my exercise plan

BeautyFromPain
BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
edited November 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
M: 30 day shred. 45-60minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
T: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio
W: 30 day shred, 45-60 minutes cardio
T: 45-60 minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
F: Pilates
S: 30 day shred. 30 minutes full body weights.
S: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio.

Do you think this is a good plan? Is it too much?
Do you think it is better to do 3 whole body days or 3 days for separate muscle groups? (Biceps/chest, shoulders/back, legs/abs)
Also, do you think it's better to do no cardio (other than 30 day shred and warmup) on weights days?

Replies

  • jozev
    jozev Posts: 27
    You're definitely going to need rest days, you'll hurt yourself if you don't give your muscles any time to repair themselves!
  • Mostly BUMP reply, but please try to find time to read New Rules On Lifting For Women. I think it would help with a lot of the things I see you asking about in the forums :) xo
  • BeautyFromPain
    BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
    You're definitely going to need rest days, you'll hurt yourself if you don't give your muscles any time to repair themselves!

    That would be friday when I just do pilates? Active rest is better than non active rest.
  • DrNicoleRed
    DrNicoleRed Posts: 52 Member
    I personally would not spend more than an hour per day on anything. Because 30 day shred includes some strength moves, I would just get rid of that if you are planning to do traditional weight lifting. Use 30DS as a back up for the days to get a total body workout on days you don't make it to the gym, but want to do something. If you do whole body weights, then 2-3x per week is enough. If you split (front/back or upper body/lower body) then you could probably do a 4 day per week rotation (A, B, rest, A, B, rest, rest) for the strength training. You can do yoga/pilates for the "rest" days.
  • freezerburn2012
    freezerburn2012 Posts: 273 Member
    M: 30 day shred. 45-60minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    T: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio
    W: 30 day shred, 45-60 minutes cardio
    T: 45-60 minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    F: Pilates
    S: 30 day shred. 30 minutes full body weights.
    S: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio.

    Do you think this is a good plan? Is it too much?
    Do you think it is better to do 3 whole body days or 3 days for separate muscle groups? (Biceps/chest, shoulders/back, legs/abs)
    Also, do you think it's better to do no cardio (other than 30 day shred and warmup) on weights days?


    What was your workout plan before this? If you weren't doing much activity before, I would work up to this amount to avoid the risk of injury or burnout.

    I like following a P90X type philosophy: alternate weight days with cardio days and focus on one group of muscles at a time. Eg: this week I did Legs & Back, Shoulders & Arms, Chest & Back (each an hour long workout and never two consecutive days). The other four days I do yoga or swim or bike or run. :smile:
  • lisa28115
    lisa28115 Posts: 17,271 Member
    I AGREE ... U NEED SOME REST DAYS TO LET YOUR BODY REPAIR:bigsmile:
  • DrNicoleRed
    DrNicoleRed Posts: 52 Member
    Also, I've been really interested in the 5 dimensions of fitness: Body composition (fat vs. lean-->this is mostly where the nutrition part comes in), cardiovascular endurance, muscle endurance (low weights high reps), muscle strength (high weights low reps), and flexibility. For your 45-60 minutes cardio…if you consider high intensity interval training (HIIT), it may shorten your workout time with the same benefit.
  • mmk137
    mmk137 Posts: 833 Member
    i agree alternate cardio days with resistance training days.

    why do you feel to do 30day shred and then more cardio?

    if 30 day shred is not enough fair enough. but if you do that, you would burn out.

    and pilates is still exercise. yeah sure it's non active but you still are not giving yourself a proper NO exercise day.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    M: 30 day shred. 45-60minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    T: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio
    W: 30 day shred, 45-60 minutes cardio
    T: 45-60 minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    F: Pilates
    S: 30 day shred. 30 minutes full body weights.
    S: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio.

    Do you think this is a good plan? Is it too much?
    Do you think it is better to do 3 whole body days or 3 days for separate muscle groups? (Biceps/chest, shoulders/back, legs/abs)
    Also, do you think it's better to do no cardio (other than 30 day shred and warmup) on weights days?

    Too much cardio. Create a deficit through your diet, not cardio.
  • lisakyle_11
    lisakyle_11 Posts: 420 Member
    You're definitely going to need rest days, you'll hurt yourself if you don't give your muscles any time to repair themselves!

