Keto Diet? What is it? Is it safe?

KacieHetrick
KacieHetrick Posts: 259 Member
edited November 8 in Health and Weight Loss
A little background...I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease last year after putting on weight (100 lbs in a year 5 years prior and after not receiving any answers I set up an appointment with a specialist last Fall.) Since that appointment I lost 46 lbs and I've started working out 5x's a week doing Zumba and logging everything on MFP, trying to stay around no more than 45 carbs/meal and I've been doing an ok job of staying around 100 /day.Yesterday at my Dr's appt due to my hyperinsulinanemia (sp?) the Dr prescribed Keto sticks? No other explanation other than "I'm going to put you on a diet that has never worked for me", he goes about 450 lbs. Only other thing he told me was that they (keto sticks) would be waiting at the pharmacy by the time I got home.I haven't been to the pharmacy to pick them up (pharmacy was closed by the time I got back). So my question is what do I eat on a Keto Diet, is it safe?
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  • 54m0n6
    54m0n6 Posts: 7
    keto diet is where you eat low-no carbs with high protein and fat. your body will adapt to using fat as energy because of the lack of carbs. keto stix are used to determine if your body is in ketogenic state. i started doing keto yesterday. lets be friends :)
  • iwisheyes
    iwisheyes Posts: 95
    I have recently read a lot about it. It doesn't sound healthy to me. :(
  • TNoire
    TNoire Posts: 642 Member
    pros
    you might see quick results
    but the cons
    gaining it back twice as fast

    you can't do a change like that for the rest of your life
    its not healthy
    maybe a good thing to help jump start your system
    but the cons of it
    can't do it forever cause it wont be healthy in the long run

    I had a doctor (that isn't my doctor anymore)
    tell me to do the meat/cheese/egg thing and thats it
    great jump start
    6 months into it I was 3 months away from having a heart attack AT 27 YEARS OLD!

    not all doctors know what they are talking about, best to ask a dietitian OR ask another doctor for another opinion

    your body needs fuel to fire, whole grains keep you fuller longer and fresh fruits and veggies and LEAN meats

    yes that means you must cook from scratch or you can do quick and healthy meals
    but slow and steady wins the race, not all at once or you will be back to square one in no time

    good luck
  • ventdivin
    ventdivin Posts: 1
    Sorry but the majority of studies show that keto type diets are the best for weight loss in the long run.
    It is indeed healthy as long as you watch your macros and get the daily dose of nutrients.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Sorry but the majority of studies show that keto type diets are the best for weight loss in the long run.

    Do you have some of these studies?

    OP: It may not be necessary but I wouldn't call it dangerous if done properly.
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    0-50 gr carbs a day=full ketosis quick weight loss
    50-100 gr carbs...=healthy 1-2 lbs a week fat loss
    100-150 gr carbs...=weight maintanance
    150-250gr carbs...=weight gain ( in most people)
    Over 250 gr per day = can lead to long term health problems.

    All above taken from the Paleo diet by Mark Sisson
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    Sorry but the majority of studies show that keto type diets are the best for weight loss in the long run.
    It is indeed healthy as long as you watch your macros and get the daily dose of nutrients.
    So full of wrong.

    Here is one study saying you're wrong.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2949959/?tool=pmcentrez

    Oh and I was on the Anabolic Diet for over a year. I had great results, however I got tired of the restriction of foods and the carb up got lame.
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member


    your body needs fuel to fire, whole grains keep you fuller longer and fresh fruits and veggies and LEAN meats

    Agree with all the above...except the whole grains...
  • Bretto
    Bretto Posts: 196 Member
    While you may lose weight fast, you WILL put it back on twice as fast once you start eating carbs.
  • mangozulu
    mangozulu Posts: 90 Member
    Is your specialist an MD? Fully ketogenic diets should medically monitored. Registered Dietitians are the best resource for diet related questions and advice.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    While you may lose weight fast, you WILL put it back on twice as fast once you start eating carbs.
    She is correct.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2781796/?tool=pmcentrez
  • Chagama
    Chagama Posts: 543 Member

    you can't do a change like that for the rest of your life
    its not healthy
    maybe a good thing to help jump start your system
    but the cons of it
    can't do it forever cause it wont be healthy in the long run
    That's the key in my opinion. Doing something without changing your basic habits is doomed to fail as soon as you stop.
  • Heaven71
    Heaven71 Posts: 706 Member
    There is nothing wrong with a low carb diet, it works and it is healthy. The downfall... everyone in your home, that you eat with will have to be on the diet as well, at least they did for me. I could not have the carbs in the house. My SO now is a carb fiend so I had to switch to low calorie. I was on low carb for about 7 years and stayed very fit end extremely healthy. The last year I was on it; I had my blood work done and my bad cholesterol was very low and good cholesterol was high the doc was like BONUS!!

