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  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    Low weight high reps will be almost useless. Moderate to heavy weights with moderate to low reps.

    I disagree. You have to build up to heavy weights. Can't go zero to 100 immediately. You're more likely to hurt something, dislike it so much you wont keep at it, etc. Challenge yourself, yes, but learn good form first - and that's the first thing that goes out the door with uneducated lifters using too heavy of weights.

    Heavy is relative.......my heavy when I started lifting is not my heavy now.....but if you spend 5 weeks doing 5 pounders for 20 rep....this is pretty much a waste of time
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Heavy is relative.......my heavy when I started lifting is not my heavy now.....but if you spend 5 weeks doing 5 pounders for 20 rep....this is pretty much a waste of time

    This. If I can carry a 40# bucket of kitty litter from the car, through the yard, and up a flight of steps, I'm not going to get much of a workout picking up something the size of a 12 week old kitten.
  • eayal002
    eayal002 Posts: 186
    Bump...any particular weight regimen recommended?

    bodybuilding.com has some great routines for men and woman, depending what your goal is it will give you a routine (cardio and weights) to meet your goals.
  • teagin2002
    teagin2002 Posts: 1,900 Member
    I really don't like weight training so I haven't done it that much.

    ^ Here's the big contributor to skinny-fat.

    I know it's low for maintaining but it's been keeping me at that weight..I haven't tried upping calories.

    Try upping calories.
    Should I take one more day off cardio and really focus on weight/muscle training? Thanks to anyone who reads all this an answers.

    I would consider taking some time off entirely and increase cals a bit and if you gain a little during this period, don't stress it. I'd then return after about a week off and drop the cardio down to 3 - 4 days and start a heavy lifting program 3-4 days/week.

    ^^ this, I know what you are talking about. It is very difficult to transition from losing weight to maintaining and there will be a little gain in weight (not due to fat gain) when transitioning from only cardio and eating with a deficit to maintaining and lifting.
    I have don it and I ended up gaining about 8 lbs with in the thirst month and a half to two months, then dropped 4lbs with in a month after that.
    Our body holds on to water when we first start to lift heavy also muscle does weigh and it takes about 6 weeks under normal circumstances to gain 1 lb of muscle.
    Since then over all I am up 4 lbs from my lowest weight and down 2 dress sizes. In the beginning I didn't want to transition from so much cardio because of the euphoric release it gave me, but now I feel much more balanced and happier over all.
    Also some of that flab you are talking about might be loose skin depending on how much weight you lost. That will take a combination of lifting, cardio, a healthy diet and time too.

    I hope this helps :flowerforyou:
  • josery1630
    josery1630 Posts: 205 Member
    Since you said you don't like weight training, maybe check out a class at your gym. They have several at mine that are different kinds of weight lifting, and when you do it with an instructor or other people, it's usually easier.
  • fasttrack27
    fasttrack27 Posts: 324
    Heavy is relative.......my heavy when I started lifting is not my heavy now.....but if you spend 5 weeks doing 5 pounders for 20 rep....this is pretty much a waste of time

    This. If I can carry a 40# bucket of kitty litter from the car, through the yard, and up a flight of steps, I'm not going to get much of a workout picking up something the size of a 12 week old kitten.

    Agreed, but you're at a different level. We're talking about her, not you. For someone who has never lifted 40# before and then told to go try to do it over and over for 30-60 minutes I dont think is the best advise either. Why are a couple of you pointing to the extremes? Nobody said to start with kittens or cat litter tubs or 5 weeks of 5lbs. And of course heavy is a relative term to the individual. I specifically said to challenge herself (not kittens or whatever). If heavy maxes you out at 6-8, medium at 8-12, and light is 12-14 reps (should be a logical amount) then I dont see a downside to someone brand new doing a couple weeks at lighter weight/reps then graduating up. BTW, 5lb/20 reps IS a big challenge for some people. I know because I live with one.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Heavy is relative.......my heavy when I started lifting is not my heavy now.....but if you spend 5 weeks doing 5 pounders for 20 rep....this is pretty much a waste of time

    This. If I can carry a 40# bucket of kitty litter from the car, through the yard, and up a flight of steps, I'm not going to get much of a workout picking up something the size of a 12 week old kitten.

    Agreed, but you're at a different level. We're talking about her, not you. For someone who has never lifted 40# before and then told to go try to do it over and over for 30-60 minutes I dont think is the best advise either. Why are a couple of you pointing to the extremes? Nobody said to start with kittens or cat litter tubs or 5 weeks of 5lbs. And of course heavy is a relative term to the individual. I specifically said to challenge herself (not kittens or whatever). If heavy maxes you out at 6-8, medium at 8-12, and light is 12-14 reps (should be a logical amount) then I dont see a downside to someone brand new doing a couple weeks at lighter weight/reps then graduating up. BTW, 5lb/20 reps IS a big challenge for some people. I know because I live with one.

    I wouldn't say I am at a different level. I'm a total newb to all this. No one is saying to lifting one weight for an hour straight. I sure as hell couldn't lift that cat litter bucket for an hour.

    She's already at a rather light weight for her size, and is concerned about being "flabby." To me, that says she doesn't have enough lean body mass. I've been there, too, and I know what it took to transform my body. And it wasn't light weights and high reps. That's just adding more cardio, and she's already doing buttloads of cardio, and isn't happy with the result.
  • kernowprincess
    kernowprincess Posts: 135 Member
    Have you tried doing a body pump exercise at your local gym. I run a lot (well started to) and my PT has suggested this as an alternative on my non-running days to help with strength and stamina. I often feel tired after running and use a protein shake as a pick me up but I see you are already upping your protein. The body pump certainly makes me feel good after as it gets my adrenaline going and does not affect my food intake too much.
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