Israel's new law bans overly skinny models

SwannySez

Then we can all realize Hitler's dream and have a planet filled with a superior race...... Oh wait, that was a bad thing.......

Again, the irony...



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MrDude_1

Im ok with this as long as USA's new law bans overweight models.

and if that offends you, but the topic title doesnt... you're a hypocrite.

Emabo

I don't see why some people are getting upset about this.. I think this is a good thing.

Destinie589

I hope this is a trend that continues all over the world!

Why? Because their BMI is unhealthy. Ok.. in that case the overweight models should be banned as well.

CBranson0503

Do you think for one mintue they will stop at banning skinny people? No, next they will start looking at the heavy set saying they too are not healthy and start to ban them? It is not up to ANY goverment to ban the size of people...but up to the people to stop BUYING the products that show unhealthy people. If you don't like the models...then don't buy the product they are trying to sell....

Because there are so many fat models out there. They really need to be banned!

Not all models are skinny, and there are indeed quite a few heavier models in the world. I think the point the previous poster was trying to make, is that when we condone the government banning one type of people from the media, what is to stop them from banning other types of people. I really doubt any of you would say a ban on using African American models is a good thing.

jsapninz

This whole thing is NOT about what is sexy or how good the women looks, It's about HOW GOOD THE CLOTHES LOOK. The fashion industry is around TO SELL CLOTHES. Period. And clothes look "better" (uninfluenced?) on hangers, or people who look like them, which is ridiculous, but that's the way it is! It has NOTHING to do with the people who wear, them, which is a backwards, ridiculous shame.

I think it is a good intention, but I DON'T think that the gov't should have interevened. Obviously, the law is going to be abused, twisted, etc, etc, etc.

Change has to come from the inside of the industry. Models have to start walking away from the pressure to be unhealthy. Audiences have to rebel, be it by protesting or just not going to shows with the ultra thin models.

PEOPLE have to start standing up for what's right; the gov't trying to force it isn't going to be TRUE change. I hate that the government feels that it's role is to protect us from ourselves...

Faye_Anderson

OMG, how stupid, the world is getting fatter and we're banning the "overly skinny" model. Nice to see some thin people bashing on here for a change :noway: How much would the same people kick off if they banned fat people from McDonalds?

Kenzietea2

As a fashion photographer, I have a lot of skinny model friends and love shooting them. They are all great people. I'm not sure why they would be a ban on skinny models though. What criteria are they using to determine whats to skinny? I wouldn't consider any of my skinny model friends unhealthy either. We often have caterings at my shoots and I've almost never seen any of them turn down a sammich. lol

Also, almost every woman that I shoot who isn't skinny requests that I alter the image to make them look thinner. My response to that is that I'm a photographer, not a plastic surgeon. And we are talking about non-models here.

Its funny to me how our society frowns upon both large people and skinny people.

Let me go on record to say I hope they never do a ban of a body type here. I enjoy shooting my tall skinny awkward friends.

They are not banning thin women, nor will they ever.

I believe they are banning women with a BMI that would consider them to be in the same range as a doctor would clinically diagnose someone with an eating disorder.

That being said, thin models in the industry are not going any where.
Unhealthy models are.

I still agree with everyone who says 'if you don't like the look of the model, don't buy the product'

Edit to say: The reason behind doing this is for the safety of the models. They have had many models die from starving themselves from being below a certain bmi. They are not doing it to please the people nor promote healthy body image necessarily, although I am sure they are both ulterior motives.

foxy2311

As a fashion photographer, I have a lot of skinny model friends and love shooting them. They are all great people. I'm not sure why they would be a ban on skinny models though. What criteria are they using to determine whats to skinny? I wouldn't consider any of my skinny model friends unhealthy either. We often have caterings at my shoots and I've almost never seen any of them turn down a sammich. lol

Also, almost every woman that I shoot who isn't skinny requests that I alter the image to make them look thinner. My response to that is that I'm a photographer, not a plastic surgeon. And we are talking about non-models here.

Its funny to me how our society frowns upon both large people and skinny people.

Let me go on record to say I hope they never do a ban of a body type here. I enjoy shooting my tall skinny awkward friends.

According to the article I read, the models have to have a BMI of at least 18.5 to be able to work as a model. Anything below that is being deemed as too skinny.

jsapninz

Force legislating morality is not the way to do it. Education and a public shift in what is healthy is what it needed. The people drive the market

THis

Isn't every law force legislating morality? Murder = bad. Stealing = bad. Speeding = bad. Why? Because they can all hurt someone. I don't agree speeding is bad, but they law says it is, so it is. Forced morals.

Laws SHOULD be in place to protect us from EACH OTHER. Murder = bad, because it HURTS SOMEONE ELSE. Speeding = bad because maybe (stretch!), reckless driving could hurt others. (Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Anyhow, the gov'ts TRUE job of protecting society from those that hurt others is WAAAY different than forced morals. However, they coincide with most people's morals because most religions etc also "ban" behavior that hurts others. Don't mix them up, however.

This is why I take issue with this law, because the models CHOOSE to work for and bend to the demands of these ridiculous deisigners....Ya, ya, they need work and there is pressure and all, but I FREQUENTLY read stories about previous models who walked away because they were pressured to be unhealthy (good for them!!). The government is trying to protect people who CHOOSE to work for an employer that is expecting them to behave stupidly (and unhealthily). If you are that dumb/desperate (and are an adult), then I respect your decision and you are welcome to mistreat youreslf, the gov't shouldn't intervene.