    That would be friday when I just do pilates? Active rest is better than non active rest.

    I personally would not consider Pilates as a 'rest' day. I think you should have a full rest day in there...you could take a nice, long walk maybe?
  • BeautyFromPain
    BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
    M: 30 day shred. 45-60minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    T: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio
    W: 30 day shred, 45-60 minutes cardio
    T: 45-60 minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    F: Pilates
    S: 30 day shred. 30 minutes full body weights.
    S: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio.

    Do you think this is a good plan? Is it too much?
    Do you think it is better to do 3 whole body days or 3 days for separate muscle groups? (Biceps/chest, shoulders/back, legs/abs)
    Also, do you think it's better to do no cardio (other than 30 day shred and warmup) on weights days?


    What was your workout plan before this? If you weren't doing much activity before, I would work up to this amount to avoid the risk of injury or burnout.

    I like following a P90X type philosophy: alternate weight days with cardio days and focus on one group of muscles at a time. Eg: this week I did Legs & Back, Shoulders & Arms, Chest & Back (each an hour long workout and never two consecutive days). The other four days I do yoga or swim or bike or run. :smile:

    My workout plan was pre much lifting full body every second day and cardio every day cept for one day off. Trying to incorporate the 30 day shred in, just started yesterday. My body feels pre worn out so took a week off heavy lifting and intense cardio and wanna make more structure within my plan :)

    Thinking I might try the P90X philosophy... sounds good :)
  • BeautyFromPain
    BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
    i agree alternate cardio days with resistance training days.

    why do you feel to do 30day shred and then more cardio?

    if 30 day shred is not enough fair enough. but if you do that, you would burn out.

    and pilates is still exercise. yeah sure it's non active but you still are not giving yourself a proper NO exercise day.
    most days i have school which requires cardio i cannot get out of..
  • auntiebabs
    auntiebabs Posts: 1,754 Member
    I recently read that your body builds muscle on the rest days... I wish I'd saved the link.

    I have a very fit friend who is about 10 older than I am and he's always done 2 days on, 1 day off...
  • taryn_09
    taryn_09 Posts: 196 Member
    definitely would say to much cardio. to much cardio = skinny fat later on.
    i would one give your body a legit rest day, and cut the cardio to only an hour only and make resistance 2-3 times. no need to put your body through so much. plus keep in mind all the extra calories your burning.. you'd have to eat a good chunk back to keep the deficit not too drastic so you're able to see the results still.

    try intervals on cardio if you want something really challenging :D
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    bump for math example to follow.
  • Pebble321
    Pebble321 Posts: 6,423 Member
    I'm not sure how sustainable that would be in the long term - 1-2 hours exercise every day just isn't necessary to get you looking and feeling great. I'd suggest breaking it up a little, max one hour every day and take an actual rest day each week.
    Your muscles are going to be working hard on that rest day to repair and get stronger, it's not a wasted day!
  • Every time you push your muscles with strength training you do damage to the muscles. It is important to rest so that they can rebuild, get stronger, so that you can damage them again. When you do too much strength training you cause damage on top of damage and it catches up with you. 3 days of strength training a week is ideal, 2 is okay and 1 is not enough. Any more than 3 is too much.

    As for cardio, as your course has you doing so much of it I don't think it's very beneficial to be doing so much INTENSE cardio on your own time. Pilates/walks/swimming is low-impact so you aren't pushing yourself very hard. You need to let your body rest & at least one day a week completely rest, perhaps designate a study day to catch up on theory work or something?
  • BeautyFromPain
    BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
    M: 30 day shred. 45-60minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    T: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio
    W: 30 day shred, 45-60 minutes cardio
    T: 45-60 minutes cardio. 30 minutes full body weights.
    F: Pilates
    S: 30 day shred. 30 minutes full body weights.
    S: 30 day shred. 45-60 minutes cardio.

    Do you think this is a good plan? Is it too much?
    Do you think it is better to do 3 whole body days or 3 days for separate muscle groups? (Biceps/chest, shoulders/back, legs/abs)
    Also, do you think it's better to do no cardio (other than 30 day shred and warmup) on weights days?

