Crazy Laws!!!

Um, what? But it's just a bill at this point, right? So it hasn't passed. Even if it does pass I don't think it would be upheld because it seems unconstitutional. And furthermore, the only way they would know if you are taking it would be if they obtained your medical records. It seems highly unlikely that it would be found lawful to disclose such medical information to your employer since it has nothing to do with work, it's not workers comp or something.

Um, what? But it's just a bill at this point, right? So it hasn't passed. Even if it does pass I don't think it would be upheld because it seems unconstitutional. And furthermore, the only way they would know if you are taking it would be if they obtained your medical records. It seems highly unlikely that it would be found lawful to disclose such medical information to your employer since it has nothing to do with work, it's not workers comp or something.

Yes u are correct its just a bill for right now and i completely agree its unconstitutional and gender discrimination so im hoping it doesnt pas. If it does i can already smell the lawsuits. Itay mot be workers comp bt if they are using their insurance then it applies

Thats stupid.........what you do and take are your own personal business between you and your doctor.........it has NOTHING to do with your work

What the **** happened to separation of church and state?

Where did separation of church and state ever come from to begin with?

Anyway, to answer the original question....Arkansas law banning smoking in a car with someone 14 years or younger. First it's no one's business (even though unfortunately unhealthy) and second, how in the world is it even enforceable?

What the **** happened to separation of church and state?

Where did separation of church and state ever come from to begin with?

Anyway, to answer the original question....Arkansas law banning smoking in a car with someone 14 years or younger. First it's no one's business (even though unfortunately unhealthy) and second, how in the world is it even enforceable?

The term "a wall of seperation between church and state" was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Church..

and to the original post... I really don't see how this can be enforced, especially since no one but you, your doctor, the insurance company (if you buy it with your insurance), the primary insurance holder (if it isn't you) and the pharmacy are the only people that have access to whether or not you have a perscription for birth control... This is just a totally stupid bill that serves no purpose other than to shove a wedge into voters...

Um, what? But it's just a bill at this point, right? So it hasn't passed. Even if it does pass I don't think it would be upheld because it seems unconstitutional. And furthermore, the only way they would know if you are taking it would be if they obtained your medical records. It seems highly unlikely that it would be found lawful to disclose such medical information to your employer since it has nothing to do with work, it's not workers comp or something.

Yes u are correct its just a bill for right now and i completely agree its unconstitutional and gender discrimination so im hoping it doesnt pas. If it does i can already smell the lawsuits. Itay mot be workers comp bt if they are using their insurance then it applies

Yeah, but just because you have medical insurance through your employer doesn't mean they can access your medial information without it directly relating to work. They could carry an insurance that doesn't cover birth control, but your workplace can't just access medical records that have no direct bearing on your job, whether through worker's comp or a medical condition that affects your job performance. Otherwise they could have access to things like info on whose taking meds for mental illness, etc, and that's simply not legal. Even if it passed, I just see no way it could be upheld. Plus, if the ACA does go through in 2014, then workplaces that continue to provide insurance will be required to provide insurance that covers birth control as far as I remember (unless they are a purely religious institution).

What the **** happened to separation of church and state?

Where did separation of church and state ever come from to begin with?

Anyway, to answer the original question....Arkansas law banning smoking in a car with someone 14 years or younger. First it's no one's business (even though unfortunately unhealthy) and second, how in the world is it even enforceable?

In Victoria, Australia it is illegal to smoke with a child in the car. It is enforceable the same way as talking on your mobile phone while driving or whatever, if the police see you you are done and it has been done! I think it's a fair enough call with the kids though, why should they have to breath that in.

I need to get out of arizona these laws are getting so ridiculous! Guess what the new one is?? Well its HB 2625 and basically if you're a woman taking birth control in order to prevent pregnancy then you're boss can fire you unless you can provide proof that its for health reasons. All im saying is they need to start checking people for Cranial Rectal Inverson most commonly know as someone with their head up their a*s before they let them run for office.

do you know who came up with that one? I have a friend who is a state rep here in Glendale

So, your employer would fire you for taking birth control, to prevent having a child, which in the long run would cost them money?? (Maternity leave, child sick days, child drama....etc)

I would think that businesses would be PAYING for and ENCOURAGING women to plan responsibily.

I totally agree with you on this one.

It's just like the whole seat belt law. I agree that everyone should wear their seatbelt, but there are those that don't, or are too large for the seat belt to go around. It's hit and miss for the people who get busted for it. They can't totally enforce it, just like they can't totally enforce not smoking around minors. How many 14 and 15 year olds look dang near grown?

Just like with the birth control. Unless they have a way to get around the HIPPA violation, they can't up hold it. That is a violation of a person's privacy, period.

I don't know what it is with the government try to pass all these laws AGAINST womens health care, but it's seriously pointless. especially with all of the people on welfare, you'd think the governent would want to keep us from producing. On a side note(and a much dumber one) someone recently told me that every time I take a birth control pill, I have an abortion. It's that kind of ignorance we have to thank for all of these anti-conraceptive people we have running around.

I think so. It is rediculous the words that come out of people's mouths.

On a side note(and a much dumber one) someone recently told me that every time I take a birth control pill, I have an abortion.

:laugh: bahahahahahahahaha thats amazing. :smokin:

I need to get out of arizona these laws are getting so ridiculous! Guess what the new one is?? Well its HB 2625 and basically if you're a woman taking birth control in order to prevent pregnancy then you're boss can fire you unless you can provide proof that its for health reasons. All im saying is they need to start checking people for Cranial Rectal Inverson most commonly know as someone with their head up their a*s before they let them run for office.

Doesn't this only apply to religious institutions? and where in the bill does it say you can be fired? All I saw in the summary was mention about the coverage they had to provide being rescinded. I'm deff not saying it's not there I was just curious if that bill specifically says that or not?

I am so confused about Arizona's policy making lately...It's like policy makers would like to un-do so many of the important steps forward this country has gone through in the last 100 yrs... civil rights issues, labor, and women's rights ... I honestly thought we were trying to move forward in those areas not deconstruct the systems put in place to protect people. People of our generation I think tend to take for granted some of the basic freedoms we have today, because there has not been suffering like there was 100 yrs ago...

All im saying is they need to start checking people for Cranial Rectal Inverson most commonly know as someone with their head up their a*s before they let them run for office.

Then we wouldn't have anymore politicians!

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That's crazier than the British law we have that states a Pregnant Lady can ask a Police Officer to Pee in his hat and he has to oblige (It's a Victorian Law that was never changed).

There was never any such law, it's an urban myth.