Potential Vegetarian has Protein Question

Two part-er for you:

1. Am thinking of transitioning to a Vegetarian diet, & am currently in the research phase -- if you’ve done this successfully, & can link me to any websites or books that you’d vouch for, I’d appreciate it! Especially if you’re a runner or have similar dietary requirements :)

2. Any woman vegetarians use protein powder to meet their protein requirements? Is this a good idea? If yes . . . is there a brand or composition that is best for a woman? (or a vegetarian?)

Thank you!

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  • fitsaxon
    fitsaxon Posts: 57
    You guys are awesome-- I'm excited to check out the links and cook book reccomendations -- so glad to hear that many of you are meeting your nutritional requirements just fine :)
  • graelwyn
    graelwyn Posts: 1,340 Member
    I don't run, but I cycle almost everyday for between 1 and 3 hours, including hills.
    I don't have an issue really, there is so much protein in eggs and beans, and also a very good source is Quinoa, which those on low carb diets use as an alternative to rice, pasta etc, and is supposedly a complete protein.
    There is also tofu and tempeh, I try and avoid things like quorn and soya products as many say they are highly processed and not very healthy.
    Dairy, of course is also protein rich.
    I eat fish nowadays however, which helps with my protein so I suppose I am now a pescetarian, but I used to be a vegan when a teenager.
  • Abells
    Abells Posts: 756 Member
    im recently switching :) but i still eat fish so i get prptein there. also i eat tofu now. i have had shakes but Im getting most from fish now.
  • scinamon1
    scinamon1 Posts: 158 Member
    I am- veggie and a runner, rower and cyclist (although injured since Jan.). Protein is the hardest thing to get, but things like quorn and tofu and supermarket faux-meats are all really high in protein, and egg whites are also really great. I tend to eat more of those rather than cheese and nuts because they are low fat, whereas cheese and nuts send that little number way into the red (for me, anyway).

    I can't afford protein powder on a student budget, but it is something I look at every now and again. A lot of it isn't vegetarian though- whey powder isn't always because its a by-product of cheese, which sometimes has rennet in it (calves stomachs :noway: ) Quorn tastes good and has loads of protein though, so I've never really felt I needed a supplement.

    If you have any questions about veggie-ness feel free to message me! I've been vegetarian since I was 10 so know quite a lot about it. :smile:
  • finchest
    finchest Posts: 245 Member
    hi! i've been vegetarian for 20 years and honestly find that with beans and soy, i get adequate protein without ever needing to supplement. HOWEVER, trying to get my protein in AND keep my sodium and calories in check, i drink protein shakes and love them. there are so many varieties on the market, i'm not sure what you're looking for exactly, but genisoy is a pretty simple, basic and inexpensive one packed with nutrients that shakes up in a jar with milk (i use almond milk, soy milk, etc) or if you don't want to overdo the soy thing, there are other protein source shakes, like rice protein, whey, pea protein, etc.

    for general cooking, i most love the cookbook "appetite for reduction" by isa chandra moskowitz. it has vegan recipes loaded with all kinds of nutrients, most of which are extremely easy to prepare and are delicious.

    for books on the subject of vegetarianism, it's been a long time since i've read anything on the subject - but maybe something like this would be helpful to you:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1570671443/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=1570671036&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1JPRC2RDEZVN9SBDPCSE

    Also, check out the "groups" tab here on MFP - there's one for "happy herbivores" which may be the kind of supportive community you're looking for :)
  • islandjumper
    islandjumper Posts: 369 Member
    I'm veggie...and a wanna be runner. I've been one fore over 10 years and have never had any issues with protein. My sources are beans, lentils and tofu mostly. If you're worried about it there are vegetarian protein powders (just out of curiosity I looked into one that was chickpea based...but didn't buy). When I get into longer distances I think I might start with a powder but at the moment I'm happy with the amount of protein I get. Honestly, most of us westerners get far more protein than we actually need so it's a non-issue...at least for me.
  • graelwyn
    graelwyn Posts: 1,340 Member
    im recently switching :) but i still eat fish so i get prptein there. also i eat tofu now. i have had shakes but Im getting most from fish now.

