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jerber160
jerber160 Posts: 2,606 Member
It's kinda fascinating that with michele obama in the mix, more hefties aren't interested in politics. I saw a couple of political groups that haven't had updates in months. curious.....
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  • Johnnyswife
    Johnnyswife Posts: 1,447 Member
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    :huh: confuzzled....
  • jerber160
    jerber160 Posts: 2,606 Member
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    how come?
  • savage22hp
    savage22hp Posts: 278 Member
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    Is there some kind of fat / thin power struggle that I am unaware of or is there a giant doughnut lobby that has been slapped down?
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
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    I'm thinking this is another "Michelle Obama doesn't look like a Barbie doll" attempt at a criticism. Frankly, if hefty people were only interested in politics if there were overweight people involved then that would explain a lot of Limbaugh and Newt fans.
  • jerber160
    jerber160 Posts: 2,606 Member
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    I'm kind of a hard core democrat who thinks kind of conservatively, within my scope.
    I also don't like the hate and anger and twisting and negativity and obstruction everywhere. I really think obama is doing a great job, all things considered, and i LOVE his wife. but I go to right wing web sites and they just BLAST her. Tearing her down... claiming communism and 'they want to take away your supersized candy....they want to tell you what you are allowed to eat...socialists... communistt... tripe...
    I'm FOR her weight campaign, no less than 'reading is fundamental' and 'just say no..' I'm 52 an NEVER thought I could weigh 160lbs...EVER. So I thought I'd look for an mfp political group and the few I found have minimum members and no posts in months. MICHELE ROCKS and us fatties should be supporting her because she truly wants what is GOOD and RIGHT for us and our kids. It's a hoot she does pushups on TV.. and dances with elementary students... HOW POSITIVE CAN YOU GET and this site is all about positive reinforcement... so I thought it was odd that's not spilling over. sorry for the rant..
  • tfrederick79
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    I really think obama is doing a great job, all things considered

    Really???
  • jerber160
    jerber160 Posts: 2,606 Member
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    I really think obama is doing a great job, all things considered

    Really???
    Yep.. doing his best to keep his campaign promises... many more kept than broken or stalled. Iraq (the wrong war) is less important, DADT gone, supports rethinking no child left behind..bin Ladin DEAD..affordable health care moving in a positive direction, promoting clean energy and LESS DEPENDANCE ON FOREIGN OiI- one of my pet peeves.. if we'd listened to Jimmy Carter instead of branding him ineffectual on all counts, we'd be 30 years ahead of the energy game, instead we are exactly where we were then.. and his wife is a goddess... and friend of really helping us fatties...
  • committomittxoxo
    committomittxoxo Posts: 339 Member
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    *Crickets*
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    I agree, he is doing just fine. Especially when you consider all the obstruction going on. Here's an example: the one war we got involved with during his presidency, we played a minor role. It's over and we aren't spending any more money on it.
  • Buddhasmiracle
    Buddhasmiracle Posts: 925 Member
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    I'm kind of a hard core democrat who thinks kind of conservatively, within my scope.
    I also don't like the hate and anger and twisting and negativity and obstruction everywhere. I really think obama is doing a great job, all things considered, and i LOVE his wife. but I go to right wing web sites and they just BLAST her. Tearing her down... claiming communism and 'they want to take away your supersized candy....they want to tell you what you are allowed to eat...socialists... communistt... tripe...
    I'm FOR her weight campaign, no less than 'reading is fundamental' and 'just say no..' I'm 52 an NEVER thought I could weigh 160lbs...EVER. So I thought I'd look for an mfp political group and the few I found have minimum members and no posts in months. MICHELE ROCKS and us fatties should be supporting her because she truly wants what is GOOD and RIGHT for us and our kids. It's a hoot she does pushups on TV.. and dances with elementary students... HOW POSITIVE CAN YOU GET and this site is all about positive reinforcement... so I thought it was odd that's not spilling over. sorry for the rant..