Faye_Anderson

(Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Well you could be if you came through the windscreen and hit someone else SMH

jsapninz

(Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Well you could be if you came through the windscreen and hit someone else SMH

Uh, good point, but I would have to see some facts to show this has EVER happened, lol. However, so could something in my backseat, but I don't have to seatbelt that in by law (yet!!). So pretty sure the law is to prevent your own dealth.

But good point.

Faye_Anderson

(Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Well you could be if you came through the windscreen and hit someone else SMH

Uh, good point, but I would have to see some facts to show this has EVER happened, lol. However, so could something in my backseat, but I don't have to seatbelt that in by law (yet!!). So pretty sure the law is to prevent your own dealth.

But good point.

Challenge accepted, just going searching the internet, I'll be back lol, and UK laws say that seatbelts must be used in the back seats too

jsapninz

(Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Well you could be if you came through the windscreen and hit someone else SMH

Uh, good point, but I would have to see some facts to show this has EVER happened, lol. However, so could something in my backseat, but I don't have to seatbelt that in by law (yet!!). So pretty sure the law is to prevent your own dealth.

But good point.

Challenge accepted, just going searching the internet, I'll be back lol, and UK laws say that seatbelts must be used in the back seats too

Hahah, love it.
And I meant someTHING, like a peice of cargo. I have heard that this sort of thing can kill the vehicle's occupants, but haven't heard if it can get oustide and kill other vehicle occupants...

And you know what's funny? Big school busses don't even HAVE seatbelts. WHY IS THAT?!
My mom always said, if someone can ride a motorcycle, why should have to wear a seatbelt, that is way more dangerous?!

But I digress.

tashjs21

Laws SHOULD be in place to protect us from EACH OTHER. Murder = bad, because it HURTS SOMEONE ELSE. Speeding = bad because maybe (stretch!), reckless driving could hurt others. (Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Just want to throw this out there, you are hurting people paying insurance premiums if you get into an accident and rack up tons of medical bills because you were not wearing a seatbelt (when said seatbelt could have prevented these injuries)

Especially for people that are uninsured and the rest of us have to eat the medical costs.

My1985Freckles

Topic: Too-Skinny Models


Back to it LOL

Farfourah

Meanwhile in Gaza, a mother and father can't feed their children...

LosingLizard

Isn't every law force legislating morality? Murder = bad. Stealing = bad. Speeding = bad. Why? Because they can all hurt someone. I don't agree speeding is bad, but they law says it is, so it is. Forced morals.

Laws SHOULD be in place to protect us from EACH OTHER. Murder = bad, because it HURTS SOMEONE ELSE. Speeding = bad because maybe (stretch!), reckless driving could hurt others. (Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Anyhow, the gov'ts TRUE job of protecting society from those that hurt others is WAAAY different than forced morals. However, they coincide with most people's morals because most religions etc also "ban" behavior that hurts others. Don't mix them up, however.

I wasn't mixing them up. I'm not remotely religious at all, but I still think murder is wrong. And not just because it is illegal. If it wasn't illegal, I still wouldn't do it. It's not illegal to hunt, but I can't do that either. My morals say so. But in that respect, I'm not in the majority. And the phrase "moral majority" exists for a reason. Because that which is morally agreed upon is what becomes the laws of society. And if you still disagree with that, look at the gay marriage debate. (WHICH I AM NOT STARTING HERE.) But gay marriage harms no one (STILL NOT STARTING THIS DEBATE), and yet it is illegal in many states. Why? Because the moral majority think it's wrong. Forced morals.

I still think there are far better things the government should be dealing with (education), but I'm not going to say that if is this a law, it's not a bad thing.

The only part that concerns me is the barriers. What decides "too skinny" versus people naturally thin? If you ban too skinny, do you have to ban too fat to be fair? Currently, these are mostly judgement calls. We all know BMI is inaccurate on the obese end, since many athletes score as obese, even when they are in top condition due to their muscle mass. Is it equally as inaccurate on the thin side? I've never heard that, but I'm sure there is a way it could be. "Too skinny" isn't a black and white call.

Regardless, I do think it is a step in the right direction. But the fashion industry needs a giant overhaul, not just in the area of eating disorders. I'd also like to go after those that over-sex underage children. I mean, go look at the Vera Wang bridal collection. All her bridal models look like starved child-brides about to become a victim of a pedophile. The dresses always seem to balloon around them, they never smile, and they look 12. It's disturbing. I want to feed and rescue them, not buy the dresses. And Vera Wang is considered a top bridal designer.

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Laws SHOULD be in place to protect us from EACH OTHER. Murder = bad, because it HURTS SOMEONE ELSE. Speeding = bad because maybe (stretch!), reckless driving could hurt others. (Which is WHY I take such issue with seatbelt laws. I am NOT hurting anyone else by not wearing one, so BACK the *$(#*#&^) OFF Gov't!!)

Just want to throw this out there, you are hurting people paying insurance premiums if you get into an accident and rack up tons of medical bills because you were not wearing a seatbelt (when said seatbelt could have prevented these injuries)

Especially for people that are uninsured and the rest of us have to eat the medical costs.

Meh... we already eat the medical costs of everyone that goes into the ER for every ingrown toenail...


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But to get back on topic... I do agree that if they set the bar here... where is it going to move later? While I get that (and even agree) that ad agencies shouldn't be touting every girl that looks like Skelator as "perfection" and that they should ease up on it... what did we really expect? We as a society buy into the notion that this thing or that is going to make us look like airbrushed Twiggy or whomever... It's a fantasy the ad agency creates to sell their product and we (as a society) buy into it because we want to be thin, glamerous and slow to age... So it's our fault that design houses and ad agencies use these people....