Israel's new law bans overly skinny models
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We have all types of models where I live, but none that are skeletal skinny, which I'm glad for, because that doesn't help self conscious teens around here! It's nice to see average and "big boned" models, they are all so beautiful!0
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Kinda sad that it takes the government to step in and regulate this.0
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Yes, less freedom is just what the world needs. Sweet fancy Moses. How is this any different than employers discriminating against overweight people? Or the government passing a law that fat people can't be on TV anymore because it glamorizes being fat?
"Overly skinny models" need to make a living, too. And fashion houses that have decided these models are good for their business should be allowed to hire them. Doesn't anyone believe in free market principles anymore?0 -
Yes, less freedom is just what the world needs. Sweet fancy Moses. How is this any different than employers discriminating against overweight people? Or the government passing a law that fat people can't be on TV anymore because it glamorizes being fat?
"Overly skinny models" need to make a living, too. And fashion houses that have decided these models are good for their business should be allowed to hire them. Doesn't anyone believe in free market principles anymore?
For me, in regards to either overly skinny, or overweight - neither should be glamorized. Healthy should be the key. I think it's a good think that someone (being goverment or anyone) is taking a stand on the kind of image that the young look at and base self image on.
(BTW - I like your saying "Sweet fancy moses". I may have to use that. Hope you don't mind.)0 -
How ironic. When they came for the overly skinny models, I said nothing for I was not an overly skinny model.0
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How ironic. When they came for the overly skinny models, I said nothing for I was not an overly skinny model.
OFT,
Once the cut off points are set, they are easily moved. Are there some moral regards that "should" be followed by the producers of mass media? I would say yeah there is, are they always.... no.
Force legislating morality is not the way to do it. Education and a public shift in what is healthy is what it needed. The people drive the market0 -
Force legislating morality is not the way to do it. Education and a public shift in what is healthy is what it needed. The people drive the market
THis0 -
Yes, less freedom is just what the world needs. Sweet fancy Moses. How is this any different than employers discriminating against overweight people? Or the government passing a law that fat people can't be on TV anymore because it glamorizes being fat?
"Overly skinny models" need to make a living, too. And fashion houses that have decided these models are good for their business should be allowed to hire them. Doesn't anyone believe in free market principles anymore?
Agreed!0 -
Yes, I hope banning certain body types will become a trend. Hopefully some races too, no?0
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How are they banning them? In magazines geared toward teens, or just in general?0
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Many designers, both American and International, are banning the "super-skinny" models from their runways, emphasizing that health is most important. Michael Kors and Diane von Furstenburg are the first 2 that come to mind, they have banned all underage and overly skinny models from their runway shows, in fact they have fired girls for being unhealthily skinny and told them that if they can get healthy and take care of themselves, they would be glad to work with them in the future. We need to see a lot more of this from other designers!!
Sadly, you can bet your *kitten* Karl Lagerfeld (Chanel) will never, ever make that move. Because he sucks. So sad, because Chanel is soooo amazing.
Oh and to answer the discrimination question, the world of modeling is a WHOLE different ballgame. There is no such thing as a "discrimination" clause in a contract. The modeling world appears to be very glamorous, but in reality, unless you're a supermodel in Sports Illustrated or Victoria's Secret, it's quite the opposite. Models are treated like crap by the industry as a whole and have very little rights until they hit the big time and can make more demands. So if a designer says "I'm not hiring you unless you drop/gain 10 lbs" a model will do exactly as their told if they want to make a paycheck. It's not right, but it's just the way it is.0 -
You are all right. We should let the fashion shops of the world continue to portray an unhealthy image of a woman's body to our young girls, 5% of whom are dealing with an eating disorder.0
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Force legislating morality is not the way to do it. Education and a public shift in what is healthy is what it needed. The people drive the market
^ This
While I am not a fan of the "overly skinny" being glamorized it is our place to educate our daughters and not place our worth on a standard that isn't healthy for us.
Skinny bashing and shaming is just as hurtful as shaming for being overweight. My little sister is very thin naturally (she eats whatever she wants and exercises zilch) she doesn't gain weight even if she tries. Why should she feel like her body is wrong because we have issues with our bodies?
Now, if they are banning models with eating disorders and unhealthy bodies, that is another story. I can understand not wanting to promote that.0 -
From the article about it in TIME magazine:According to estimates provided by Israeli modeling agency owner Adi Barkan, half of the country’s 300 professional models will be forced to gain weight to work again, something that he views as a positive step.
Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/21/israel-bans-underweight-models/#ixzz1plMOg4IS0 -
ithink its great n it i hope it does happen here in the us.0
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Yes, I hope banning certain body types will become a trend. Hopefully some races too, no?
OMG! Totes this!0 -
You are all right. We should let the fashion shops of the world continue to portray an unhealthy image of a woman's body to our young girls, 5% of whom are dealing with an eating disorder.
Theyre only selling it because we buy it!0 -
Force legislating morality is not the way to do it. Education and a public shift in what is healthy is what it needed. The people drive the market
THis
Isn't every law force legislating morality? Murder = bad. Stealing = bad. Speeding = bad. Why? Because they can all hurt someone. I don't agree speeding is bad, but they law says it is, so it is. Forced morals.