    If you are doing a low carb diet already, get the sticks. I never needed them as I didn't have much to lose in the first place.

    I also stayed thin after quitting the lo9w carb diet and only gained from quitting smoking and starting a desk job 2 years ago. Dieting sucks but something we must do to stay fit and healthy.
  • starrygirl82
    starrygirl82 Posts: 76 Member
    keto diet is where you eat low-no carbs with high protein and fat. your body will adapt to using fat as energy because of the lack of carbs. keto stix are used to determine if your body is in ketogenic state. i started doing keto yesterday. lets be friends :)

    I've just recently started a few days ago. How are you doing so far?
  • onedayillbamilf
    onedayillbamilf Posts: 662 Member
    Keto sticks are sticks you pee on, not something you eat or take. The induction phase of Atkins is a keto diet. Basically 20g carbs or less.
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    While you may lose weight fast, you WILL put it back on twice as fast once you start eating carbs.
    She is correct.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2781796/?tool=pmcentrez

    Rats?
  • LadyPippen
    LadyPippen Posts: 59
    Your best bet is to stick with the Primal Blue Print where you're only allowed to eat carbs from fruits, veggies, seeds and nuts. Basically cutting out all fast and process carbs from your nutritional intake. I've gone primal and so far its working for me.
    0-50 gr carbs a day=full ketosis quick weight loss
    50-100 gr carbs...=healthy 1-2 lbs a week fat loss
    100-150 gr carbs...=weight maintanance
    150-250gr carbs...=weight gain ( in most people)
    Over 250 gr per day = can lead to long term health problems.

    All above taken from the Paleo diet by Mark Sisson
  • joeylu
    joeylu Posts: 208 Member
    THere is no quick fix, magic pill or shake that will make you lose weight. Lossing weight is eating right and working out.
  • HotKanye
    HotKanye Posts: 103 Member
    It's annoying to me hearing about how many doctors are "prescribing" diets when they have next to no training in nutrition. They are so caught up in the pathology of disease that they only know how to treat illness, not promote wellness. Just because one doctor tells you something doesn't mean it's true or you have to do it. It's just their opinion. Make sure you do your own research and ask the critical thinking questions that are so important before following any one person's advice regardless of what letters are after their name. (And as they say, remember that 50% of doctors finished in the bottom half of their class.)
  • princessputz
    princessputz Posts: 283 Member
    I'm currently on that diet, and in a ketogenic state. I think it's perfectly healthy for me and so does my dr. Do I recommend it to people who have a completely normal metabolism? Hell no! But really it works! In 36 days I've lost 22 lbs and 16 inches all over. The whole calorie in, calorie out thing just didn't work for me at all. Now, with this being said once I get close to my goal weight I will add carbs back until I reach a maintenance level and stay there. I imagine this number to be around 75-100. This isn't a diet but a lifestyle change, I wouldn't be doing it unless I thought I could do it for life.


    Also I cheat...yesterday I had Chinese food....and I didn't gain it all back :tongue:.

    ***I should also add my dr is an endocrinologist whom I believe has my interests at heart, and is far more educated then some dietitian or nutritionist who has been in college for 2 years learning about the pyramid.
  • lind3400
    lind3400 Posts: 557 Member
    I eat low carb by choice, but I eat lots of protein becasue I find it keeps me full longer than breads and grains...thats what works for me, its maintainable and I never feel deprived, that diet of yours sounds a little risky and too unresearched and definitely unhealthy, why would you want to fill your body with fat??
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    Good on you Ladypippen....Me too
  • junyr
    junyr Posts: 416 Member
    I'm not sure that I'd take diet advice from a Dr/Dietitian that was 450lbs himself...
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    While you may lose weight fast, you WILL put it back on twice as fast once you start eating carbs.
    She is correct.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2781796/?tool=pmcentrez

