Fruit is killing me!

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  • Goodwhispers
    Goodwhispers Posts: 2
    Yup I agree. I am on 1350 cals and every three weeks drop a ton of weight. I eat fruits and am happy!!!
  • frugalmomsrock
    frugalmomsrock Posts: 1,123
    http://vegetablesnutrition.com/fruit-nutrition-facts-and-fruit-sugars/


    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Nutrition-Dieting-939/Max-RDA-Sugars.htm
  • Rhea30
    Rhea30 Posts: 625 Member
    Sugar is sugar. That's why MFP doesn't separate it. There is no good or bad sugar. So, yes, I limit myself to one or two pieces of fruit for the same reasons you mentioned, because it goes over my allotted sugar. You will hear many people say that they don't count fruit sugar as sugar, but it is still sugar.

    I guess it's just that I hate to see anything "in the red". So I try really hard to stay under all my allotted things that I track and sugar is one of them. But really, it's not the most important thing to track. And if you have a sweet tooth, fruit is probably the best thing to eat.

    Not all sugar is equal. The sugar from fruit is fructose, while say our sugar we might by from the store in a bag is made of fructose and glucose.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    MFP doesn't have the capacity to differentiate between sugars. Despite what people say - sugars DO differ. Fruit is high in fructose, and is such is a 'natural' sugar. The sugar you find in carbonated soft drinks, or sprinkle on your cereal however is refined, processed sugar which is much higher in sucrose than fructose.

    As long as you're within your macros, and the sugar you're getting is derived from natural sources on a 1200 calorie diet I wouldn't be too concerned. If the sugar was fro highly processed ingredients, then that may be an issue.

    H :)

    tigerpalm.jpg
    Sucrose is a natural sugar, made of glucose and fructose. I'm not even sure what you're trying to even say here. Most fruit has a majority of sucrose in it, then free fructose, then free glucose, and, depending on the fruit, any of a hundred other sugars.
  • hnguthrie
    hnguthrie Posts: 6 Member
    The thing I look at is how nutrient dense something is in relation to calories. I lost 60 pounds in six months (before starting on MFP), and I ate two bananas (which have quite a bit of sugar compared to many other fruits) and at least a couple more pieces of fruit every day for much of that time. Fruits are highly nutritious for their calorie levels. As long as you're getting all the nutrients you need, not going over your calorie limits, and don't have a medical reason for concerning yourself with sugar, it isn't worth worrying about.
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
    I eat fruit. A LOT of fruit. It does not make me fat. It fuels my cellular respiration.
  • cadaverousbones
    cadaverousbones Posts: 421 Member
    I would say if you are worried about it, try having fruit with less sugar.
    Fruit is GOOD for you! I wouldn't really worry too much if you go over your sugar intake a little bit.
    But remember that sugar turns into carbs, and carbs you don't burn off turn into fat.
    Here is a list of some fruits that have low sugars in them.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/5375-lowsugar-fruits/
  • hbunting86
    hbunting86 Posts: 952 Member
    ...that certain sugars (i.e. refined, powdered form found in candy/chocolate etc) are higher in sucrose than fructose.

    Apple = 2.1g sucrose/100g
    Sugar cane/sugar beet = 11-17g sucrose/100g.

    Ergo refined sugar (derived from cane or sugar beet) is higher in sucrose than fruit sugar.

    Ergo you can eat way more fruit, which is much more nutrient dense with other vitamins and minerals in addition to sugar content than candy or refined sugar.
  • kennethmgreen
    kennethmgreen Posts: 1,759 Member
    What I'm getting from this thread is that my government shouldn't exercise fruit control. Fruit doesn't kill. People kill.

    You can have my mango when you pry it from my cold dead sticky fingers.
  • jksullycats
    jksullycats Posts: 1 Member
    I have the same problem. I just decided to ignore that data point. I'm allotted 1200 cals per day. I'm also getting most of the sugar from fruit and what is naturally in other foods.
  • Rhea30
    Rhea30 Posts: 625 Member
    MFP doesn't have the capacity to differentiate between sugars. Despite what people say - sugars DO differ. Fruit is high in fructose, and is such is a 'natural' sugar. The sugar you find in carbonated soft drinks, or sprinkle on your cereal however is refined, processed sugar which is much higher in sucrose than fructose.

