Relationship Disaster

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  • In my opinion not only did she overreact but if she isn't willing to stick by you at your lowest and unhealthiest then she doesn't deserve you at your highest and healthiest! love is forgiving and strong and overcomes ALL and you have no future with someone that is looking for the first opportunity to walk out the door... I fully believe in the vow "in sickness and health" but I also believe in the quote.... If you can't handle me at my worst, you damn sure don't deserve me at my best.... The decision is ultimately yours, but truthfully in the end, you do have to do this for YOU, not her and whatever you decide you need to be sure you are doing it for the right reasons so that you stick to it and succeed! good luck either way! I wish you the best in whatever you decide!

    ^^ Thumbs up here!
  • No one has said she was completely in the right. :-/

    I'm sorry, but no. Do you feel she was in the right at all?
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    No one has said she was completely in the right. :-/

    Were you expecting that to be the reaction?
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    Idk. However when it's an overwhelming majority the picture gets a little clearer. Still going to give it a little time and try to see if she can build her trust back up. But before we proceed with anything then I think we need to sit down and have a few discussions about what love really means to both of us. If it means entirely different things to both of us, then I have to love her enough to let her go. I may love her unconditionally, but I won't be with someone who doesn't feel that way about me.
  • cloud2011
    cloud2011 Posts: 898 Member
    Honestly, I think she was looking for an excuse to break up. You didn't do anything wrong, and if you both decided to work on your health and this was the result, where will she be when something else happens to you, such as the loss of a loved one, or a job loss, or something else?

    She sounds like she's just not ready for a relationship with you or anyone else, and she sounds very confused.
  • sdow
    sdow Posts: 71
    She needs to learn to trust. She may not be ready for a serious relationship. You did not betray her. Whatever health issues you have, you should take care of for yourself. It is hard to say whether or not the relationship is worth your effort. It sounds like you love her. It is hard to be with someone who wants to change you and make you over her way. Good luck and treat yourself well.
  • minus40
    minus40 Posts: 112 Member
    Find a Couples or Marriage counselor and make an appointment. She is reacting to a past experience that will haunt your relationship until it is resolved. If she agrees to go, it shows she is willing to invest in the relationship. If not, use the session to help you learn how to say goodbye to her and build on a future that is healthy for you. Setting out on a health journey with an anchor instead of wings will not be helpful.


    I agree!... Sounds like she hasn't worked on those issues and maybe she's just not ready to commit again. Good Luck!
  • Grlnxtdr0721
    Grlnxtdr0721 Posts: 597 Member
    My opinion, like most, is that she over reacted. I understand trust issues, but it doesn't seem like you were trying to hide anything from her, but that you were scared yourself. Or you just didn't take it as seriously as you should. YOUR health comes first, just like you have to believe in yourself and love yourself before a relationship can succeed. I don't think you necessarily have anything to "prove" to her as much as you need to prove it to yourself.
  • Idk. However when it's an overwhelming majority the picture gets a little clearer. Still going to give it a little time and try to see if she can build her trust back up. But before we proceed with anything then I think we need to sit down and have a few discussions about what love really means to both of us. If it means entirely different things to both of us, then I have to love her enough to let her go. I may love her unconditionally, but I won't be with someone who doesn't feel that way about me.

    Good luck to you. :-) Those trust issues are really tough to repair. It's been 11 years since I've felt that way about trust. And every now and again it comes back. Reagrdless of what happens there, you have us here to help with your weightloss. I hope you find this to be as valuable of a tool as I have.
  • cressievargo
    cressievargo Posts: 392 Member
    She majorly overreacted.

    I know other posters have said this - but she's got deeper issues.

    Honestly - it sounds like right now you really need to focus on your own health for YOU - not her. She sounds as if she could really benefit from professional counseling to help her with her issues...and until she does that she's always going to find some *reason* not to trust you. This time it's your "hiding" health issues (which I find to be a ludicrous accusation), next time it's whatever.
  • HelloSweetie4
    HelloSweetie4 Posts: 1,214 Member
    if she cant handle you during your struggles, she doesn't deserve you at your best.

    This is by far the best advice put up here! She definately over-reacted (like someone else said) having health issues that you're embarassed about is farrr different from walking out of a ten day marriage. You haven't been together long enough to need to know every little detail about eachother yet. Diabetes is a big pill to swallow and you have to learn to be comfortable with the fact before you share it with others. Yes, if you love her you probably should have told her, but that would have been for the support, which considering the way she acted when she did find out, I don't think she would have offered the support you needed anyway.

    Good Luck!
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    She was very very quick to lump this in with what her ex-husband did. Her break-up message to me was "for the second time in my life I've allowed myself to fall in love and plan a life with someone only to have it shattered with deceit. I believe you are a good man who will have alot of success in life; however I will no longer be a part of it".

