PRIVATE MESSAGE FROM A 'FRIEND' ON HERE
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You know, I thought this was supposed to be a really positive and supportive site too, but I have seen my share (both on the forums and things 'friends' have said to me) of disparaging remarks on here. I think with a different tone, that message could have made the same point, but been less nasty (i.e. I know you're having a hard time fitting in work outs, but here are some things to try to get some extra activity in [insert list of add ins here]).
In any case, it doesn't matter what kind of problems you are or aren't going through right now. We all have slumps where we just can't seem to get motivated (or life starts slamming itself in your way), and to approach it like that is terrible. I mean, it's even worse because you have stuff going on that this person didn't know about, but even if you were just having a low motivation issue or whatever, there was no need to be so snarky (in my opinion). Feel free to friend me if you like, I promise to never send you messages like that one!0 -
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The tone of that message to me would only be ok coming from mom or other close family member or truly a friend. No one else in my opinion has the right to use that tone. Call it tough love but only people who actually love you can call it that!
I don't consider everyone on here real true true friends. Support buddies yes for encouragement, but only those few people that truly love you can go there!!0 -
I can see both sides. Everyone needs encouragement in different ways but in my opinion you shouldn't send that type of message to someone that you don't know well. Not everyone takes that type of information as encouragement but as criticism. I am blunt and to the point but also try to take people feelings in consideration. I would only say something like that to someone that I know real well and knew it would help them and not hurt them. We all go through things and have our good weeks and bad weeks. Just keep doing what you are doing and keep the faith and it will all work out. Don't let one person bring you down and hinder you more. If you need anything (support, motivation, whatever) let me know and I will try to help if I can.0
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well you have 2 choices, be pissed off at the audacity of this person or appreciate the "support" and move on.
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its important for friends to support you with encouragement as well as tell you get stop moaning and go move...
i agree! (although sometimes the latter is hard to hear, it's usually the most beneficial in the long run.)0 -
I think that is a supportive message, personally.
^^^^^^^I agree. I think she/he took the "tough love" approach and laid out the "harsh realities" in the first part. He/she then followed up with caring, sound advice. Have you unfriended this person? If I were you, I wouldn't do that. Have you replied to that message? I think he/she did a good thing by sending it privately. I don't think this person is out to hurt you. I think some back 'n forth follow-up messaging will be beneficial to you. Good luck.0 -
Heck....I wish whoever that was, was on my friends list. That sounds like the kind of person I want to associate with, personally. Life's short...either make excuses or make things happen.0
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Maybe that's not the type of support you need, in which case you should just delete her. Period, end of story. Find the people who support and motivate you in the way you need, and don't worry about the rest. We all need something different from our friends.
In all honestly, I'm more appalled that you would post her private message in a public forum than I am with the message itself. She was trying to help, and she did so discretely. I would rather have someone who is honest with me, even if harsh, as a friend over someone I can't trust to keep private messages private.0 -
Everyone has a different opinion on what support is... and clearly a slap in the butt and tough love isn't for you. There's no problem with that, just delete the person that you choose not to hear from anymore.
IMO, publicly re-posting her message seems to support her argument that you need to quit looking for sympathy and put on your big girl panties.0 -
I prefer friends like this to the ones that blow unicorn rainbow farts at you all day. Looks like they called it as they saw it and you can either take a look in the mirror and reassess and change, or not.0
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Sometimes we all need to hear someone say "just shut up and do it" regarding all sorts of things in our lives. That being said, I don't know your situation, and maybe this friend was a little out of line, but it really wasn't that harsh of a message, and I do consider it supportive. If something like that happened to me in real life, I would probably get a little pissy at first, because like I said, we don't like hearing it sometimes. But I know in the end I would end up thanking that person for caring enough to say "just shut up and do it". lol Good luck with your journey!0
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I can see how that could be frustrating to get. I hit some pretty bad lows a few weeks ago, and I felt this was the place to vent my frustrations because that's what we're here to do - support each other. But I admit, it's hard to deal with friends who seem to be in a low spot a lot. I think she was trying to be helpful and supportive, but maybe it could have been presented in a better/easier to understand way.
Try to learn what you can from this experience and move along. Live your life. But don't lose hope in everyone here!0 -
That is the kind of friend I want. If you are reading this please add me.