    As long as you're within your macros, and the sugar you're getting is derived from natural sources on a 1200 calorie diet I wouldn't be too concerned. If the sugar was fro highly processed ingredients, then that may be an issue.

    H :)

    tigerpalm.jpg
    Sucrose is a natural sugar, made of glucose and fructose. I'm not even sure what you're trying to even say here. Most fruit has a majority of sucrose in it, then free fructose, then free glucose, and, depending on the fruit, any of a hundred other sugars.

    I decided to look it up and have to admit that it looks like you're right but fruit isn't purely sucrose, just partial which I'm sure does play in some type of role.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    my dr. told me i could have 3 serving of fruit a day. just to try to stay away from fruits high in sugar such as bananas and pears, ggod luck

    He told you to stay away from bananas? They are an awesome source of potassium and are very versatile. If I could only choose one fruit to eat for the rest of my life, I would choose bananas.
  • lschuttem
    lschuttem Posts: 82 Member
    Unless you need to limit sugar for health reasons, there is no need to track it in your diet.

    THIS. so...why are you tracking sugar? are you diabetic? sugar=energy. You need energy.
  • CouldBeAHotMom
    CouldBeAHotMom Posts: 22
    This is has been discussed many times on here. Some people say fruit sugar is the same as any other, and some say it's not...
    Chemically it is different.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    my dr. told me i could have 3 serving of fruit a day. just to try to stay away from fruits high in sugar such as bananas and pears, ggod luck
    Bananas and pears are two of the best fruits you can eat!

    Are you diabetic or pre-diabetic?
  • Lorleee
    Lorleee Posts: 369 Member
    I would not even track it as a sugar. Just limit fruit servings to 2-3 a day and you will be fine! Over-complicating things like this can only end up with you getting frustrated, discouraged and confused.:smile:
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    MFP doesn't have the capacity to differentiate between sugars. Despite what people say - sugars DO differ. Fruit is high in fructose, and is such is a 'natural' sugar. The sugar you find in carbonated soft drinks, or sprinkle on your cereal however is refined, processed sugar which is much higher in sucrose than fructose.

    As long as you're within your macros, and the sugar you're getting is derived from natural sources on a 1200 calorie diet I wouldn't be too concerned. If the sugar was fro highly processed ingredients, then that may be an issue.

    H :)

    tigerpalm.jpg
    Sucrose is a natural sugar, made of glucose and fructose. I'm not even sure what you're trying to even say here. Most fruit has a majority of sucrose in it, then free fructose, then free glucose, and, depending on the fruit, any of a hundred other sugars.

    I decided to look it up and have to admit that it looks like you're right but fruit isn't purely sucrose, just partial which I'm sure does play in some type of role.

    Not really, the human digestive system has an enzyme that's specific purpose is to dissolve the bond that holds the fructose and glucose together in either sucrose or high fructose corn syrup. Essentially, sucrose and HFCs are processed in the exact same manner as free fructose and free glucose.
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
    Sugar is sugar. That's why MFP doesn't separate it. There is no good or bad sugar. So, yes, I limit myself to one or two pieces of fruit for the same reasons you mentioned, because it goes over my allotted sugar. You will hear many people say that they don't count fruit sugar as sugar, but it is still sugar.

    I guess it's just that I hate to see anything "in the red". So I try really hard to stay under all my allotted things that I track and sugar is one of them. But really, it's not the most important thing to track. And if you have a sweet tooth, fruit is probably the best thing to eat.

    That's not true. Fruit sugar is a simple sugar called fructose which breaks down more slowly than glucose (refined sugars in sweets etc). Fructose doesnt give you that sugar spike and put stress on your body like glucose does and doesnt give your insulin levels such a hard time. Fruit is great becaus it contains so many nutrients and vitamins as well as water. You cant really beat it!

    Fruit contains many kinds of sugar, and fructose is only one of them. Fruit also contains sucrose, which absolutely will raise your insulin if you are insulin resistant.

