In place of a road map!

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  • lauest
    lauest Posts: 11
    Want to read later
  • jsp2374
    jsp2374 Posts: 131 Member
    bump for later digestion
  • shellsie_j
    shellsie_j Posts: 132 Member
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  • lynette111
    lynette111 Posts: 77 Member
    Makes sense. Saving to read all replies at some point. Thanks!
  • joolsweb
    joolsweb Posts: 81 Member
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  • Meatsies
    Meatsies Posts: 351 Member
    This isn't in place of a road map - it IS my road map.

    I am not trying to get to my destination by taking the fast lane and all the risks associated with trying to get there too quickly, I am happy to take the safer scenic road, and arrive at my destination happy and healthy.

    :tongue:

    youve lost what....3% body fat eating about 1600 daily with 1 or 2 spike days of 3k in 5 weeks?
    Amirite?

    Yep - you are correct.

    I'm a very happy bunny.

    This is pretty amazing. I spent a bit of time PM'ing Dan yesterday & his advice & input were logical and I'm feeling confident that I'm going to start seeing some major changes. He's a smart dude. Thank Dan, for your help, and for opening my eyes. I've always been a bit skeered of strength training. Now I can't wait to get a set of weights and start big 3 lifts. :)
  • Bethie_B
    Bethie_B Posts: 292 Member
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  • BonnieDLG
    BonnieDLG Posts: 30 Member
    Omg! I should be eating 1838 cals? I have only been eating like 1000 or 1400 if I exercise
  • BonnieDLG
    BonnieDLG Posts: 30 Member
    ok so does anyone know then, since my cal I should be eating is 1838, after I work out, do I eat back those cals? or no? bc on the myfitnesspal it recalculates your numbers....
  • Queen2day
    Queen2day Posts: 68 Member
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  • nickims4
    nickims4 Posts: 47 Member
    Bump!
  • Bump!

    Wow, one I can't believe my body fat isn't even where I thought it would be. I'm way under and I'm at a healthy range. I have been eating way under..at least now I have a good idea on what to do and why I wasn't seeing results!
  • AmberCHM
    AmberCHM Posts: 425 Member
    ok so does anyone know then, since my cal I should be eating is 1838, after I work out, do I eat back those cals? or no? bc on the myfitnesspal it recalculates your numbers....

    From Dan's original post.
    This number is static and I only recommend eating back so your NET is at least 200 above BMR.
  • Jessies_journey
    Jessies_journey Posts: 131 Member
    Bump to re-read....
  • ImperfektAngel
    ImperfektAngel Posts: 811 Member
    As far as the military body fat calculator, why is the number so high? the other body fat calculators are much less than what I am getting with this military one
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    As far as the military body fat calculator, why is the number so high? the other body fat calculators are much less than what I am getting with this military one

    Certain body types can cause one estimate to be higher than the others.

    But, if it's within 5%, you can enter both extremes in the BMR calc at goal weight, and notice that the effect on BMR estimate is not that great really, perhaps around 100 cal. Take the middle of the road, and keep measuring in the future.

    The hope of course with exercise is to improve the BF% and increase LBM, meaning the BMR estimate will go up! And that can happen while fat melts off and weight stays the same actually.

    Measure in another month to redo the figures.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    ok so does anyone know then, since my cal I should be eating is 1838, after I work out, do I eat back those cals? or no? bc on the myfitnesspal it recalculates your numbers....

    If you have a rest day, you do NOT eat those back, if you selected an honest activity level. There will be a weekly balance between hard days, light days, and rest days.

    If you were to do a weekly spot check, taking out your known exercise calories from that 1838, you should NET above your BMR on avg by about 200 cal.
  • vickystrand1
    vickystrand1 Posts: 47 Member
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  • redmapleleaf
    redmapleleaf Posts: 56 Member
    Ok. I think I finally got it. Hopefully someone can agree.

    I found my Body Fat using the military formula to be 34.9%.

    So my BMR would be 1297 calories.

    I chose moderately active since I do body pump 2 times a week, go for a 3 mile run/walk on Sundays and then I'm also an elementary PE teacher so I'm always moving at work.

    So that gives me 2041 calories to eat everyday.

    TDEE would be 2041 + 20% = 2449.2 I wear a Fitbit so that does seem pretty accurate.