    As I've said, we've left the door open and are working on ourselves right now. But I am seeing that seeing that she was very quick lump me in with her ex issues.
  • chrishgt4
    chrishgt4 Posts: 1,222 Member
    Obviously there is probably a lot more to this, but from what you wrote, my first opinion was that she isn't sure about the relationship.

    Clearly this is just conjecture, but it seems to me like:

    She likes you but isn't sure about the relationship, so is using this as a 'get out'.

    She is saying she still sees an 'us', and is suggesting leaving shower products at each other's houses because she wants to keep you hanging on.

    Understand that I don't mean this as a negative comment on her - she clearly doesn't know. All I would say is she is somewhere inbetween wanting you and wanting to break up, but hasn't cleared the line into definitely wanting to break up.

    I would suggest, though, that try to think objectively about the situation, without bringing emotion into it, or the things that you think you know about how she feels; you might be wrong about them.

    Think about if it was someone else and you knew al the facts, what would you think and what would you suggest.

    Given that I don't know the truth behind the situation, my honest advice is to treat this as a break up. This will accomplish 2 things.

    1. If she feels that she can contact you and see you whenever she wants then she will be in a very comfortable situation. So if you stop seeing/talking to her it takes the power away from her and gives it to you. If you really want to get something you have to truly be willing to totally walk away from it. This is a concept that applies in so many situations.

    2. If it ends up not being a break up, and you want to take her back, then great. If it ends up not being and in the time it took her to want you back, you have decided YOU don't want HER, then still great (for you). IF she decides she doesn't want you back, then you have already started on the road to getting over her.

    As long as you are in contact it will not be to your benefit.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    She was very very quick to lump this in with what her ex-husband did. Her break-up message to me was "for the second time in my life I've allowed myself to fall in love and plan a life with someone only to have it shattered with deceit."

    Good grief! You failed to mention that you might have some blood sugar issues, you didn't cheat on her.
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    We've sort of texted a little every day for the last week and a half, but I think this week I am going to make a point of just stepping back a little. I am in DC for work so it works out that way. My mind will be elsewhere anyway. Thanks for the advice.
  • StephTheBookworm
    StephTheBookworm Posts: 177 Member
    I definitely agree she overreacted. Wow. I'm thinking there are definitely some underlying issues she has/had with either herself or the relationship. Good luck. I'm sure you will meet someone new who is better suited for you!
  • Bohohippy
    Bohohippy Posts: 56
    This is coming from a 'bigger' girl whos been cheated on, has/had massive trust issues and (used) to second guess everything EVERYONE told me.

    I believe she HAS overreacted, it seems like she's scared and is pushing you away before she gets too deep. Step back, do you actually want this girl? If you don't, say that she was right and you need to go your seperate ways, if you do, then work with her, don't be controlled by her trust issues.

    Tell her, if she isn't willing to TRY and trust you, there will be no future because theres only so much you can do to gain her trust.

    I've been with my current partner for almost 2 years, the first 3 months was a mixture of bliss and hysterical misery (created by me) I didn't trust him talking to girls, he didn't stop, he just showed me the messages, he made me hang out with them so i saw them as his friends and gained them as my own. He never promises me anything as this is a sure fail, he doesn't commit to anything he doesn't think he'll keep... There were other issues from my past, through example and time and talking, i managed to get past them (I've had counselling also).

    We've had our, you didn't tell me that, or I swear you told me differently issues but really if you want to be together then some things need to be ignored. if you've been together 5 months, your health isn't her number one right to know, if it affects her, then of course it is, you say you didn't know you had diabetes until you went the doctor? Then how could you be lying about your health? You didn't commit 100% to health changes, was it easy for her to change that quickly? Talk to her about how hard it is, you weren't doing it for yourself and that usually means you won't succeed as easy.

    Don't expect any support or understanding straight away, all you can do is talk continuasly until she realises its her making the mountains you're both climbing over.

    If you stick with it, it does get better :) I still get a bit uneasy over my boyfriend talking to girls, I believe even though I trust him completely, he's human and mistakes can be made... I wouldn't forgive him but it helps me stop trying to control the situation.

    One last thing, it sounds like she could do with some counselling, she won't see that she's overreacting or reacting to small things instead of big things.

    xx
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    If after a month or so we decide that it just isn't going to work, I do want to find a way to say out of love that I want her to be happy and have the best and that I hope she continues to find ways to prepare her heart for when "the best" comes along.

    Can't say, "you are crazy and need counseling" but it would be nice if there was some way to lovingly suggest it.
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    Thanks Again All
  • LilRedRooster
    LilRedRooster Posts: 1,421 Member
    To be honest, you both have issues.

    If you can't feel like you can trust her with any information, you should have probably rethought your own desires to spend the rest of your life with her. How can you imagine spending the rest of your life with someone from whom you feel like you have to hide part of yourself? It may seem insignificant to you, but really, if you could open yourself completely, you wouldn't feel the need to have even hidden that aspect, no matter how trivial.

