Rant: It's Week 4

ellesoul
ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
It's week 4... I'm still huge... still in the same clothes... may have lots an inch or so, but that's it... its unbelievable

5 days/week in the gym (2-3 with weights, 5 cardio)... 7 days/week body aching... constant calorie monitoring... still nothing

I know I can't quit because it won't get me anywhere, but this is insane...

I'm pissed... like I can't even get a lb?? looser pants? SOMETHING?!

How is it possible that people just give up soda and lose weight... I haven't had soda in YEARS (with the exception of a diet here and there)

I've combed through the forums... Not sure what else to do... I can't afford to invest any more money in this (HR monitors, scales, etc.). Medically I'm fine (no thyroid, etc. problems)

Sure the increased stamina and strength is great, but WHERE are the visual results?!
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  • IveLanded
    IveLanded Posts: 797 Member
    well since you posted, I'll offer some suggestions....

    1) Honestly I've found with myself and most of my friends that they put in the bare minimum effort when working out at the gym. And often times people think they only need to do the bare minimum for 30 minutes and they are good. I started taking classes and it has been my saving grace....I realized that I wasn't pushing myself as hard I could, and a huge key to weight loss from exercise is getting your heart rate up for prolonged periods of time. I only started seeing results when I was working out for an hour or more at a time and working out hard.

    2) I peeked at your diary and you have a LOT of carbs and extra sugars in your diet that you could cut. It's not necessarily for everyone....but maybe you need a drastic diet change. Not merely cutting calories but changing how you put food into your body all together. Again, for me, I only started to see results when I started eating RADICALLY different.

    good luck
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
    2000 calories seems like a lot for a woman even if you are active...
    I agree that you should eat more meat/vegetables and cut out the extra carbs and sugars. Granola bars are basically candy. Junk food is ok as an occasional treat but it seems to make it into your daily diet.
  • JayByrd107
    JayByrd107 Posts: 282 Member
    The greater portion of the battle with weight loss is diet and less so about exercise. IveLanded gave you some good advice - watch what you eat, cut out all extra sugar, and kick you *kitten* in the gym.
  • motherbetty
    motherbetty Posts: 170 Member
    Water - drink lots of water. I never believed it until I increased my water intake to a minimum of 8 glasses each day.

    Good luck and keep on keeping on. It will happen.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    I was also going to suggest making sure you get at least 8 cups of water per day, 10-12 on the days you're active.

    I'd also add sodium to your tracker. A few high sodium days can make a HUGE difference. If you have a high sodium day, up the water intake even more.

    MIght be time to re-evaluate your workouts too. According to your profile, you were already somewhat active but have kicked up the number of days. That's a good start but I think you also need to kick up the intensity. Add incline and speed to your walks. If you're using other machines, increase the resistance, level and/or incline once per week. Also, make sure you're increasing your weights with your strength training. If you do the same thing all the time, your body gets used to it, like it becomes more like normal daily activity. Mixing up your workouts guarantees that the body will keep responding with good calorie burn.

    Best of luck!
  • purpleipod
    purpleipod Posts: 1,147 Member
    How much of a difference were you expecting in 4 weeks? This isn't a quick process. Just keep going at it and it will eventually happen.
  • Guitarjon
    Guitarjon Posts: 204 Member
    As suggested, check out your sodium levels. Sodium seems to be the main thing that really hinders my weightloss. Stay hydrated all of the time to ensure you are flushing out the sodium. Big fan of water, other than sweat, a lot of fat and crap comes out of your body through your wee.
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    maybe it's the carbs and junk... i try my best to eat healthy but I guess it's not enough

    my workouts outs are pretty intense as it is... for eg. my elliptical workouts are on resistance 12-18... never less unless im warming up or cooling down...

    and mentally I can't do the same workout everyday...

    I'll try upping meats/vegetables...
  • taramaureen
    taramaureen Posts: 569 Member
    Honestly your cals look pretty high. It looks like you're eating back your workout calories. While that's all well and good if they're accurate, they may not be. I'd stop doing that, up my water intake and add in some fresh fruits and veggies.
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    ive tried to not eat back my workout calories, but I'm always hungry... I guess I need to try to find lower cal and lower carb meals/snacks....
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    Good that you recognized your food issues. If you are putting the wrong things in your body, you will gain weight or at best, maintain. Lack of nutrients can cause over-eating, and carbohydrates in excess is a recipe for disaster. Try to keep your macros in compliance.