    Too much cardio. Create a deficit through your diet, not cardio.

    Okay so how about :

    M: 30 day shred + legs and back
    T: 30 day shred + 30 minutes low intensity cardio
    W: 30 day shred + 30 minutes low intensity cardio
    T: shoulders and arms + pilates
    F: rest
    S: 30 day shred + chest and back
    S: 30 day shred + 30 minutes HIIT training
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Okay so how about :

    M: 30 day shred + legs and back
    T: 30 day shred + 30 minutes HIIT training
    W: 30 day shred + 30 minutes HIIT training
    T: shoulders + arms
    F: Pilates
    S: 30 day shred + chest and back
    S: 30 day shred + 30 minutes HIIT training

    So what happens to glucose stores on intense work outs and calorie deficit diets?
    And how does that effect your body's source of fuel?
    When glucose runs out, muscle is only thing that can be broken down to supply it.
    What is in the muscle stores can NOT be put into the bloodstream to keep blood sugar levels where the body wants them as fuel for brain. And muscles stores are secondary to what is in the liver.
    Upon refill, liver is first, muscle is second if any left over. If all that is full, then to fat.

    Eating 1700, doesn't appear to eat back exercise calories usually, so that simplifies the math, and decent 200 cal worth of carbs it appears on avg.

    Starting on Saturday after this supposed "rest day" of pilates, we'll pretend your glucose stores got filled up because of no cardio, so liver 400 cal and muscle 1500 cal worth of glucose storage.

    Carb % expenditure on exercise and replacement by food. Effects from multiple day intense workouts.
    Assumptions based on fact energy is supplied by fat and carbs, with ratio going to carbs as you move from rest to anaerobic state.
    30DS is intense and 70% carbs.
    HIIT is 100% carbs briefly down to 60% carbs during recovery. Calling it 70% too.
    Weights is 100% carbs during lifts, recovery time less. Calling it 60% and that is generous.
    Not including ANY other daily activity, which of course even the BMR takes 30% carbs while sleeping, all other light activity is between 40-50% carb usage.

    Sat:
    500 @ 70% = 350
    250 @ 60% = 150
    Eat 200.

    Liver 400 - 350 = 50 (Liver would have dropped low enough during anytime to kick in muscle breakdown. And eaten carbs wouldn't have even topped the liver off.) + 200 = 250
    Muscle 1500-150= 1350

    Sun:
    500 @ 70% = 350
    300 @ 70% = 210
    Eat 200.

    Liver 250 - 350 (Liver empty again, muscle breakdown for whatever the body needs until next eating) + 200 = 200
    Muscle 1350 - 100 (liver couldn't supply) - 210 = 1040

    Mon:
    500 @ 70% = 350
    250 @ 60% = 150
    Eat 200.

    Liver 200 - 350 (this again) + 200 = 200
    Muscle 1040 - 150 (this again) - 150 = 740

    Tue:
    500 @ 70% = 350
    300 @ 70% = 210
    Eat 200.

    Liver 200 - 350 (again) + 200 = 200
    Muscle 740 - 150 (again) - 210 = 380

    Wed:
    500 @ 70% = 350
    300 @ 70% = 210
    Eat 200.

    Liver 200 - 350 (again) + 200 = 200
    Muscle 380 - 150 (again) - 210 = 20

    Thu:
    250 @ 60% = 150

    Liver 200 - 150 + 200 = 250
    Muscle 20

    Fri:
    Pilates "non-workout"

    Here's what is interesting with this math - this is actually generous on the safety side of the worse not happening.
    On each of those days, you have good 150 carbs used just by the brain.
    Plus all the other activity.

    Result on most of those days, the already depleted liver stores can't keep the blood sugar up during or after the workout. Muscle must be broken down to supply that.
    During this whole glucose depletion, you will lose glucose and water weight. 1500 cal of glucose weighs 3 lbs.
    The muscle broken down only needs to provide 600 cal in a week for 1 lb to be lost through that.
    Oh, it won't be the muscle you are working out (which has no fuel to grow it either), but other muscle.

    Just suggesting by this math - eat back your exercise calories, and with that intense, you need 2 rest days.
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