It was good advice. It was tough love too.0 -
I have mixed feelings about this message. On some days, I would receive it well & take it as a much needed kick in the pants. Other days, I would be very hurt or angry, like "how dare you, you have no idea what I'm going through." Thing is, unless you really know someone, you can't be sure how a message like this will be received. The fact that it was sent as a private message leads me to believe that his/her intentions were good; they were not trying to embarrass you or make you feel bad. That's my gut reaction anyway. If you believe their intent was to make you feel bad, then delete them.0
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Slap on those big girl panties and see this message for what it really is...SUPPORT. I would LOVE to have a friend like that (well, I have lots of them, because my friends are all supportive and awesome, just like this person)!0
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LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!! I NEED ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!
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Support comes in all sorts of forms and means different things to different people. It seems as though you may have a different definition for the type of support you wanted to receive versus what you did receive.
I would address the issue with her directly if it's bothering you (which it obviously is as you have now posted it for the public to see). It's up to you to decide whether you want this type of support or this person as a friend. Sometimes it's hard to be confronted with a "tough love" kind of reality check. You may not be ready to hear it. She may or may not have been right in sending it to you - I'm not one to say how appropriate it was for you.
I think she has a good message, perhaps it just wasn't put in a tone you were ready to hear it in.0 -
If she's not the type of friend you are looking for, I say delete and move on. Wish we could do that in real life...0
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I'm confused, that sounds like a great message from someone who genuinely cares. *scratches head*
What do you want, all rainbows and unicorns, someone to jump around waving pom poms every time you complete your diary or burn 110 calories? Obviously you said something that prompted this. Perhaps you had a bad day, were feeling discouraged, wanted to give up. This person sounds like they are encouraging you to fight for YOU.
Personally you can keep the cheerleaders. I want some hard@ss b!tches telling me that I'm WORTH IT.0 -
I think that is a supportive message, personally.
Me too.0 -
Yeah..although her intentions seem well, life isn't all fluffy clouds and rainbows, so for someone to assume someone should be optimistic everyday, well that will leave them with very few friends or quite a few fake ones. I am going through a divorce right now and I feel so overwhelmed most days, if I am positive, it is me faking it and that is only because I have 3 kids depending on me to hold myself together, so if she doesn't want to hear you on your bad days she doesn't deserve you on your good ones. Sorry, Id be annoyed to by that message. Hope things get better for you! *hugs*
This is exactly how I felt,she wasnt a friend Ive been here 5 weeks ,she doesnt know anything about my personal life as she didnt care to ask,the message wasnt supportive I never received any supportive ones from her no advice etc
This will be full of people saying tough love is good BUT I didnt deserve a message from a person who knows nothing about me,0 -
I'm sure the OP couldn't be more pleased with the way this is turning out.
OP, to many people, support doesn't equal agreeing with you all the time. To many of us, it means being told when we're not getting things right.
I feel that you posting this in the forums is actually worse than what your friend said.0 -
I know that we're all different; and although one may consider this message to be negative, another may perceive it to be constructive criticism. I personally think that this person's response is what I would want out of a real friend. One of my really good friends goes harder than this on me when I get down in the dumps...and it's just what I need to keep pushing forward. I don't need a 'yes' person on my team; I need someone who will keep it real.
If their response truly offended you, then I would say to unfriend them. But in my opinion, this is the type of person that you need on your team.0 -
What are you doing posting this? A private message is private. That's a pretty serious violation of trust, in my opinion. And a bit childish (harsh.. I know...) Adults handle private disputes in private. They don't drag a whole forum community into it.
And your friend is right. Attitude IS a huge part of weight loss.
Maybe your friend's approach was the wrong one for you... maybe you need more gentle handling, but that doesn't make the words less valuable. If I'd received a message like that, I hope that I personally would have taken a deep breath, evaluated my life, and made changes if I needed to make them.0 -
Personally, that sounds like a great friend. You on the other hand, not so much.
They took the time to send you a private message, which you could either heed or ignore. You in turn took that private message and posted it on the forum for others to read...and are whining at the "audacity" that your friend had in calling you out.0 -
She sounds like a good friend, but maybe she shouldn't have put it where everyone can see it0
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Shouldn't you ask yourself what you contributed to cause her though love response? From your profile it appears you joined in january of this year and you already have something close to 300 posts... in many of the recent ones you seem to be frustrated with your progress, but at the same time perhaps not taking the advice well. Obviously this is your journey and you can do with it as you see fit... but if you ask for feedback and you don't like what you hear should you really be getting frustrated in return? In my opinon, it's certainly not how it works around here... sometime you get what you give. Perhaps you should reflect on that.0
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I actually think that is a good one, and something I needed to hear today. I think I'd like to have this friend.0
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I think that is a supportive message, personally.
Same here. I know my friends would send me that kind of message if needed and that is why I love them0
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