Detox/Cleansing Diet

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  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
    Exactly this. YOu don't need to puy any products. Just eat better. You will feel just as good.
    The thing with things like "the Master Cleanse" is they cost money (often A LOT of money) and they don't do anything that you can't do yourself by eating healthy and exercising.

    To the OP- If you absolutely feel like you need to detox/cleanse for some psychological reason (it's not necessary for any physiological reasons), then try a short 24 hour fast. Drink lots of water and then start eating quality, nutritious foods afterward.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    I was wrong there were a lot of studies published.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/bib_gerson_therapy.html

    Specifically, which of these studies do you find relevant to your belief that detoxes are beneficial?
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member

    Yes, you will drop weight.
    There isn't any magical chemistry going on. There aren't imaginary toxins in your cells, holding on to fat.


    didnt say there was.


    you cant say anything about something you havnt tried.period.

    Of course I can, because clinical evidence is more important than individual anecdotes. There is NO evidence that cleanses are any more effective than just eating a healthy diet.
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
    I was wrong there were a lot of studies published.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/bib_gerson_therapy.html

    Specifically, which of these studies do you find relevant to your belief that detoxes are beneficial?


    I love how all of the studies were published between 1929-1935. DUDE! get something a little more current!!
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
    CLeanses are stupid. I have yet to see one that has one shred of clinical evidence behind it, let alone one that identifies any of the so called toxins it supposedly gets rid of.

    If you suddenly go on a strict diet, after eating crap for years, you will drop weight. You're not dropping imaginary toxins.

    The gerson therapy has a list of toxins and a ton of clinical evidence behind it, unfortunately few have been published. a few toxins are chlorine, fluoride, food additives, drugs, chemical agriculture wastes, altered foods, nicotine, and alcohol.


    and he identified these toxins how? was the mass spec even invented at that point?
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
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  • hottottie11
    hottottie11 Posts: 907 Member
    Silly me for believing my kidneys and liver were enough to "cleanse" my body.:ohwell:
  • Cberg9
    Cberg9 Posts: 123
    C'mon guys keep this going, I'm bored at work....sigh, I need the entertainment!
    Labrat I know you have more info to give on this topic... :wink:
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    If you are having problems with toxins why not go to the hospital and get dialysis?
  • AFitJamie
    AFitJamie Posts: 172 Member
    Love these replies!

    I've always wondered about these "cleanse" diets... I have an opinion only that they may help break people's daily dietary practices... When you have to eat 2 almonds, 4.25 grams of wheat germ... Etc etc etc. you build a habit of weighing things, counting things, and forcing yourself away from your previous 'regular' diet. and yes, I've done one like this following a personal trainer and I'm certain that the diet was simply a means to break habits.

    As far as the concept that there are random toxins floating around somewhere inside the body... Where exactly are they and how did they manage to lock themselves inside my body? I've heard so many claims on these diets that are truly bizarre... I can't figure out where the basic biology concepts went.

    To the OP, it is my opinion that you don't need a "cleanse" to launch your weight loss... If you want a strict diet to force you to change habits... That"s different, but I would suggest that you save your money and avoid throwing cash at supplements that seem to promise much, but I have yet to see deliver anything more than would be accomplished following a diet where'd you cut your calories and up your activity...

    If you look around the site and see some of the recent, popular posts floating around... I'd say that a "cleanse" is a polka dot dress and grass clippings...

    Jamie
  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    I was wrong there were a lot of studies published.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/bib_gerson_therapy.html

    Specifically, which of these studies do you find relevant to your belief that detoxes are beneficial?

    Detoxes are beneficial to people with degenerative illnesses. Healthy people don't really have to be this drastic.
    All the studies are relevant. also Max Gerson's book A Cancer Therapy: Results of 50 Cases would be relevant. The book I own on this is Healing the Gerson Way, which also has the case studies of recovered patients.
  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    If you are having problems with toxins why not go to the hospital and get dialysis?
    dialysis will cleanse the blood if you have renal failure but it does not remove built up toxins in the cells throughout the body.
  • BelievePersevereInspire
    BelievePersevereInspire Posts: 14 Member
    Sometimes people need a guide, and may not truly know what clean eating means.