People have been screaming about the models for decades and it's never changed. Why? It's not because of the people, it's because of the media itself. Jessica Simpson put on 10 pounds and wore mom jeans and it was on the bloody news for a WEEK. So, any fat is bad. She loses the weight too fast, now she's anorexic. Where the hell is the line? No one is any good at any weight, at least not in our ridiculously weight obsessed culture.
I think it is ridiculous that any legislature would spend time on regulating the size of models when there are much bigger issues being ignored (education) but if the media won't behave itself, then maybe someone should start getting them to think about it a little more.0 -
You are all right. We should let the fashion shops of the world continue to portray an unhealthy image of a woman's body to our young girls, 5% of whom are dealing with an eating disorder.
Theyre only selling it because we buy it!
David, David, David...don't you understand that this is ALL someone else's fault? We can't be responsible for what is happening to our own children. It must be the fault of someone else. There must be someone we can blame!0 -
Do you think for one mintue they will stop at banning skinny people? No, next they will start looking at the heavy set saying they too are not healthy and start to ban them? It is not up to ANY goverment to ban the size of people...but up to the people to stop BUYING the products that show unhealthy people. If you don't like the models...then don't buy the product they are trying to sell....0
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Yes, I hope banning certain body types will become a trend. Hopefully some races too, no?
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I vote we ban Israel0
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You are all right. We should let the fashion shops of the world continue to portray an unhealthy image of a woman's body to our young girls, 5% of whom are dealing with an eating disorder.
Theyre only selling it because we buy it!
David, David, David...don't you understand that this is ALL someone else's fault? We can't be responsible for what is happening to our own children. It must be the fault of someone else. There must be someone we can blame!
My goodness, you're right! Now that I think of it, skinny models were to blame for the London riots aswell!0 -
You are all right. We should let the fashion shops of the world continue to portray an unhealthy image of a woman's body to our young girls, 5% of whom are dealing with an eating disorder.
Theyre only selling it because we buy it!
David, David, David...don't you understand that this is ALL someone else's fault? We can't be responsible for what is happening to our own children. It must be the fault of someone else. There must be someone we can blame!
My goodness, you're right! Now that I think of it, skinny models were to blame for the London riots aswell!
Thank goodness you've come around. I was worried that we would have to, uh, re-educate you. Forcibly. Using the force.0 -
As a fashion photographer, I have a lot of skinny model friends and love shooting them. They are all great people. I'm not sure why they would be a ban on skinny models though. What criteria are they using to determine whats to skinny? I wouldn't consider any of my skinny model friends unhealthy either. We often have caterings at my shoots and I've almost never seen any of them turn down a sammich. lol
Also, almost every woman that I shoot who isn't skinny requests that I alter the image to make them look thinner. My response to that is that I'm a photographer, not a plastic surgeon. And we are talking about non-models here.
Its funny to me how our society frowns upon both large people and skinny people.
Let me go on record to say I hope they never do a ban of a body type here. I enjoy shooting my tall skinny awkward friends.0 -
Do you think for one mintue they will stop at banning skinny people? No, next they will start looking at the heavy set saying they too are not healthy and start to ban them? It is not up to ANY goverment to ban the size of people...but up to the people to stop BUYING the products that show unhealthy people. If you don't like the models...then don't buy the product they are trying to sell....
Then we can all realize Hitler's dream and have a planet filled with a superior race...... Oh wait, that was a bad thing.......0 -
I was overly skinny, and it had nothing to do with not being healthy... i was healthy, just had a good metabolism. I dont think this is what we need, though i understand the point you're trying to make. UNhealthy weights shouldn't be encouraged, yes.... but how can you judge if it's healthy or not without being in their shoes? how do you know it's not metabolism?0
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How ironic. When they came for the overly skinny models, I said nothing for I was not an overly skinny model.
OFT,
Once the cut off points are set, they are easily moved. Are there some moral regards that "should" be followed by the producers of mass media? I would say yeah there is, are they always.... no.
Force legislating morality is not the way to do it. Education and a public shift in what is healthy is what it needed. The people drive the market
THIS THIS THIS!!!!
Is it morally responsible to avoid glamorizing overly skinny models or any other morally reprehensible act, yes. Is it the government's place to force that morality, no.0 -
Yes, less freedom is just what the world needs. Sweet fancy Moses. How is this any different than employers discriminating against overweight people? Or the government passing a law that fat people can't be on TV anymore because it glamorizes being fat?
"Overly skinny models" need to make a living, too. And fashion houses that have decided these models are good for their business should be allowed to hire them. Doesn't anyone believe in free market principles anymore?
well said:drinker:0 -
Because there are so many fat models out there. They really need to be banned!Do you think for one mintue they will stop at banning skinny people? No, next they will start looking at the heavy set saying they too are not healthy and start to ban them? It is not up to ANY goverment to ban the size of people...but up to the people to stop BUYING the products that show unhealthy people. If you don't like the models...then don't buy the product they are trying to sell....0
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