Protein????

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I consume large amounts of red meat, stay away from grains, beans, lentils and other legumes, eat animal fat and my blood work speaks for itself.

Mainstream medicine in the last 40 years is wrong and they are eating their words now as the obesity rate and diabetes epidemic is skyrocketing out of control now days due to what they have told us for the past 40 years.

I have taken my own health into my own hands and I am getting healthier and healthier every day.

I'm not entirely sure this is true but I've read that the body stores extra protein as fat. I know you need extra protein to recuperate after a workout, but once you enter your exercise on MFP your recommended protein for that day (as well as carbs, fat, and calories) increases, so I'm assuming that extra is how much you need to rebuild muscle, and maybe if you go beyond even this it will be stored as fat?

Extra protein can be broken down into glucose in a process called gluconeogenesis. On low carb diets, this happens continually. One benefit of obtaining glucose from protein is that it is absorbed into the bloodstream very slowly, so it doesn’t cause a rapid blood sugar increase.

Also, the process of gluconeogenesis is why we as human truly do NOT need carbohydrates, just as our cave man ancestors didn't need carbs either. We have not evolved into something different.

But the cave man only lived an average life span of 16 years They were very nutrient deficient I would think. They were also in dyer need of penicillin to I am sure from the open cuts and lacerations they received from hunting with their bare hands :laugh:

Actually in a protein based eating plan, the body gets all of the nutrients (vitamins and minerals) that it needs because of how protein is broken down in the body.

Humans do not need carbs in the form of grains, especially. The most we need is some plant matter.

I have been doing extensive research and reading that breaks it down to the cellular and chemical level in the body.

I'm not entirely sure this is true but I've read that the body stores extra protein as fat. I know you need extra protein to recuperate after a workout, but once you enter your exercise on MFP your recommended protein for that day (as well as carbs, fat, and calories) increases, so I'm assuming that extra is how much you need to rebuild muscle, and maybe if you go beyond even this it will be stored as fat?

Extra protein can be broken down into glucose in a process called gluconeogenesis. On low carb diets, this happens continually. One benefit of obtaining glucose from protein is that it is absorbed into the bloodstream very slowly, so it doesn’t cause a rapid blood sugar increase.

Also, the process of gluconeogenesis is why we as human truly do NOT need carbohydrates, just as our cave man ancestors didn't need carbs either. We have not evolved into something different.

But the cave man only lived an average life span of 16 years They were very nutrient deficient I would think. They were also in dyer need of penicillin to I am sure from the open cuts and lacerations they received from hunting with their bare hands :laugh:

Actually in a protein based eating plan, the body gets all of the nutrients (vitamins and minerals) that it needs because of how protein is broken down in the body.

Humans do not need carbs in the form of grains, especially. The most we need is some plant matter.

I have been doing extensive research and reading that breaks it down to the cellular and chemical level in the body.

I don't know of any medically based studies by reputable entities to back up what you are saying. Normally, healthy adults who are regularly physically active should consume 55% - 65% carbohydrates. If you are worried about blood sugars then focus on complex carbohydrates like whole grains. Some of the primary functions of carbs, other than a major source of energy (which by the way fuels a better workout for better results), provides dietary fibers (Intestinal track bacteria build up is not pretty), helps the body use fat more efficiently (you heard me correctly carbs helps the body use up FAT more efficiently), carbs ensure brain and nervous system health (if that gos you die).

I would bet that the cave men you speak of regularly died of severe nutrient deficiencies, a rotting brain, weak nerve impulses, intestinal problems etc...

The enemy is not carbs, the enemy is TOO MUCH simple carbs. Americans eat only about 45% carbs, which is not enough, and of that it's mostly simple sugars which explains our ever growing guts. Add to that, in sufficient carbs will contribute to a continuous deteriorating exercise performance which equates to less fat loss and over all health enhancements. These finds can be found in various american college of sports medicine and american council on exercise publications.

I know it is incorrect that I need grains. I eat grains, I swell up and gain weight, blood sugar all out of whack. The only 2 grains I can eat with no issues is oats and quinoa.

I will PM you the medical studies and I will also send websites. We don't need carbs, as when there is adequate fat and protein, those 2 items are broken down into glycogen through an alternative way.

I have not eaten simple carbs in 6 years since I was diagnosed with diabetes. Most fruit, grains, beans, lentils (unless they are sprouted or fermented) cause me to gain excessive weight, joints hurt, blood sugar way out of whack and back on meds.

I am proof initself and there are many, many others that are living proof. I can exercise with lots of energy - no problem for me. I don't get the exercise I need a lot of times because of work and home committments. I need to start scheduling time for myself in that area.

I would like to see some medical studies where they say that carbs help to burn fat more efficiently. Because when carbs are being burnt, guess what, fat is NOT being burned.

The body burns:
1. Alcohol first if present in the blood stream
2. Carbs
3. Fat

So, in the case of a low carb eating plan, your are forcing your body to burn fat because there are limited carbs there.


This is the book I am reading:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/


Here are some links about glyconeogenesis:


http://themedicalbiochemistrypage.org/gluconeogenesis.html

http://www.examiner.com/x-867-LowCarb-Lifestyle-Examiner~y2009m5d18-If-you-believe-your-body-needs-carbs-then-its-time-for-you-to-learn-about-gluconeogenesis

You're among a special population of adults that requires something different in nutrition than the rest of us. For most people, your diet is not safe. Just as my current diet wouldnt work for someone with high blood pressure and weight loss goals. My diet certainly wouldnt be safe for someone with high cholesterol and high blood pressure.

You're among a special population of adults that requires something different in nutrition than the rest of us. For most people, your diet is not safe. Just as my current diet wouldnt work for someone with high blood pressure and weight loss goals. My diet certainly wouldnt be safe for someone with high cholesterol and high blood pressure.

Actually you are incorrect in stating that the way I eat is not safe for anyone. It is safe for anyone, 100% healthy or not.

From a distance as a thumbnail it looked like the old abandoned paradigm. Thanks for posting the full size. Very cool! I noticed fruit is sharing the bottom with veggies. I assume that means a good chunk of your diet is carbs in the form of fruit? It looks like if you follow this paradigm then you are largely swapping out whole grains for fruits to get your carb requirement. At first glance I really don't see a deficiency even as a comparison between that and the new my pyramid.