    I think Michelle is doing a great job with her focus on weight issues and young people. She's a terrific looking woman, she's bright and sharp, and a corporate attorney. Both she and the President have done a fine job shielding their girls from the press.
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    As far as Michelle is concerned, she's a great role model. But you gotta remember that haters are gunna hate.
  • jerber160
    jerber160 Posts: 2,606 Member
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    I agree, he is doing just fine. Especially when you consider all the obstruction going on. Here's an example: the one war we got involved with during his presidency, we played a minor role. It's over and we aren't spending any more money on it.
    congratulations on your weight loss man ..you look great!
  • jerber160
    jerber160 Posts: 2,606 Member
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    As far as Michelle is concerned, she's a great role model. But you gotta remember that haters are gunna hate.
    how do you combat mindless hate? what can you say? the repub candidates are AGAINST everything..... obama is implementing many republican ideas and THEY ARE SUDDENLY AGAINST THEM.. there is a severe lack of sense going on that I think is summed up in the anti-everything haters... so it's getting harder to hold my tongue. the world should be at least praising michele for taking on a worthy cause, not bashing her because she's a democrat. we have so lost our way....
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    how do you combat mindless hate? what can you say? the repub candidates are AGAINST everything..... obama is implementing many republican ideas and THEY ARE SUDDENLY AGAINST THEM.. there is a severe lack of sense going on that I think is summed up in the anti-everything haters... so it's getting harder to hold my tongue. the world should be at least praising michele for taking on a worthy cause, not bashing her because she's a democrat. we have so lost our way....
    I was reading an article, wish I could remember where or who wrote it, but the opinion was that the republicans can't let the public think Obama can get bi-partisan support on things. If the public saw this, they'd give him a higher approval rating. Instead, they go against ANYTHING he says.

    Remember the dept ceiling fiasco? Obama was willing to put Social Security and Medicare reform on the table. What republican doesn't want that? Oh, wait, the current ones in the House. If they went along with that, it would appear the President was doing something right.

    Don't ever forget the words of Senate minority leader Mitch McConnelle: The single most important goal the republicans have is to make President Obama a 1 term president. Diss-agreeing with him, regardless of what he says, is part of their plan.

    I consider myself a moderate liberal. I have some conservative streaks inside of me that drive my wife nuts.
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    congratulations on your weight loss man ..you look great!
    Thanks!
  • committomittxoxo
    committomittxoxo Posts: 339 Member
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    Actually I'm pretty sure Michelle Obama was put on the "Let's Move" campaign after she said things like, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud to be an American," and other general flubs during Obama’s ’08 campaign. It's a positive (light) topic for the first lady.. I'm not sure why the Right is so concerned about it.. She's not trying to take away anyone's candy bar. However, I can't imagine that she has anything to do with the lack of excitement people are feeling in the political field right now...?
  • savage22hp
    savage22hp Posts: 278 Member
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    If I was going to discuss politics on this site I would point out how dizzy everyone is getting from circling the drain faster and faster as this country goes down . I would admit that President Obama isn't entirely to blame but after three years hasn't done much to halt the slide except maybe helping some golf courses stay in business . As for his wife , I don't have a beef with her , she is doing the normal first lady bit to stay in the public eye in a good light and both she and her husband are excellent parents and role models for their children. I don't agree with the Presidents politics or agenda , but I will not fault him for fighting for what he believes. If he really wanted Congressional support , bypassing the Constitution by appointing czars instead of gaining congressional approval for appointments might have been a major step in the right direction . Green energy is greatly desired but implementing non existent replacements is a far cry from sustaining the needs of the country while those technologies are developed and perfected . It was completely short sighted to shut down domestic off shore drilling while the rest of the world beats a path to the gulf to take advantage of our absence , to subsidize south American countries in their quest to bring more oil to the marketplace with the assurance that we will be a good customer , and to throw away an opportunity to pipe Canadian oil to our country and refineries standing behind procedure and timetables as if he hasn't badly bent guidelines when it suited his agenda .and if he really wanted to live up to campaign promises that little one about transparency in government and policy would have been great to start with instead of slowly allowing portions of his healthcare fiasco to leak out so it might not hurt too bad all at once like a frog slowly brought to boil in a pot .those are just a few of the things I would say if politics were an allowed subject on this site but since it's not I will refrain from really getting my dander up.
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
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    I'm kind of a hard core democrat who thinks kind of conservatively, within my scope.
    I also don't like the hate and anger and twisting and negativity and obstruction everywhere. I really think obama is doing a great job, all things considered, and i LOVE his wife. but I go to right wing web sites and they just BLAST her. Tearing her down... claiming communism and 'they want to take away your supersized candy....they want to tell you what you are allowed to eat...socialists... communistt... tripe...
    I'm FOR her weight campaign, no less than 'reading is fundamental' and 'just say no..' I'm 52 an NEVER thought I could weigh 160lbs...EVER. So I thought I'd look for an mfp political group and the few I found have minimum members and no posts in months. MICHELE ROCKS and us fatties should be supporting her because she truly wants what is GOOD and RIGHT for us and our kids. It's a hoot she does pushups on TV.. and dances with elementary students... HOW POSITIVE CAN YOU GET and this site is all about positive reinforcement... so I thought it was odd that's not spilling over. sorry for the rant..
    I apologize for jumping the gun. I'm used to dealing with people who call her fat because she doesn't look like a Barbie doll far more than people who admire her for all the positive aspects, both physical and intellectual.