    And peanut butter is fantastic too as a source, I get the whole earth brand as it doesn't have the added sugar.
  • fitsaxon
    fitsaxon Posts: 57
    Thanks graelwyn & abells -- keeping fish in for a while sounds like a great idea!

    Graelwyn -- good to hear you cycle so much and meet your requirement! Thats exactly what I wanted to hear, thanks :)
  • capriciousmoon
    capriciousmoon Posts: 1,263 Member
    You should be fine on protein if you make sure you're eating beans and whole grains. Nuts, seeds, and eggs are good too. I'm no good with cookbooks or recipes, so I would suggest looking at foods you already eat and seeing what is already veggie and figuring out where you would be able to easily swap out the meat for beans or tofu (things like tacos and stir frys).
  • fitsaxon
    fitsaxon Posts: 57
    Great advice, all! I really appreciate it - THANK YOU!
  • KLo924
    KLo924 Posts: 379 Member
    Vegan runner here! Well, I'm a long-time unhealthy vegetarian who's only recently gone vegan and started really caring about what she puts in her body, and I've been running since the fall.

    There are tons of non-meat sources for protein, including tofu, tempeh, beans, legumes, whole wheat pasta, quinoa, soy milk, nut butters, nutritional yeast, etc. (and of course milk, yogurt, cheese, eggs, etc. if you're doing lacto-ovo veg). Depending on the day, without any sort of protein supplement, I usually get between 60 and 80g. of protein.

    I'm just getting into where I do longer runs on the weekend, and so I've started doing protein shakes right after those. At the moment I'm using Vega brand (http://myvega.com/products/vega-sport-performance-system ), but I want to experiment a bit and would love to know if others have suggestions! I also use Vega gels for my long runs so far.

    For cookbooks, Appetite for Reduction and Veganomicon are my bibles, both by Isa Chandra Moskowitz, who has a great food blog here: http://www.theppk.com/ This is vegan stuff, but add some cheese and you're vegetarian and have a little more protein :)

    I haven't read many books about being vegetarian - I mostly have talked with my doctor and am experimenting on my own to see how I feel, but I gather the books put out by the Forks Over Knives folks are pretty good (http://www.forksoverknives.com/ )

    Hope this helps! :drinker:
  • Not surprising. Anything that I post about vegatarianism is totally ignored. I just went 23 days without meat. It was a great experience. I felt light and lost weight. I look thinner, but more muscular. I have been doing weight training and using a protein powder supplement. I prefer Nitro92 Extreme protein because it is zero cholesterol and I like the taste. I try to drink at least 3 per day for a total of about 165 grams of protein. You might take in 4 of the 1/2 size servings which would give you around 100 grams of protein. I also like to take a casein protein before I go to bed. Gold Standard is the name, I believe. If you want to ge more hardcore, there is Allmax Aminocore. It stimulates muscle growth and protects you from muscle deterioration. I started using it about a month ago and now I can't live without it. Brown rice is another important component for giving your muscles the complexcarbohydrates they need. Spinach and sweet potatoes are also very beneficial. Ultimately, I would like to go to a diet of cooked or raw fruits and vegetables with a protein powder supplement. I hope that helps.
  • Hi - I have been a vegetarian for my whole life (so going on 31 years now), and although I do have to be more concious of my protein than most meat eaters that I know, I have always been able to meet my protein requirements, even at times when I have been running or cycling a lot. I do not eat a lot of the fake meat products - I just don't like them. I do eat a lot of beans, nonfat yogurt (the recent upsurge in greek yogurt means there are a lot of options for high-protein yogurts out there), lentils, edamame, nuts, etc. If you decide to keep fish in your diet -- which I think is probably a really healthy choice -- then you really should have no problem at all in terms of getting enough protein.

