can i lose weight but still eat rubbish?

sounds strange yes but what i mean is as long as i eat only my 1200 calories can i eat sweets and high fat food or does it mean i have to eat 1200 calories of healthy food. see im a snacker and crave suger so im trying to figure out what i can and cannot have
please help
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  • iceqieen
    iceqieen Posts: 862 Member
    you can, but be carefull to eat healthy stuff too for nutrients - dont want to ruin your health ;)

    might also want to try the "only healthy food, and unhealthy only as occationally and in small dozes" and see if the snack and suger cravings lessen after a while.
  • missbaker89
    missbaker89 Posts: 245
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  • kindra3434
    kindra3434 Posts: 176 Member
    Technically I sapposed you can...but those foods wont keep you full and satisfied. What's the point of being skinny and unhealthy? Focus in health and preventing disease. Sugar is terrible for your body. Eat fruit!
  • I think you can eat 'rubbish'. What this site does for me is actually look at what and how much I eat during the day. It has made me think about what I order at a restaurant or fastfood place and sometimes helps me make better choices. For instance, when I go to Subway, I used to almost always order the footlong BMT, on white, with extra cheese and sometimes bacon added. Now, when I go there I order a footlong Club, which has a lot fewer calories.

    I haven't really changed much as far as where I choose to eat, I just think now about what would be a better choice. Plus, I love to snack during the day, too....chips, chocolate, etc.

    The key is to use moderation in your 'rubbish'
  • PennyNickel14
    PennyNickel14 Posts: 749 Member
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

    It's possible. But it's hard for me to hit my macros :)
  • JodieElijah
    JodieElijah Posts: 136 Member
    I think you'll find that by eating *rubbish* foods, you'll very quickly use up your daily calorie allowance. But by eating more healthy and nutritious foods, you'll be able to eat quite a bit more.
  • mrseelmerfudd
    mrseelmerfudd Posts: 506 Member
    check out the twinkie diet (i think thats what its called) on google. you can do it, but you wont be getting your essential nutrients!!!
  • Neliel
    Neliel Posts: 507 Member
    It got to the point with me where I had to start making healthier choices anyway because I just stopped losing weight, whether I had a low calorie day or not. It's not the amount but the types of calories you eat that make a difference
  • Well, you *can*, but this is after all a LIFESTYLE CHANGE, not a diet, and if you're losing weight to feel better, ditching the processed junk will make you feel far better than losing a few pounds while shovelling your face full of McDs.
  • Caitlinhappymeal
    Caitlinhappymeal Posts: 185 Member
    why would you set out to deliberately to eat rubbish? a treat now and again fine, but it sounds to me like self sabotage? xx
  • RoughDiamondUK
    RoughDiamondUK Posts: 151 Member
    Yes, you can. Check out my food diary for proof. I am however trying to improve my bad habits somewhat -- I know that I need to improve further still, even though I have improved an awful lot from 2 years ago!
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    When you want something sweet grab a piece f fresh fruit, it takes a while to retrain your brain but I find a banana or apple will satisfy my craving for something sweet and be good for me at the same time.

    If you're trying to stick to 1200 cal per day you'll hit your daily limit pretty quickly with junk food. (Of course, one option is to exercise a bit more and then reward yourself :wink: )
  • RoughDiamondUK
    RoughDiamondUK Posts: 151 Member
    why would you set out to deliberately to eat rubbish? a treat now and again fine, but it sounds to me like self sabotage? xx

    If the original poster is like me, cutting portions and making smaller changes (like I no longer have fried food multiple times a week, sometimes a day) is more achievable than dropping everything bad/sugary/processed/etc all at one time.
  • Martucha123
    Martucha123 Posts: 1,089 Member
    I strongly belive that if you want to eat 1200 kcal it should be all healthy.
    If you can't quit sugary snacks, how about upping kcals to 1400 and eating 1200 healthy + 200 snacks?

    MFP puts you on 1200 because you probably have chosen as your goal to lose 2 lbs/week,
    but you do not have to lose so fast, it's healthier to chose 1lbs per week or even 0.5 and eat more.
  • usernamekelly1
    usernamekelly1 Posts: 1,941 Member
    This is your about me

    "I have been on and off diets for 2 years without losing weight now i think i will try for a healthy lifestyle change instead"

    You can try losing weight eating *rubbish* but in two years from now that sentence will be

    "I have been on and off diets for four years without losing weight now i think i will try for a healthy lifestyle change instead"
  • Technically you can but that would be an unhealthy option. Also, you wouldn't feel very satisfied. For example, if you wanted to eat 30 grams of carbs, you can eat an entire bag of vegetables or 10 gummy bears for the same amount.