    That being said, she completely overreacted. Not telling someone that you're diabetic (or potentially), is much different than just walking out of a marriage, or breaking trust completely. It's definitely not something to end a relationship over, considering that you both can come together to be more open. She really sounds like she just doesn't want to be committed lifelong to you, because if she were, she would be willing to overlook that aspect.

    Are you both sure you want to be married for long-term? Because from what you said, it sounds like both of you have trust issues in general, which I would really suggest going to couples counseling to work out, ESPECIALLY before marriage.

    Good luck!
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    I agree. I should have had the courage to say something. I have had bad relationships too so I naturally had my share of walls up. In the last 2-3 months I'd really begun to lower many of those walls for her. This is just one that hadn't come down yet.
  • m60kaf
    m60kaf Posts: 421 Member
    This is a complex one - I thought she's looking for a way out. If you are unsure of someone - wait until you are having a grumble about something - blow it all out of proportion - job done

    I do remember when I was struggling with weight and confidence I used to think of both girlfriends and good friends that it would all come to an end anyway - so kind of push for it to end to prove myself right and get it over with. This may be what is going on with her confidence.

    Also when I meet someone I am kind of nervous and unsure and there are a dozen little things they do that makes me warm to them and like to be with them - some things are really silly and small but they are important to me

    Conversely when it starts to go wrong I will pick up on loads of little subtleties - no biggies individually - but just make me not interested anymore and I have to find a more tangible 'excuse' to finish

    So I either think her insecurities are looking to make something she is happy with fail because it is what she expects - cos she is comfortable with that outcome. Or there are numerous little issues that have come to a head with this one
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    I agree that she has her own insecurities. She admitted that she does often have a facade up. If it's meant to be it's meant to be. I told her I'd rather be on bumpy dirt road with her than the 8 lane freeway with anyone else.
  • Obviously there is probably a lot more to this, but from what you wrote, my first opinion was that she isn't sure about the relationship.

    Clearly this is just conjecture, but it seems to me like:

    She likes you but isn't sure about the relationship, so is using this as a 'get out'.

    She is saying she still sees an 'us', and is suggesting leaving shower products at each other's houses because she wants to keep you hanging on.

    Understand that I don't mean this as a negative comment on her - she clearly doesn't know. All I would say is she is somewhere inbetween wanting you and wanting to break up, but hasn't cleared the line into definitely wanting to break up.

    I would suggest, though, that try to think objectively about the situation, without bringing emotion into it, or the things that you think you know about how she feels; you might be wrong about them.

    Think about if it was someone else and you knew al the facts, what would you think and what would you suggest.

    Given that I don't know the truth behind the situation, my honest advice is to treat this as a break up. This will accomplish 2 things.

    1. If she feels that she can contact you and see you whenever she wants then she will be in a very comfortable situation. So if you stop seeing/talking to her it takes the power away from her and gives it to you. If you really want to get something you have to truly be willing to totally walk away from it. This is a concept that applies in so many situations.

    2. If it ends up not being a break up, and you want to take her back, then great. If it ends up not being and in the time it took her to want you back, you have decided YOU don't want HER, then still great (for you). IF she decides she doesn't want you back, then you have already started on the road to getting over her.

    As long as you are in contact it will not be to your benefit.

    ^This. And good luck.
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    That was really good advice and that's kind of going to be my approach for the next month or so. Get a new lifestyle adopted, get my thesis done and create a little distance. Maybe check in with her towards the end of April or something. But first do it as a friend. If I've made the lifestyle change and shown committment to it, then we can sit down and begin to restore what we had, which will be a long process.

    I am not going to stick around if I feel that she always has one foot out the door though. That's her issue.
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    All great advice, thank you all. I'm way better this week than I was last week about things. Time can heal, but I'm also just going to move forward. I'm not concerned about "getting back out there" right now as I have alot of things going on. Rather just make my life about getting healthier for the next several months.
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    We had a good talk tonight. It's not all lost. Just need to focus on ourselves for a bit. We both need to drop about 100 pounds.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    I agree that she overreacted, but . . . here's my story (similar in some ways).

    I knew I needed to quit smoking and made a half assed effort to do so for about 7 years. I watched my Grandfather die of emphasema and my Grandmother die from cancer around her lungs and heart. Both were painful deaths to watch, my GF's downward spiral lasted about 10 years and was difficult on the whole family. My now DH, we'll call him M, watched me put them both in the ground and deal with it all. He watched the pain for me and my family. He told me when we moved in together that it was only with the understanding that I was going to quit. I said yes, and then didn't. He caught me a few months later on the patio, and packed a bag. He said that he loved me too much to spend the next 50 years watching me do that and knowing the outcome. So, that was the last cigarette I ever smoked.

    Sometimes we need something scarier than ourselves to coerce us into doing what we know we need to do anyway.
  • jegg0425
    jegg0425 Posts: 37
    So are you guys together now?
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    So are you guys together now?

    We'll be celebrating our 5th wedding anniversary by doing the Warrior Dash. Nothing says lovin' like a little bit o' mud.