    The other thing no one mentioned so far is measuring your food. It's not good enough to say "One portion" of something. You need to be measuring and/or weighing your food with a food scale. If you are eating mostly packaged, processed food, that is a whole other problem, and you definitely need to steer toward whole foods.
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    water Ive always drank plenty of... so water isn't an issue...

    so: lower carb, more fruits/veggies, avoid eating workout calories, monitor sodium

    theres so much involved in weight loss smh
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    cmriverside:

    I cook for dinner often and use measuring utensils... is that not enough?

    Like I mentioned before, I can't really afford any other tools (scales, HRMs, etc.)... wish I could, but I can't at the moment

    ... i didn't think i was eating many processed foods... other than breads, cheese, yogurt... (had chips last night which was bad, i know), and my meal replacement/protein shake

    maybe looking into examples of what other people are doing with 1500 cals, low carb, will help...
  • jcpmoore
    jcpmoore Posts: 796 Member
    I'll second the more water and more fruits and vegetables in your diet. Both will help fill you and increase your fiber. I always track fiber on my diary so I know what I'm getting. Try to always fill half your plate with vegetables at any given meal and I think you'll find that the craving for carbs goes down. Then make sure the grains you eat are whole grains. All that will help you to cut down on the bad calories.

    It all takes time, which is frustrating, but you *will* get there. Keep up the great work!
  • Kagard11
    Kagard11 Posts: 396 Member
    I'm guilty of the processed food/high carb pitfalls. I love my wine and junk food! I try to keep my cals within, but haven't gotten great results lately because of the bad habits. I'm WAY more successful when I don't eat it/drink it.
  • JayByrd107
    JayByrd107 Posts: 282 Member
    If you are always hungry, try ditching the carbs and go for more healthy fats, lean protein, and fiber (vegetables). For the same amount of calories as your high-carb ~400 cal breakfast, I have an omelette consisting of 3 eggs, 1 60g link of chicken sausage, 125g of zuchinni, 25g spinach, and another 50g or so of other vegetables, plus about an ounce total of milk/cheese. I eat that at about 7:30 am and am good to go until lunch, about 5-6 hours later. Healthy, nutrient-dense is what you want.

    Also, weighing your food is much more accurate than measuring volumes (thus my stuff is all in grams above). Get a kitchen scale and you'll be more precise.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    cmriverside:

    I cook for dinner often and use measuring utensils... is that not enough?

    Like I mentioned before, I can't really afford any other tools (scales, HRMs, etc.)... wish I could, but I can't at the moment

    ... i didn't think i was eating many processed foods... other than breads, cheese, yogurt... (had chips last night which was bad, i know), and my meal replacement/protein shake

    maybe looking into examples of what other people are doing with 1500 cals, low carb, will help...

    You cook for dinner? Excellent. Try bringing your lunch, and having breakfast at home in the morning.

    A food scale is one of the best investments I ever made. $15-20. If you don't eat out two days this week, you've paid for it. It really is that important.

    I've been eating low(er) carb and 1500 cals for a year. I only have a few pounds extra right now, and I'm much older than you. Just try to stick with Protein, Fats, and THEN Carbs. I keep my Carbs around 100 a day. It is the only thing that has worked for me. I no longer crave the breads and crackers and cookies and sugars like I used to. Protein and Fat are super important.

    There are lots of sites to educate you on food choices. Try MarksDailyApple for instance....or Google low(er) carb diets. You don't want to eliminate carbs, just stop with the sugary, bready choices. You need carbs.

    Weight loss happens in the kitchen. It's about the right food choices.

    Oh, and EAT those exercise calories. This site is designed for you to do this.

