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  • SweetAzn
    SweetAzn Posts: 195 Member
    Bump to reread later ^_^
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    cjack19 Posts: 158 Member
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  • TonnaJai
    TonnaJai Posts: 49 Member
    thank you for the information very useful :))
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  • CM9178
    CM9178 Posts: 1,251 Member
    I don't know why, but I'm completely confused on how exactly to figure out how many calories I should be eating in order to lose weight. The calculator on that website actually said that my goal weight was too low (and it is at the top of my "healthy" weight range), and I'd have to eat below the suggested calories. That makes no sense.
    I've been losing consistent weight so far doing Weight Watchers and following the suggestions that MFP gives me. I think I'll just stick with that.
  • Reeny1_8
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  • CM9178
    CM9178 Posts: 1,251 Member
    Not to add too much confusion to it, but wouldn't it be more accurate (and perhaps easier for people to log on MFP) to use the "sedentary" number and then log exercise using a heart rate monitor, and then eat those calories? I mean, I can say I exercise 3-5 days/week, which I do, but if I only exercise for 30 minutes versus 1 hour, obviously I'm burning fewer calories.

    Again, not to make it too complicated, but just wondering if you think that might be easier for some/more accurate for calorie tracking?
    I completely agree!!
  • CM9178
    CM9178 Posts: 1,251 Member
    Not to add too much confusion to it, but wouldn't it be more accurate (and perhaps easier for people to log on MFP) to use the "sedentary" number and then log exercise using a heart rate monitor, and then eat those calories? I mean, I can say I exercise 3-5 days/week, which I do, but if I only exercise for 30 minutes versus 1 hour, obviously I'm burning fewer calories.

    Again, not to make it too complicated, but just wondering if you think that might be easier for some/more accurate for calorie tracking?

    Because MFP has me on 1,200 cals a day -- which was fine for me in the start, because I have a lot of weight to lose, but now my weight loss has stalled. I've just worked out my BMR and it's a LOT higher than MFP has set me to eat.

    then you must have it set to lose more than 1 pound a week. Change it to 1 pound a week and it will give you more calories.. and I bet you'll still lose more than 1 per week.
  • CM9178
    CM9178 Posts: 1,251 Member
    Also, am I missing something. Where do you find this Katch-MaCardle BMR?
    When I use the BMR tool, it says the BMR is based on the Harris Benedict formula. I see nothing about Katch-MaCardle anywhere on the Fat 2 Fit website whatsover.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Also, am I missing something. Where do you find this Katch-MaCardle BMR?
    When I use the BMR tool, it says the BMR is based on the Harris Benedict formula. I see nothing about Katch-MaCardle anywhere on the Fat 2 Fit website whatsover.

    Then you failed to put bodyfat% here on the page starting the BMR calc:

    Your body fat percentage (if known):
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I don't know why, but I'm completely confused on how exactly to figure out how many calories I should be eating in order to lose weight. The calculator on that website actually said that my goal weight was too low (and it is at the top of my "healthy" weight range), and I'd have to eat below the suggested calories. That makes no sense.
    I've been losing consistent weight so far doing Weight Watchers and following the suggestions that MFP gives me. I think I'll just stick with that.

    you read the paragraph that it was basing the table on goal weight?

    If ANY of the totals in that table fall under your current BMR with exercise, it gives that warning.

    So you go back and give a goal perhaps 20 lbs heavier, or split your total loss desired by half.

    That way the table has all values above your current BMR by enough to include the exercise.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Not to add too much confusion to it, but wouldn't it be more accurate (and perhaps easier for people to log on MFP) to use the "sedentary" number and then log exercise using a heart rate monitor, and then eat those calories? I mean, I can say I exercise 3-5 days/week, which I do, but if I only exercise for 30 minutes versus 1 hour, obviously I'm burning fewer calories.

    Again, not to make it too complicated, but just wondering if you think that might be easier for some/more accurate for calorie tracking?
    I completely agree!!

    If you appreciate the purpose of not NETTING below your BMR, and you can eat back your exercise calories, then you can use MFP.

    Just adjust the activity level and weight loss goal until MFP suggests a daily goal above your BMR.

    Take the TDEE figure calculated from other site (remember to add 20% for current TDEE) minus daily NET goal, that is your more true deficit compared to what MFP may be saying.
  • Nath07
    Nath07 Posts: 38 Member
    Bump for later
  • janjan369
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  • whoiskat23
    whoiskat23 Posts: 103 Member
    :flowerforyou: Be back later.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Also, am I missing something. Where do you find this Katch-MaCardle BMR?
    When I use the BMR tool, it says the BMR is based on the Harris Benedict formula. I see nothing about Katch-MaCardle anywhere on the Fat 2 Fit website whatsover.

    Its just below the Harris Benedict paragraph
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Not to add too much confusion to it, but wouldn't it be more accurate (and perhaps easier for people to log on MFP) to use the "sedentary" number and then log exercise using a heart rate monitor, and then eat those calories? I mean, I can say I exercise 3-5 days/week, which I do, but if I only exercise for 30 minutes versus 1 hour, obviously I'm burning fewer calories.

    Again, not to make it too complicated, but just wondering if you think that might be easier for some/more accurate for calorie tracking?
    I completely agree!!

    You can do that too - pick the sedentary activity level and 'eat your calories back'. Note however, that the calories for execises in MFP are rough estimates and can be pretty far off what you actually expend.
  • Mia2891
    Mia2891 Posts: 54 Member
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  • random_20
    random_20 Posts: 41 Member
    sorry just found what i was looking for
  • yesthistime
    yesthistime Posts: 2,051 Member
    This thread is so necessary. :heart:
  • em9371
    em9371 Posts: 1,047 Member
    Hi dan,

    Great post thanks!

    I already pretty much use this style of working out cals rather than mfps eat back exercise, but wanted to check ive worked it out right!!!
    I just have a quick question:
    My bmr is 1587 / body fat 40.4 which gives me 1715 sedentary, 1965 lightly active, 2215 as mod active.
    I have a desk job and exercise 4-5 times a week. Exercise is light only due to knee injury so I currently eat at lightly active level of around 1950 and net around 1650.

    Maybe I'm just being dumb, but according to the chart the mod active level includes daily activity and workouts, so when you say to add 20% to this number, what is that for?

    Thanks :-)
  • jorowling
    jorowling Posts: 54 Member
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  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 176 Member
    I don't have the energy to read all 15 pages of this, but I noticed on the first page that it was suggested that we check our body fat with calipers. I participated in a study many years ago that compared calipers to measuring body fat with water displacement. Calipers lost. It's much more reliable to get your body fat measured somewhere where you can be dunked in a tank of water. It doesn't take long, but nowadays I have no idea where to have it done or what it might cost.
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  • Cazzy42
    Cazzy42 Posts: 30 Member
    Bumping bump - so confused, need to digest when the kids are in bed.
  • Sipah
    Sipah Posts: 31 Member
    Dumb question but maybe someone can help.

    My Katch Mcardle is 1794. The TDEE at that level is 2152.

    I have a sedentary life style due to work and location. No real exercise save for climbing stairs and walking around the office. The BMR for that is 2126 and the TDEE at that level is 2551,

    From what I understand (and correct me if i am wrong) I am supposed to eat between my BMR and my TDEE correct?

    If that is the case which two of the numbers do I work with?

    Do I eat between 1794 and 2152.
    Or do I eat between 2126 and 2551?
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  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
    Bumping for future reference.
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