    So for me to reach my goal weight my calorie count should be 2041 with only eating back my exercise calories to at least NET my BMR of 1297.
  • mhotch
    mhotch Posts: 901 Member
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  • CM9178
    CM9178 Posts: 1,251 Member
    I just came across this, and at least to me, this makes a lot more sense, and is more in line with the number of calories that MFP tells me to eat, and how much I've been eating, and consistently losing weight. (and also in line with the calculates that Weight Watchers provides witht heir points system)

    http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/calories/how-many-calories-should-i-eat-to-lose-weight.html

    From that site:
    -First determine your BMR using this formula:

    Women: 655 + (4.3x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) – (4.7 x age in years)

    Men: 66 + (6.3 x weight in pounds) + (12.9 x height in inches) – (6.8 x age in years)

    For me, this comes to 1683 for my BMR.

    -Next, calculate your activity level to determine how many calories you need to maintain your current weight:
    Sedentary - add BMR + 20%
    Light activity - add BMR + 30%
    Active - add BMR + 40%
    Very Active - Add BMR + 50%

    I have a sedentary lifestyle, so this number comes out to 2019.62
    This is the amount of calories I need to MAINTAIN my current weight.

    -Finally - determine how many calories are needed to lose weight.
    a 3500 calorie deficit per week (500/day) = 1 pound weight loss per week.

    So if I need 2019 calories/day to maintain - MINUS- 500 cal/day (1 pd per week) = 1519 cal/day to lose weight.
    MFP allows me 1500 cals per day, so this is right in line with that. - I've been following this guideline and consistenly losing an average of 1 to 2 pounds per week.

    And yes, this number is below my BMR, but seems to be the only number I can use to lose weight at a sedentary level.
    Not only that, but the Weight Watchers system is based off of calories and other factors, which determines this is how many calories I should be eating as well. So are you then suggesting that Weight Watchers is incorrectly telling all of their members to eat below their BMR??
  • brushe
    brushe Posts: 181 Member
    If I calculated correctly.
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    Age 34
    Height 71 inches
    Weight 198
    Goal 185
    BF 19.9

    Katch-McArdle 1931

    Very Active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk) 3259

    I set my MFP at 3259 calories

    When I enter my calories burned each day I don't eat them back unless I fall below 1931 net.

    Does this sound correct?
  • ImperfektAngel
    ImperfektAngel Posts: 811 Member
    from Fat 2 Fit these are the numbers I got,

    Sedentary - 1843
    Lightly Active - 2111
    Moderately Active - 2380

    I fall under Moderately Active, are you saying that on days I do not workout I need to only eat 1843? or can I eat 2380 every day and not eat back exercise calories on days I workout?
  • brushe
    brushe Posts: 181 Member
    are you saying that on days I do not workout I need to only eat 1843? or can I eat 2380 every day and not eat back exercise calories on days I workout?
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    Excellent point! what do you do on days you don't work out when it appears the Activity level calories account for exercise since you don't have to eat them back.
  • nicolemarie045
    nicolemarie045 Posts: 131 Member
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    If I calculated correctly.
    .
    Age 34
    Height 71 inches
    Weight 198
    Goal 185
    BF 19.9

    Katch-McArdle 1931

    Very Active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk) 3259

    I set my MFP at 3259 calories

    When I enter my calories burned each day I don't eat them back unless I fall below 1931 net.

    Does this sound correct?

    Nailed it. And if you have 1 or 2 rest days, and/or some lighter days, that would probably end up balancing out your going under BMR on heavy days.
    Just watch that, may be no need to eat more anyway.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    are you saying that on days I do not workout I need to only eat 1843? or can I eat 2380 every day and not eat back exercise calories on days I workout?

    Excellent point! what do you do on days you don't work out when it appears the Activity level calories account for exercise since you don't have to eat them back.
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    it's a weekly balance. same value everyday.
    You do not eat back exercise as you said, already in there. On a weekly avg. Heavy, light, rest days balance out. End result should be NETing above your BMR by 200 if you spot checked for a week.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    from Fat 2 Fit these are the numbers I got,

    Sedentary - 1843
    Lightly Active - 2111
    Moderately Active - 2380

    I fall under Moderately Active, are you saying that on days I do not workout I need to only eat 1843? or can I eat 2380 every day and not eat back exercise calories on days I workout?

    Same amount everyday - it's a weekly balance.
  • lillydlc
    lillydlc Posts: 162 Member
    Bumping to save
  • honestlysweet
    honestlysweet Posts: 221 Member
    I just want to let you know Dan, that I read this, studied it, made sure I understood it, and followed it. Since I read it about a week ago, I have lost two pounds, after a plateau of two months.

    You are wonderful for taking the time to write such an informative post. Thank you.