    Tmch, You do look good. Congrats! You are also absolutely right that the Republicans are doing everything they can to sabbotage Obama. Legislation they wanted that he supports has lost their support. It's ridiculous. If Obama said he wanted to cut taxes for the 1% it would not surprise me if the GOP suddenly supported the middle class.

    Savage, You need to stop watching Fox "news". Czars have been around since Regan. Bush actually had more than Obama. We do get oil from Canada. The healthcare bit is only a fiasco to the GOP. Most people LIKE that they can keep their kids on their policy until they are 26 or that gays can have policies for their partners at many corporations/government institutions.
  • hausofnichele
    hausofnichele Posts: 531 Member
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    I'm kind of a hard core democrat who thinks kind of conservatively, within my scope.
    I also don't like the hate and anger and twisting and negativity and obstruction everywhere. I really think obama is doing a great job, all things considered, and i LOVE his wife. but I go to right wing web sites and they just BLAST her. Tearing her down... claiming communism and 'they want to take away your supersized candy....they want to tell you what you are allowed to eat...socialists... communistt... tripe...
    I'm FOR her weight campaign, no less than 'reading is fundamental' and 'just say no..' I'm 52 an NEVER thought I could weigh 160lbs...EVER. So I thought I'd look for an mfp political group and the few I found have minimum members and no posts in months. MICHELE ROCKS and us fatties should be supporting her because she truly wants what is GOOD and RIGHT for us and our kids. It's a hoot she does pushups on TV.. and dances with elementary students... HOW POSITIVE CAN YOU GET and this site is all about positive reinforcement... so I thought it was odd that's not spilling over. sorry for the rant..

    Completely agree and specifically speaking about Michelle and her consistent efforts to battle obesity in America, I think she is an unbelievably brave, great role model. She practices what she preaches and doesn't mind the vulnerability that comes with doing workouts on national tv and in front of critics. I have so much love and respect for her.
  • savage22hp
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    Quote : Savage, You need to stop watching Fox "news". Czars have been around since Regan. Bush actually had more than Obama. We do get oil from Canada. The healthcare bit is only a fiasco to the GOP. Most people LIKE that they can keep their kids on their policy until they are 26 or that gays can have policies for their partners at many corporations/government institutions.
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    I actually seldom watch any news show not really having the time but the local CBS affiliate in the morning and occasionally CNN which I think you might agree is a far cry from FOX. Czars actually date from FDR and I never said other Presidents didn't have them but President Obama takes the prize with 38 compared with President Bush who had 33 . I never said we didn't get oil from Canada either but the amount could and would be greatly increased with the proposed pipeline and middle-eastern dependence in this climate of weak kneed foreign policy is unacceptable . Whether most prefer the loss of freedoms associated with the Obamacare legislation remains to be seen at the next election and I think it would be a flat refutation of the policies of this
    administration if our current President is one term given the field of opponents the Republicans have fielded . In a time when we are going to have to make some unwanted tough decisions about the future of social security and medicare because of the fast and lose policies of Washington , the very last thing I personally want my government to administer is the healthcare for my aging parents , my special needs child , or myself as I grow past the time of "usefulness". I don't belong to a group that can be bought
    with political favors so I might really find myself in a tight spot . Yeah , I guess I would be interested in that cradle to grave Utopia that many think is available through all that "free" money from Washington if I wasn't out here busting my *kitten* helping to pay for all this foolishness already imposed over the last 100 years to prove how easy politicians can spend tax money . I didn't have time to get in line for the kool-aid.