Kellogg's study

pamelad77
pamelad77 Posts: 292 Member
edited November 12 in Food and Nutrition
Anyone else hear on the news this morning about the study Kellogg's have commissioned stating sugar is ok.

Apparently, according to them, it doesn't lead to obesity, heart disease, diabetes, behavioural problems in kids, nothing. It's fine to eat.

Just interested to see the details of the results.
After all, if it says a small amount daily is fine then I'd agree, but other than that???

Who knows, as the old quote goes, "lies, damn lies and statistics"
It's a well known fact you can manipulate figures to prove any point you want to.
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  • Elizadolots
    Elizadolots Posts: 178
    I am sad enough to watch 'Supernanny'! And I think she'll agree with the sugar not affecting kid's behaviour as such, it is usually the excitement that comes with it that makes for the behaviour! (Christmas, birthday, any party etc) All in moderation, I suppose! :bigsmile:
  • Swampstar
    Swampstar Posts: 102 Member
    It's been proven that sugar has absolutely no affect on childrens behaviour at all. Give a kid a packet of skittles and they'll go hyper because you've allowed them to eat sweets, give them a bag of placebos labelled as skittles and the same thing will happen...
  • tubbstattsyrup
    tubbstattsyrup Posts: 89 Member
    If I have sugar overload, I can feel it in my system. I know when the rush has passed because I feel tired and I crave more sugar. Sorry, but sugar is just empty calories and Kelloggs need the sales..
  • hippychickuk
    hippychickuk Posts: 93 Member
    I am a bit suspicious of Kellogg's commissioning the study. That's like Phillip Morris saying nicotine is not all that bad... But I'll wait to see the results. :wink:
  • If I have sugar overload, I can feel it in my system. I know when the rush has passed because I feel tired and I crave more sugar. Sorry, but sugar is just empty calories and Kelloggs need the sales..

    the rush you refer to would be from insulin which is why after eating refined carbs you crave them so quickly.
  • xraychick77
    xraychick77 Posts: 1,775 Member
    well that is true..its been known for a while..

    sugar isnt bad in itself....the only thing sugar can do is cause dental caries..and its empty calories.

    its what we put sugar in that is bad for us..candy bars, sodas etc..

    and its not the sugar that effects kids behaviour..its the CAFFIENE in the products that contain sugar.
  • Sl1ghtly
    Sl1ghtly Posts: 855 Member
    People want a boogy man to blame for all their troubles.

    I blame all my problems on Ross Perot.
  • aranchmom
    aranchmom Posts: 176 Member
    People want a boogy man to blame for all their troubles.

    I blame all my problems on Ross Perot.
    lol! :laugh: :laugh:
  • kateroot
    kateroot Posts: 435
    I'm not gonna trust anything that Kellogg's has to say about nutrition.

    What a joke.
  • pamelad77
    pamelad77 Posts: 292 Member
    Have a feeling that the summary will be something along the lines of

    As part of a well balanced diet, the sugar content of foods is irrelevant if consumed in appropriate amounts
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    all one has to do is google "fructose, carbs and belly fat" and sit back and read through study after study after study how those two items (which go hand in hand - higher sugar = higher carbs) cause a good % of weight problems...

    Of course Kellogs is going to say sugar is irrelevant...it is in everything they manufacture
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    all one has to do is google "fructose, carbs and belly fat" and sit back and read through study after study after study how those two items (which go hand in hand - higher sugar = higher carbs) cause a good % of weight problems...

    Of course Kellogs is going to say sugar is irrelevant...it is in everything they manufacture

    Agreed........

    Once again, most are going to jump on the band wagon and agree with Kelloggs as they are monetary supporters to their manufactured foods that allow people to be lazy.

    I am so glad I don't have this mindset.
  • KC4800
    KC4800 Posts: 140 Member
    I'm not gonna trust anything that Kellogg's has to say about nutrition.

    What a joke.