    Sugar from fruit DOES matter, and just like any other food, yes it CAN make you fat, or at least sabotage your weight loss, if you eat too much of it.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    Fresh pear? don't care...

    Little chunks of pears cut up and soaked in sugar in a can.... um, problem :)
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    my dr. told me i could have 3 serving of fruit a day. just to try to stay away from fruits high in sugar such as bananas and pears, ggod luck
    Bananas and pears are two of the best fruits you can eat!

    Are you diabetic or pre-diabetic?

    BEST? In what way? They are on the top of my avoid list as far as fruit goes...
    Blueberries, Blackberries... at the top.
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
    my dr. told me i could have 3 serving of fruit a day. just to try to stay away from fruits high in sugar such as bananas and pears, ggod luck
    Bananas and pears are two of the best fruits you can eat!

    Are you diabetic or pre-diabetic?

    BEST? In what way? They are on the top of my avoid list as far as fruit goes...
    Blueberries, Blackberries... at the top.

    I totally avoid them as well. Too high in sugar.

    Bananas in particular are highly overrated for their nutritional value. They are not a high potassium food, only medium at best. There are many more foods that provide potassium for fewer calories.
  • ladytinkerbell99
    ladytinkerbell99 Posts: 970 Member
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  • Natihilator
    Natihilator Posts: 1,778 Member
    I'm over the whole "fruit sugar is bad! certain fruits are bad!" deal.

    "Sugar is sugar" - it is, but it isn't. At the end of the day, my personal goal is to nourish my body with purpose. If I'm presented with serving of fruit and a serving of gummy bears, and both have the exact same amount of sugar, I can reason that the fruit has fibre, nutrients and minerals and will do better things for my body than the candy. Easy choice. I'm not diabetic, so I'm not going to completely cut sugar out of my diet, but I do try to have it wisely (mornings, before/after strenuous workouts) and sparingly

    And I do eat bananas, and also try to limit my carbs to under 100g/day. Bananas are very sweet tasting, and I use 1/3-1/2 of a frozen banana to naturally sweeten my smoothies, better than sugar or sugar substitutes, comparatively for the reasons stated above.
  • micls
    micls Posts: 234
    I stopped tracking sugar yesterday for the same reason. It's a kick in the teeth when it's in the red and I'd rather not see it, especially when it's caused by strawberries and rose apple!

    I've also stopped tracking salt but not for the same reasons. Mostly, because even while tracking, I don't take much notice of it, or change my foods as a result so it's pointless having it there and de-motivating me.

    I'm trying to focus on reaching my macros. I'm pretty bad at this so it will take a while to get into better habits. The way I see it, when I have those sorted, then I can start worrying about the micros.
  • EncoreUneAutreFois
    EncoreUneAutreFois Posts: 42 Member
    Definitely not diabetic, I'm healthy, but I'm trying to trim down the last 10 lbs, am hovering around the same 5 lbs, and I read reducing sugar intake would help. But man, one orange and I'm in the red? Why is MFP so harsh on sugars? I here you all though, I may just start ignoring the "sugar" column.
  • ebaymommy
    ebaymommy Posts: 1,067 Member
    I eat fruits (all kinds, several servings every day and banana pretty much every single day) AND carbs AND plain ol' sugar if I want it. It hasn't hurt my weight loss.
  • Toddrific
    Toddrific Posts: 1,114 Member
    I'm all about nutrient density.

    But yeah, I get the impression if you are already a low body fat percentage, dropping carbs would have the most benefit.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    Another reason bananas aren't on my list.. I'd rather have a cookie.

    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/are-bananas-as-bad-for-you-as-cookies.html
  • JanSmelly
    JanSmelly Posts: 143 Member
    Another reason bananas aren't on my list.. I'd rather have a cookie.

    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/are-bananas-as-bad-for-you-as-cookies.html

    From the same site. http://www.care2.com/greenliving/bananas-fun-facts-about-the-superfood.html

    I have a complex now.
  • BazAbroad
    BazAbroad Posts: 248
    I only count the cals in Fruit, not the sugar,
    I cut sugar out of everything that I can, I gave it up in a cup of tea, and it took 2 years b4 I actually enjoyed a cup of tea,, artificial sweeteners just don't do it.
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