    In this regard, I would recommend Dr. Mark Hyman's Ultrasimple diet. I know every BODY is different, but it is what I needed to break my cravings for sweets.

    It's basically what everyone is saying, real food...
  • rebeccap13
    rebeccap13 Posts: 754 Member
    I like the "clean eating" cleanse. You eat fruits, veggies, lean meats, beans, and it works wonders! You drink lots of water, and exercise is key too

    Hit the nail on the head... guess what, your body cleanses itself! If it didn't, you'd be dead!
  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    Silly me for believing my kidneys and liver were enough to "cleanse" my body.:ohwell:

    They are enough if you don't overload your system with toxins.
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member
    Exactly what are you hoping to cleanse from your body? Are you addicted to drugs? Are you suffering from exposure to heavy metals?
  • stcar
    stcar Posts: 207 Member
    CLeanses are stupid. I have yet to see one that has one shred of clinical evidence behind it, let alone one that identifies any of the so called toxins it supposedly gets rid of.

    If you suddenly go on a strict diet, after eating crap for years, you will drop weight. You're not dropping imaginary toxins.

    i think dropping the weight is like idk kinda the point.....

    and if you ever did one you can tell your body is cleansed because you can FEEL it

    Yes, you will drop weight.
    There isn't any magical chemistry going on. There aren't imaginary toxins in your cells, holding on to fat.
    Healthy cleanses (juice fasts etc) are a great way for some people to start off a new healthy lifestyle. They can make you feel lighter, clear up skin and energize you. I'm not suggesting those "cleanses" that you buy in the form of pills at the pharmacy, but rather juices, veggies etc....it can feel amazing. You could read the book You Are What You Eat for ideas :) or go for a colon cleanse if you dare :)
  • greasygriddle_wechnage
    greasygriddle_wechnage Posts: 246 Member
    I did the 17 day cycle diet, dropped 13 pounds, and got me kicked started in the right direction. I never felt cleaner and "lighter", just pure, simple, clean food.....
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    what kind detox? laxatives like ex lax like a detox?

    No.. there were no laxatives mentioned in this thread, and also, ex lax is not a detox. It's a medicine for when you can't poop on your own. However, I think you know that.
  • mhaynam1970
    mhaynam1970 Posts: 8 Member
    This may not be the same thing but when I have real fruit smoothie it sends me to the bathroom with in a half hour so I always have to be careful if I have one. It obviously does something to me.
  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    Hello everyone.
    I am just getting started on this site and with weight loss. I am wondering if anyone could recommend a detox/cleansing diet to get my weight loss goals started.
    Thanks
    Beth
    This is a good cleansing diet:
    http://www.cleanprogram.com/support

    http://cleanprogram.com/files/clean-program-manual.pdf
  • SaraTN
    SaraTN Posts: 536 Member
    As many before me have said... I wouldn't focus on a magic potion, herbs, etc. Try a vegan diet for 10 days and consume a lot of water. It will clean you out internally and chances are you will see a few pounds come off the scale in addition to feeling better overall. I have done this in the past and it worked and always good to revist a few times a year.
  • Christinajoey2000
    Christinajoey2000 Posts: 13
    I started off with a very simple 21 day cleanse in Jan 2011. Basically, you drink lots of water (and/or herbal tea), eat whole grains (like brown rice, quinoa, steel cut oats, etc--not baked goods) and fruit for breakfast and raw or steamed vegatables the rest of the time. You can also have a moderate amount of sugar and fat each day--I used honey and olive oil. You can have other things like herbs and spices, lemon, ginger, garlic, etc that are good for you and add flavor. No alcohol. No caffiene.

    I cheated a little by adding organic beans or chicken sometimes and allowing myself 2 glasses of red wine per weekend. I still lost 12 pounds.

    In retrospect, I'd say the main advatage was that it stopped my cravings and got me used to purchasing and preparing whole, healthy foods on a regular basis--basically, it assisted me in breaking bad habits. I've lost an additional 40+ pounds since then.

    I felt great while I was doing this and noticed that I did not need to use deodorant anymore--a sign of detoxification? I don't know, but it happened. Science aside, to me, it just makes sense that your body would rid itself of toxins if you flush it out and stop adding them to your system.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
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