing an outsider can do for them-it has to come from within.

    You did the best you could, and you should be proud to have helped. He wouldn't want you to give up on everyone else who needs you.
  • hbrittingham
    hbrittingham Posts: 2,518 Member
    I know that what you are all saying is right, but why do I feel so **** an that I feel responsible?

    I looked after this young man daily, What have I done wrong?

    You didn't do anything wrong. You did what you could, but he was obviously suffering so much that he didn't feel he could go on. What a sad, sad thing.
  • norma67
    norma67 Posts: 255 Member
    I know that what you are all saying is right, but why do I feel so **** an that I feel responsible?

    I looked after this young man daily, What have I done wrong?

    you feel responsible because he was one of yours
    each person that comes in there becomes yours
    you feel the need to protect them and help them

    but remember you didn't do anything wrong
    you did all you could to give him a stable place

    when this happened
    he was in a bad place ....
    he was not able to think clear enough to contact you or anyone

    it tears you apart that the seams
    but you could not have done anything differently
    don't second guess yourself
    you have others that still need you....

    you have six years of success.....that is incredible
    think of all of those that you have seen during that time
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    Yes I do care and that is what hurts so much! Yes I have been there myself and seriously hurt people close to me

    It took me 2 years to be able to see my daughters again and now I cherish every moment with them!
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    Thank you all so much, but I really can't cope with this!
  • kokaneesailor
    kokaneesailor Posts: 337 Member
    Hey Stuey, I've had almost the same thing happen to me. At the end of the day you can't blame yourself for what happened. Life is something that we have no control over. As much as we would like to, we can't wrap people in bubble wrap to protect them. Trust me it just doesn't work. Hope you see things in a clearer light in the morning.

    Take Care
  • stuey39
    stuey39 Posts: 159
    Thanks man, coming froming a vet. that really does mean alot!

    You must have lost a few friends along the way,

    How did you deal with it?
  • kokaneesailor
    kokaneesailor Posts: 337 Member
    Thanks man, coming froming a vet. that really does mean alot!

    You must have lost a few friends along the way,

    How did you deal with it?

    I drank...alot. And was extremely sarcastic (defense mechanism)...Kept it together professionally until I got home. Anyway after 30 years I finally no longer had the strength to keep killing myself in daily doses of alcohol and cigerettes. I handed the keys to my life over to Jesus, he drives the bus now, I`m just a passenger. The demons have been cast out and I`m finally at peace. Clean, sober and shiny like a new dime. :D
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