    Rats?
    Did you even read the conclusion. I bet you didn't.
  • LadyPippen
    LadyPippen Posts: 59
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-succeed-with-the-primal-blueprint/#axzz1n8XZBjE5
    Your best bet is to stick with the Primal Blue Print where you're only allowed to eat carbs from fruits, veggies, seeds and nuts. Basically cutting out all fast and process carbs from your nutritional intake. I've gone primal and so far its working for me.
    0-50 gr carbs a day=full ketosis quick weight loss
    50-100 gr carbs...=healthy 1-2 lbs a week fat loss
    100-150 gr carbs...=weight maintanance
    150-250gr carbs...=weight gain ( in most people)
    Over 250 gr per day = can lead to long term health problems.

    All above taken from the Paleo diet by Mark Sisson
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    I'm currently on that diet, and in a ketogenic state. I think it's perfectly healthy for me and so does my dr. Do I recommend it to people who have a completely normal metabolism? Hell no! But really it works! In 36 days I've lost 22 lbs and 16 inches all over. The whole calorie in, calorie out thing just didn't work for me at all. Now, with this being said once I get close to my goal weight I will add carbs back until I reach a maintenance level and stay there. I imagine this number to be around 75-100. This isn't a diet but a lifestyle change, I wouldn't be doing it unless I thought I could do it for life.


    Also I cheat...yesterday I had Chinese food....and I didn't gain it all back :tongue:.


    Keep us up to date on how your doing...
  • lind3400
    lind3400 Posts: 557 Member
    Your best bet is to stick with the Primal Blue Print where you're only allowed to eat carbs from fruits, veggies, seeds and nuts. Basically cutting out all fast and process carbs from your nutritional intake. I've gone primal and so far its working for me.
    0-50 gr carbs a day=full ketosis quick weight loss
    50-100 gr carbs...=healthy 1-2 lbs a week fat loss
    100-150 gr carbs...=weight maintanance
    150-250gr carbs...=weight gain ( in most people)
    Over 250 gr per day = can lead to long term health problems.

    All above taken from the Paleo diet by Mark Sisson

    THIS^^^ is the way to go
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    0-50 gr carbs a day=full ketosis quick weight loss
    50-100 gr carbs...=healthy 1-2 lbs a week fat loss
    100-150 gr carbs...=weight maintanance
    150-250gr carbs...=weight gain ( in most people)
    Over 250 gr per day = can lead to long term health problems.

    All above taken from the Paleo diet by Mark Sisson
    He is wrong. I have cut over 30lbs since January on carb intake of over 250g. People act like carbs have some magical profile. It's 4 calories per gram just like protein. I don't see anyone cutting protein out. You're body needs a combination of all three to run optimally.

    It's like saying cars doesn't need wheels. Sure, you take the wheels off you lose weight. You also can move along on the hubs. You wont be moving fast though.

    Oh and according to my sumo-type (Endomorph) I should gain over 1000 pounds when I consume any carbs, but I don't. The carb phobia is disgusting.
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    0-50 gr carbs a day=full ketosis quick weight loss
    50-100 gr carbs...=healthy 1-2 lbs a week fat loss
    100-150 gr carbs...=weight maintanance
    150-250gr carbs...=weight gain ( in most people)
    Over 250 gr per day = can lead to long term health problems.

    All above taken from the Paleo diet by Mark Sisson
    He is wrong. I have cut over 30lbs since January on carb intake of over 250g. People act like carbs has some magical profile. It's 4calories per gram just like protein. I don't see anyone cutting protein out. You're body needs a combination of all three to run optimally.

    It's like saying cars doesn't need wheels. Sure, you take the wheels off you lose weight. You also can move along on the hubs. You wont be moving fast though.


    Each to their own...What works for some doesn`t work for others...Personally speaking the ONLY way i can lose weight and keep it off...is the Low carb Way...And believe me i`ve tried so many diets in the past that are great at the time, but useless if you go back to eating crappy proccessed carbs..
  • raystark
    raystark Posts: 403 Member
    Sorry but the majority of studies show that keto type diets are the best for weight loss in the long run.
    It is indeed healthy as long as you watch your macros and get the daily dose of nutrients.

    +1
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