    I don't know about you, but an entire bag of vegetables would be a much more filling choice. Plus it would include vitamins and fiber which your body needs.

    A tiny handful of candy isn't really a realistic portion. You will definitely be hungry and crave more sugar.
  • TaylorsGranddad
    TaylorsGranddad Posts: 453 Member
    sounds strange yes but what i mean is as long as i eat only my 1200 calories can i eat sweets and high fat food or does it mean i have to eat 1200 calories of healthy food. see im a snacker and crave suger so im trying to figure out what i can and cannot have
    please help

    I do, I eat takeaway food a lot, chocolate a lot.... BUT I walk a lot to counter it. IMO eat what u like or you'll be miserable and then quit, just watch what u put in your mouth.... however I do agree with the people who say eventually you have to eat more healthy, so try mixing it up only eat rubbish.... say at weekends....it works for me, & BTW I've lost 42lbs so far, so it works for me.
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    It sounds like (from your profile) you want to make a permanent lifestyle change and keep the weight off. Eating a healthy diet will give you a healthier body long term, but going on and off diets and seeing your weight yo-yo does you no good physically or mentally. My suggestion would be to make gradual changes. You could try to eat only healthy food, cut out all excess sugar and junk food, but how long could you sustain that for? It will probably be easier (and therefore more sustainable) to gradually cut back on the junk.

    Instead of focussing on what you're cutting out, try to think of healthier things you can add in. As others have said, on only 1200 calories, you will probably struggle to feel full and satisfied on only junk. Try new things and experiment with your diet, without thinking of it as a way of depriving you. (A lot of people find 1200 hard to stick to anyway, that might be something you look at increasing in the future).

    As you gradually make changes, you can focus on one aspect at a time, maybe cutting sodium levels for a few weeks, or cutting down on sugar, drinking more water, getting more fibre, protein etc.

    I'm not advocating living off junk at all, but I know how hard it is to stick to a diet that feels like a diet. When I started MFP I decided that I wasn't going to give up any of the foods I like. I still have pizza, chocolate, wine etc. Over three months, my diet has got a lot healthier, I've found new foods that I like and I don't eat as much of that stuff as I once did, but I also feel like this is a way of eating that I can continue forever. I'm not miserable from depriving myself of food I like, but at the same time, I've naturally started making healthier choices.

    Ultimately, a healthy diet is going to be much better for you than one full of junk, but I believe that if you make it a gradual process, you'll find that you're far more likely to stick to it in the long term.
  • Clarecbear82
    Clarecbear82 Posts: 369 Member
    I have without realising it as I was kind of kidding myself that the porridge I ate every morning and the odd salad was a healthier diet than I used to have and ignored the junk I was still eating!

    I warn you not to follow in my foot steps as the bad diet has caught up with me and I seem to be ill constantly so I'm trying to change my ways now but its better to never get this way. A treat hear and there is fine but when its everyday and your not fueling your body properly it will catch up eventually!
  • MelanieAG05
    MelanieAG05 Posts: 359 Member
    Technically yes, as long as you stay in your calorie range however your body will not thank you for this in the future (diabetes etc) and so you should aim to be healthier.

    If you are finding it difficult then you could introduce the dietary changes slowly. For example, you could firstly aim for your 5 a-day fruit/veg. Start by substituting your snacks with a piece of fruit like a banana, apple or handful of grapes. I love carrot sticks dipped in hummus for my morning snack! These do have sugar but it is natural sugar so you will still taste the sweetness. Gradually the sugar cravings will go away. Then you could start to look at breakfast.....then lunch......then dinner and introduce veggies/salad and then before you know it you will be eating healthier all the time and having the "rubbish" as treats in moderation.

    Its all about planning your meals as well. Just don't buy rubbish at the supermarket.......then you wont have it in the house to eat it!

    I understand that all this advice you have been given is easier said than done and only you can make the decision to become healthier if that is what you want to do.
  • bridgie101
    bridgie101 Posts: 817 Member
    If you eat junk you end up with cravings, I have discovered, that make it harder and harder over time to stay on the diet. You don't get enough nutrients.

    1200 cals a day is considered about the lowest a person can go and get all the nutrients they need from their food. That's why this place won't let you go lower. On a calorie rate that low you have to be careful to get as many goodies into you as possible.
    the sugar cravings will go over a short while - you would be surprised how quickly your body forgets sugar.