    Do you trust the nutritional information on the Raisin Bran side panel or is that a joke too?
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Anyone else hear on the news this morning about the study Kellogg's have commissioned stating sugar is ok.

    Apparently, according to them, it doesn't lead to obesity, heart disease, diabetes, behavioural problems in kids, nothing. It's fine to eat.

    Just interested to see the details of the results.
    After all, if it says a small amount daily is fine then I'd agree, but other than that???

    Who knows, as the old quote goes, "lies, damn lies and statistics"
    It's a well known fact you can manipulate figures to prove any point you want to.

    This is the sad thing, kelloggs is right. This is how things are misleading and inaccurate. If you eat about 1/2tsp a day, you think you'd suffer from the symptoms you listed? No, so "it's okay to eat." if you eat a pound of it a day... would your symptoms be different? Of course.

    In both cases you're "eating sugar"

    Refined sugar is not healthy. The nutrients have been stripped and are gone.

    HFCS is another subject all together.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I'm not gonna trust anything that Kellogg's has to say about nutrition.

    What a joke.

    Do you trust the nutritional information on the Raisin Bran side panel or is that a joke too?

    It is pretty much a joke. Calculations are off by at least 20-25%.

    I don't eat processed food any longer.
  • rdmchugh
    rdmchugh Posts: 76
    Can you really trust a study done by a major processed food supplier? Not me! BP also says there's no problems in the Gulf of Mexico...tell that the to shrimpers pulling up shrimp with no eyes.
  • NewTeena
    NewTeena Posts: 154 Member
    I am a bit suspicious of Kellogg's commissioning the study. That's like Phillip Morris saying nicotine is not all that bad... But I'll wait to see the results. :wink:
    The cigarette thing popped into my head as well. It's hard to believe a study done by a source that has an interest in selling a product.
  • ohnuts14
    ohnuts14 Posts: 197
    It's probably some stupid and ridiculous technical loop hole, definitely not true. Do you have a link? Because I googled it and couldn't find this study anywhere.
  • pamelad77
    pamelad77 Posts: 292 Member
    Don't have a link, they spoke about it on the news this morning and Chris evens on the breakfast show was on about it too
  • carpar1
    carpar1 Posts: 211 Member
    Kellogg's owns Kashi & Bear Naked........stick with the real sugar in fruits & vegetables.
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    Kellogg's owns Kashi & Bear Naked........stick with the real sugar in fruits & vegetables.

    Names to allow people to say they are eating healthy...and then wonder why they can't loose weight cause they are eating "healthy" - cause the box says so...
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Sugar on its own is not bad for you. Sugar does not cause any of those problems stated in the first post. Being overweight causes those problems. And eating too many calories causes you to be overweight. The amount of sugar is honestly irrelevant.

    The sooner you stop looking for one specific food to blame for your health problems, the sooner your health will improve.
  • kateroot
    kateroot Posts: 435
    I'm not gonna trust anything that Kellogg's has to say about nutrition.

    What a joke.

    Do you trust the nutritional information on the Raisin Bran side panel or is that a joke too?

    Nope, I don't. Nutritional information on processed foods is very loosely regulated and thus often misleading or just plain incorrect.
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    Sugar on its own is not bad for you. Sugar does not cause any of those problems stated in the first post. Being overweight causes those problems. And eating too many calories causes you to be overweight. The amount of sugar is honestly irrelevant.

    The sooner you stop looking for one specific food to blame for your health problems, the sooner your health will improve.

    How dare you be so reasonable!? If I want to vilify an entire food group or ingredient, I will, lack of evidence be damned!

    sigh.
  • Sugar on its own is not bad for you. Sugar does not cause any of those problems stated in the first post. Being overweight causes those problems. And eating too many calories causes you to be overweight. The amount of sugar is honestly irrelevant.

    The sooner you stop looking for one specific food to blame for your health problems, the sooner your health will improve.

    YEP!!! :)
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    Sugar on its own is not bad for you. Sugar does not cause any of those problems stated in the first post. Being overweight causes those problems. And eating too many calories causes you to be overweight. The amount of sugar is honestly irrelevant.