    .
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    JayByrd107

    I've for the most part I've kept my breakfast in the 200s everyday (usually a shake and fruit)... if i get up any earlier just to make breakfast, I'll be down to 5 or 6 hours of sleep, which can't happen because I'm already struggling to hit 6-7 hours... and I could make the food the night before before, but I HATE microwaved food... i don't even own a microwave..

    maybe eventually I can invest in a scale, but right now it's not in the budget...

    I'll try to figure out something to up my veggies... maybe force myself to eat them raw throughout the day :-&
  • chachita7
    chachita7 Posts: 996 Member
    Couldn't see your sodium intake so that might be an issue.

    how intense are your workouts? how heavy are you lifting?
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    I'd like to suggest that maybe you are doing 2 things incorrectly-

    1.) you are under-estimating your calorie intake or over estimating your calories burned. If you are in a caloric deficit you should be losing. Period.

    Or

    2.) you are overtraining. Edit: what I mean by that is not allowing a sufficient amount of time for muscle repair. You mention constantly being sore. If you are not allowing proper time for muscles to repair how are they getting stronger? They are also likely retaining a **** ton of water.

    You would be surprised what counting every item that you intake and exercising 3 times a week can do.
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    i know whats heatlhy and not...

    it just amazes me that people sneak in oreos, ice cream, etc... none of which I eat... and are losing tons of pounds...

    I don't plan to eliminate carbs completely (especially my daily granola bar, ther's no way I'm cutting that)... but I'll try to avoid the other stuff (rice, regular bread - i recently bought ezekiel bread that I have to try , etc.
  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    rainbowbow

    I always underestimate calories burned... i usually shave off 50 of what the machine says or what MFP says I've burned... but I think that evens it out since most people say neither are accurate

    I also don't include the 1/2 - 1 mile walk to and from home that I do everyday
  • Faintgreeneyes
    Faintgreeneyes Posts: 729 Member
    Here is just my .02 worth. You could be over estimating how many calories you are burning, and under estimating how many calories you are actually eating!

    I am on a 1500 cal a day diet now- which for me is set to lose .5 lbs a week. What is your weight loss set at? 2 lbs a week? 1lb? perhaps change that up if you find that you are still hungry eating all those cals without eating back your exercise calories. I know that I do not normally eat back my exercise cals, because I am not sure of the accuracy of them. I like to leave myself a little cushion just in case.

    I am far from being the perfect, healthy eater- but if you want take a look at my diary if you want some suggestions on some foods to eat. I love having a salad at lunch, lots of veggies, and I feel full. I will also add in a hard boiled egg, or some other protein, like lunch meat but leave the bread out.

    Some people it takes a little bit of time to see any major change. Don't beat yourself up over it. Know that you are making the right steps to live a healthy and active life. Everything else will fall into place eventually. :)

    Good luck!
  • jsapninz
    jsapninz Posts: 909 Member
    It's gotta be your caloric intake. I highly doubt it's water related to water after four weeks (c'mon you guys!).
    You are either eating too many or way too little (starvation mode).
    Let's assume you are eating too many: it's simple math = eat less than you burn and you have to lose weight. That's why we all can "sneak" orios and stuff, as long as you stay under your caloric intake, you are good. (although, you might want to make sure you are getting enough of everything healthy!!)

    I would suggest taking a hard look at your BMR, TDEE, etc and adjusting them. (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/512956-tdee-what-is-it-and-why-you-should-not-eat-below-your-) is helpful.
    If that is too complex, just try dropping your daily caloric limit by 250 cals, stick that way for a week (that's about half a pound a week less). See how you are from there, and then drop another 250 if necessary. But don't shoot for losing more than 2 lbs a week.

    And yeah, be careful eating back your exercise calories, yeah you should but usually "calories burned" is usually generous on MFP, so be conservative.

    You SHOULDN'T eliminate carbs completely. Use your MFP goals for it as a guide, just MAKE SURE you are getting enough protien and not too much fats.
  • TinkrBelz
    TinkrBelz Posts: 866 Member
    Elle...I made my diary public. You can look at it.

    I have to eat simple because I hate to cook. I have just added some more fruits and vegis back into my diet.

    I am trying to keep carbs around the 100-120 range and my protein around the 150 range.

    I eat my oatmeal (love it) but I did cut out breads and granola bars. Maybe eat a protein bar...I love mine!