    There will be real foods that you like, it's just a matter of remembering what they are.

    an egg on toast?
    a pottle of yoghurt?
    a bunch of grapes?
    frozen yoghurt and tamarilloes?
    nice bit of steak
    a baked potato!

    Just think about the real food you like, write it down if you need to... start from there, see where you get to.
  • castadiva
    castadiva Posts: 2,016 Member
    You have to find something that's sustainable for you. I personally find an 80/20 (or 90/10 if I'm having a good week!) rule works well for me. If my choices 80 per cent of the time are healthy, then the 20 per cent that is less healthy is much less of an issue. I haven't given anything up entirely, just reduced frequency and/or portions. Most days I'll have a little of something I fancy, or even a little of a few things, provided they fit into my calorie goals. I also try to make the 20 per cent choices a bit better, and more enjoyable - 30g of good quality chocolate rather than a bar of Dairy Milk, or a slice of freshly-made crisp pizza from my local pizzeria instead of two or three slices of soggy, much-higher-calorie Dominos. Having the indulgences I like in moderation makes me much less likely to fall off the wagon entirely, and keeps this lifestyle enjoyable for me - life's too short not to enjoy yourself! Good luck finding your balance.
  • amy1612
    amy1612 Posts: 1,356 Member
    I think you'd be stupid to try.

    Once you cut out junk your body will stop craving it. Simple. Eat healthier, eat more fruit, and change the way you eat and think about food. Have unhealthy food in moderation, and find ways of making healthy 'junk', such as flatbread pizzas, or fresh fruit lollies or what have you.

    I could go on a massive rant about people who just cut calories whilst still eating crap (such as the slim fast diet), but I wont. Suffice to say, it wont change your eating habits, and you'll be more likey to regain.
  • najla56
    najla56 Posts: 195 Member
    sounds strange yes but what i mean is as long as i eat only my 1200 calories can i eat sweets and high fat food or does it mean i have to eat 1200 calories of healthy food. see im a snacker and crave suger so im trying to figure out what i can and cannot have
    please help

    I do, I eat takeaway food a lot, chocolate a lot.... BUT I walk a lot to counter it. IMO eat what u like or you'll be miserable and then quit, just watch what u put in your mouth.... however I do agree with the people who say eventually you have to eat more healthy, so try mixing it up only eat rubbish.... say at weekends....it works for me, & BTW I've lost 42lbs so far, so it works for me.

    I cant spend a day without eating a sugar treat. most days 100ml scoop ice cream, some days a whole DBC even! and i loose weight:) but i always always always exercise, and try to stay around (i dare not say under:tongue: ) calorie limit(+/- 100 cal atmost)
  • najla56
    najla56 Posts: 195 Member
    sounds strange yes but what i mean is as long as i eat only my 1200 calories can i eat sweets and high fat food or does it mean i have to eat 1200 calories of healthy food. see im a snacker and crave suger so im trying to figure out what i can and cannot have
    please help

    I do, I eat takeaway food a lot, chocolate a lot.... BUT I walk a lot to counter it. IMO eat what u like or you'll be miserable and then quit, just watch what u put in your mouth.... however I do agree with the people who say eventually you have to eat more healthy, so try mixing it up only eat rubbish.... say at weekends....it works for me, & BTW I've lost 42lbs so far, so it works for me.

    I agree^^

    I cant spend a day without eating a sugar treat. most days 100ml scoop ice cream, some days a whole DBC even! and i loose weight:) but i always always always exercise, and try to stay around (i dare not say under:tongue: ) calorie limit(+/- 100 cal atmost)

    edited to add: and i try to make sure that the rest of my food is very healthy too
  • EllieMo
    EllieMo Posts: 131 Member
    Technically, you could, say, eat 4 Mars bars a day and nothing else, and lose weight, but it's not something I think anyone would advise :)

    You can eat "junk", but the problem with such food is that it tends to not be very filling, and lacking in the nutrients you need.

    Best to ensure you have a balanced diet and have "junk" as an occasional treat
  • Quiing
    Quiing Posts: 261 Member
    Theoretically yes you can as long as you maintain a caloric deficit.

    However if you value your health, you'd need to take vitamins and keep an eye on your macros to make sure you are giving your body at least some of what it needs.
  • Yes, sounds like a brilliant lifestyle. I recommend 4 Snickers Bars per day - only 1200 cals. Slim in no time.
  • SCOUSERWENCH
    SCOUSERWENCH Posts: 74 Member
    YES but in moderation! I still eat junk and still lost weight lol
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    But what would be the point?