    Good luck!
  • Good SOLID advice. Vega is a todally bad-*kitten* supplement. It's pricey, but you are buying the very best food that your body can ingest.
  • NYCDutchess
    NYCDutchess Posts: 622 Member
    Eat Quinoa it's very high in protein.
  • DrBorkBork
    DrBorkBork Posts: 4,099 Member
    I'm not in favor of an all vegetarian diet, but I do want to recommend Sun Warrior Protein if you go that route.
    http://www.sunwarrior.com/products/sunwarrior-protein

    IMHO, God made animals for a reason... to sustain the life of man.
  • L00py_T0ucan
    L00py_T0ucan Posts: 1,378 Member
    OP - I'm not vegetarian or vegan, but have been listening to some running podcasts by vegans...and have recently learned a iittle about vegan protein powders.

    They are rather pricey, but there are vegan powers available with non-whey protein: soy, rice, pea, hemp.

    If you forego the protein powders, you will want to pay attention to the combinations of foods you eat, in terms of getting all the amino acids. You will also want to make sure you are getting B12. I think brewer's yeast has B12, but you'll want to do the research.

    Good luck! :flowerforyou:
  • rhichi
    rhichi Posts: 133
    I don't use any protein powders, though I make sure to take a multivitamin and vitamin D (I have a deficiency caused by other factors). To keep up the protein, I just make sure to eat a good amount of nuts, beans, and whole grains like quinoa, which have a good protein and fiber content. I do also eat things like seitan, TVP, and soy (I can't deny my love of Morningstar Farms breakfast sausages), though I try if possible to limit any of the more processed sources.

    I became a vegetarian 9 years ago, so I didn't really use many online resources. I suggest speaking to a nutritionist, because mine was great in telling me how my body type specifically handled foods and how I could maintain a healthy vegetarian diet (she is a vegetarian too). If your nutritionist tells you that you can't possibly be a veg and athletic/healthy/fit, find a new nutritionist. Barring any personal conditions you might have that would cause that to be the case, it is entirely possible to be a runner and a vegetarian. I can't remember his name now, but there is an MMA guy who is famous for kicking *kitten* and being vegan.
  • deadstarsunburn
    deadstarsunburn Posts: 1,337 Member
    I was vegetarian all my life until I switched to vegan, protein was never a huge problem even being a cross country running through high school. Protein powder, eggs, morning star veggie meat, boca veggie meat, veggie shreds cheese, various cereals.

    Protein isn't too hard to come by =]
  • tracyco66
    tracyco66 Posts: 25 Member
    Almased is vegetarian friendly I believe....
  • Bentley2718
    Bentley2718 Posts: 1,689 Member
    I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but the blog No Meat Athlete (nomeatathlete.com) is a great site for runners and other active people who are veg*n. The author went vegetarian while trying to qualify for Boston, and is now vegan. Also, the book Becoming Vegan was written by two vegan nutritionists. Even if you're not interested in going vegan, it might be a good resource.

    As for protein powder, it's not necessary, but I do find it useful personally, especially since my diet isn't always as great as I might like for it to be. I use a combination of unsweetened pea and rice protein (brand doesn't seem to matter much to me). It doesn't taste good straight, but I use it in fruit/green smoothies, as well as in baked goods and mixed with dates and nuts to make little nuggets.
  • I've been veg most of my life, and have never had too much of a problem. I realized when I joined this site that a lot of the stuff I was already eating had more protein than I thought!

    Scrambled eggs with mushrooms and little cheese

    Fat Free re-fried beans with fat free cottage cheese and low fat cheese (or regular cheese in small amounts)
    I love those high fiber little tortillas from la tortilla factory
    Greek yogurt, or any fat free yogurt really, with some granola and maby some honey for sweetness.

    Dinners, I can make a really hearty lentil soup with lentils, kidney beans, carrots, potatoes, veggie broth, celery, canned tomatoes... and that is really filling. I add some fake sausage (TJ's Italian is pretty delicious) if I want a little more protein.