    My diary is not perfect by any means...but it can give you something to look at and get some simple ideas. Also, I cheat on Friday...so if you look on Fridays....it is bad!! And sometimes I mildly cheat on Saturday!! ;)
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    I would go into your goals and change your carbs/protein/fat ratio to 40/30/30 and really bump up your protein. If you can, ditch the gnc shake for a lower calorie one with much higher protein. Mine is 100 calories a scoop with 22 grams of protein. Fills me up a lot. You have a nice selection of foods! Try not eating back all the calories...I did that too and couldn't lose even though I was busting *kitten* at the gym. A food scale is very affordable. Under 20 bucks. When you are able to, definitely give that a try. I'm sorry you're having a hard time. I totally understand!
  • getsveltEagain
    getsveltEagain Posts: 1,063 Member
    2000 calories seems like a lot for a woman even if you are active...
    I agree that you should eat more meat/vegetables and cut out the extra carbs and sugars. Granola bars are basically candy. Junk food is ok as an occasional treat but it seems to make it into your daily diet.

    I routinely eat close to 2000 a day and lose pretty consitantly. I have my goal set at 1920 and am seeing between 1/2 a pound to 1 pound a week. I am in the last 15 - 20 pounds so I want that slow and steady drop.

    I recommend looking into the sodium you are eating. That was a big shocker to me! I have worked hard to get more fruits and veggies in my diet and that is working for me. But then again it has taken me a long time to get this right :wink:

    Hope this helps!
  • mrscewinters
    mrscewinters Posts: 38 Member
    My husband and I had gasteric sleeve surgery in December. We learned so very much about nutrition that I had never thought of. There are two giant helpers! One is the order that you eat your foods. Protein first, then non-starch veggies, then fruit, then starches and bread. It really helps you fill up on the right things first so you don't eat as much of the "other" choices. The hardest one to learn was NOT to drink with meals, including 10 minutes before and 30 minute after. By not drinking you don't wash your food through your system faster. I honestly thought it was crazy and I couldn't do it, but when I spoke with the Nurse Practitioner (sp) she told me to give it my best and I stopped feeling like I was starving all the time! For me the sleeve makes my tummy "prime real estate." SO every bite counts. Also, a behavior counselor said this. Hunger is not accuratly measureable. Think of eating as nutritional oportunities and set measureable goals. Ex: protien count, calories, limited carbs. Good luck to everyone this is one of the hardest things I have ever tackled!
  • bj6886
    bj6886 Posts: 60 Member
    DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert on weight loss.

    I did notice that you consumed cheese almost daily sometimes twice a day. For some folks cheese makes no difference. I have to watch the amount of cheese. For some odd reason, it slows down / stalls my weigh loss.
  • well since you posted, I'll offer some suggestions....

    1) Honestly I've found with myself and most of my friends that they put in the bare minimum effort when working out at the gym. And often times people think they only need to do the bare minimum for 30 minutes and they are good. I started taking classes and it has been my saving grace....I realized that I wasn't pushing myself as hard I could, and a huge key to weight loss from exercise is getting your heart rate up for prolonged periods of time. I only started seeing results when I was working out for an hour or more at a time and working out hard.

    2) I peeked at your diary and you have a LOT of carbs and extra sugars in your diet that you could cut. It's not necessarily for everyone....but maybe you need a drastic diet change. Not merely cutting calories but changing how you put food into your body all together. Again, for me, I only started to see results when I started eating RADICALLY different.

    good luck

    This is soooo true!! I still eat the same amount of calories but the last couple weeks I have really watched my salt intake and lowered my carb intake. A friend of mine that is on here, she has lost a lot of weight and looks amazing. I asked her what I should do to help me lose weight and she said for sure watch my sodium intake and also to set my food diary so that it is 40% Carbs, 45% protein, 15%fat and 2500 sodium. Since I have done this along with upping my exercising, I try to burn 500 or more calories a day and do a lot of cardio and I have noticed a difference. My friend also told me to eat my carbs in the morning or at lunch but after that try to limit your carb intake at supper. Good luck and hang in there!!!!
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