    The sooner you stop looking for one specific food to blame for your health problems, the sooner your health will improve.

    yes eating to many calories can cause you to be overweight...but too much FRUCTOSE sugar (which also increases carb count) can cause fat - specifially belly fat.

    And yes everything in moderation - if you have a bowl of cereal a day and eat clean the rest of the time it isn't a big deal...but for someone who's diet is full of processed foods - even most "diet" foods contain a small amount of High FRUCTOSE sugar...

    The thing here is reading and learning about the different types of sugars and how they react within your body - there are three main types - Glucose, Fructose and Sucrose - Sucrose is made up of roughly 1/2 Fructose and 1/2 Glucose...

    So if you are saying the sugar in a bowl of cereal is the same as the sugar in an apple - that can be very wrong depending on the TYPE of Fructose corn syrup they use - some have 50% fructose to 50% glucose - where others have most of the sugars coming from Fructose

    The information out there is misleading in a way - one backlash was against High fructose Corn Syrup being bad for you as COMPARED to regular sugar - when you compare the most used formuation of High Fructose Corn Syrup to regular sugar (which is Sucrose) they are not wrong is saying it is about the same - meaning the ratios of glucose, fructose are about the same...

    And to say just having HFCS or regular sugar is bad for you isn't wrong...

    But the thing is - since it is in allllll sorts of things the average person consumes WAY to much sugar (in any of the forms) which can increase calories and carbs which can lead to weight gain and the development of body fat (especially belly fat)

    so one is right - what is the difference in eating an apple vs a ding dong if they both have the same amount of sugar (besides all the other chemicals that are in a ding dong that I won't delve into) - if that is the bulk of your sugar for the day then not so much a big deal...but you have some cereal in the morning and then some 100 calorie bag of Loorna Doones (cause hey they are only 100 calories) and then for lunch you have a turkey sandwich and a granola bar....etc...each of those things has sugars in them - from the cereal to the bread - so you are stacking suger up little by little by little so you are consuming so much sugar in any given day...
  • gsager
    gsager Posts: 977 Member
    Sugar isn't the enemy, our excessive behavior is the problem....there are no witches....well that may not be true but sugar isn't bad for you unless you're diabetic.
  • treetop57
    treetop57 Posts: 1,578 Member
    This is the only news I could find that seems to relate to a sugar study by Kellogg.
    Kellogg's slammed for saying sugar is not related to obesity or ill-health
    By Sean Poulter, Consumer Affairs Editor

    Kellogg's has been censured by the [British] advertising watchdog after it falsely claimed that sugar is not related to obesity or ill-health.

    The firm had attempted to counter criticism from health groups over the high levels of sugar in its cereals by publishing information on its Coco Pops website that was supposed to tell children the truth about the ingredient.

    But the Advertising Standards Authority has now ruled that this health information was misleading.

    Kellogg’s said an independent dietician had gathered medical evidence from a World Health Organisation committee.

    The Coco Pops website claimed: ‘A panel of world health experts recently reviewed all the scientific evidence and concluded that a high sugar intake is not related to obesity, or the development of diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure or cancer.

    'Nor was it connected to behavioural problems, such as hyperactivity, in children.’

    But in fact a number of scientific reviews have found a relationship between sugar intake and obesity, the ASA said. It therefore ruled that Kellogg’s claim that there was no link at all was ‘misleading’, as was its claim there was no link with diabetes. . . .

    More here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2111294/Kelloggs-slammed-saying-sugar-related-obesity-ill-health.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
  • Cr357
    Cr357 Posts: 238
    I am a bit suspicious of Kellogg's commissioning the study. That's like Phillip Morris saying nicotine is not all that bad... But I'll wait to see the results. :wink:
    This ^^^^ always be weary of who does the study or if they have a conflict of interest (such as a patent).
  • Lane1012
    Lane1012 Posts: 211 Member
    82% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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