    Best of luck to you!
  • HeatherWestgate
    HeatherWestgate Posts: 19 Member
    I'm a Vegan and I have no problem meeting my protein requierments. Quinoa and Soy are the only plant based complete proteins. I eat a lot of quinoa but also try to avoid soy products since they are often gentically modified and full of additives.
    I do usually eat tofu or tempeh about once a week, you can find non-GMO and also look for organic.
    Other grains and beans are good sources of protein but make sure you eat them together. A bean plus a grain equals a complete protein. I eat a lot of lentils, chickpeas and black beans along with brown rice.
    Steel cut oats are a good source of protein in the morning, along with things like nut and seed butter (peanut butter, almond butter, pumpkin seed butter)
    I snack on things like almonds, cashews and edamame beans for added protein.
    If your not allergic to gluten or wheat there is also wheat gluten which is a meat replacement and high source of protein.
    As for protein powders, I like Vega because its soy and dairy free but there's also a lot of good whey protein powders.
    If you feel your not getting enough make a smoothie.
    Once you get used to being a vegetarian, you'll get enough protein without having to think about it.
    Look for a recipe for Protein Cocoa Orbs.
    They're a super healthy delicious treat using a protein powder to add protein content.
  • KLo924
    KLo924 Posts: 379 Member
    I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but the blog No Meat Athlete (nomeatathlete.com) is a great site for runners and other active people who are veg*n. The author went vegetarian while trying to qualify for Boston, and is now vegan.

    Thanks for this!
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    I'm Ovo-veggie trying to grow muscle so I probably need more protein and less calories than you. Even still it's doable with whole, veggie foods. There's more protein than you think in veggies and you really don't need as much as you may think. The real issue is that most veggie protein sources aren't complete proteins i.e. they don't have all the amino acids you need. Because of that you need to get protein from many different veggie sources throughout the day. Eat lots of beans, lentils, leafy greens, cruciferous veggies, & nuts. Quinoa was mentioned. It's a complete protein but relatively high in calories for each gram of protein. Probably fine for you as a runner. I believe brewers yeast is a pretty complete protein. The ratio of protein to total calories is very similar to protein powders. I believe Amaranth is also a complete protein (need to check). I still do eggs & egg whites right now to boost complete protein. Of course soy products are obvious but shouldn't be your main protein source. You don't need protein powders but it's nice to have as a convenience. I prefer powders that are fine and mix easily and use multiple veggie sources. Although Hemp seed protein, for example, is pretty complete.

    With a little bit of planning I can get 100g protein for every 1500-1700cals. I try to pack my day with things that have 7-10g protein for every 100 cals. Don't have one specific source to recommend but take a look at the vegan and vegetarian bodybuilding sites. They have many different kinds of example menus to guide you. From there it's easy to tweak for more carbs or less protein or whatever you need.
  • Whinchat
    Whinchat Posts: 84 Member
    Veggie here, mostly dairy-free and eat cage-free eggs - and I run, not elite standard but I'm only just getting back into it after a while off but I've got no issues doing 10K/6.2miles :) I could probably go out tomorrow and do a half-marathon but doubt I'd be walking the next day (although I've done a half marathon in the past but I was prepared for that!)

    I don't think I've ever noticed too many issues and t'be honest I'm not that careful with my diet. Most days I get the minimum of 0.8g per kg body weight and if I'm exercising I might go up to 1.5g protein per kg (so I vary between around 49g and 100g a day) but I'm not bothered about building muscle so any more than that I'm just going to pee down the toilet. LOL :D

    My body fat is about 24/25% which is perfectly healthy and I'm happy with that. Also anything between 30 and 50% of my daily calories comes from fat so I'm not a low-fat eater LOL :-p

    Most of my protein comes from eggs, quorn, beans and soya. I have the occasional protein smoothie/drink - I use a hemp based protein powder (Good Hemp). I've also recently tried a UK brand called Natures Whey - which doesn't actually have whey in it, just in case you get confused. That was surprisingly tasty (mint choc flavour). I've tried soya protein powders and whey protein powders in the past and they just tasted grim to me.

    You could look here http://www.nomeatathlete.com/ or here http://www.veganfitness.net/ or here http://www.veganrunners.org.uk/index.html for info :)