There is a big difference between eating more to lose weight

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  • fiestyitalian
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    I am one of those who says that they cannot eat back all the exercise calories and sometimes finds it hard to eat 1200 cals a day. For me this is because it is what I am eating now. I accept that in the past I was probably eating a lot more in terms of calories but the food was crap e.g. large bag of tyrrells or kettle chips as a snack, Mc Donalds meals which meant I was full at the time but 2 hours later I wanted more. Now I think hard about my calories and what I put in my mouth. I make the most of what I eat and find that I am fuller for longer, which means I am not hungry between meals as I have been in the past and this is why I can't always get my calories in. Don't know if this is the same for everyone, but this is my experience.
  • terry_mtb
    terry_mtb Posts: 45
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    I have been doing good, but now I have gained 6 lbs back..I am not forgetting to put anything on mfp..There are days that I eat less calories..I have 1560 a day..but I do at least eat 1200..I measure..I don't get it why did the weight come back..I have changed to a better way of eating.
  • blasiansrus
    blasiansrus Posts: 151
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    What I don't understand is, most people came to MFP because they were eating well above their recommended caloric intake, so how all of a sudden are they now not able to eat exercise calories back and not eat up to 1200, 1300, 1400 calories?

    The problem is that we are now eating good food that fills you up. If I eat good protein and lots of fruit and veggies and try to keep fat < 20%, calorie intake will be low and I will be stuffed. 400 calories of good protein and fruit and veggies will stuff you.

    Sure when I was eating bad...I could eat 1/2 a pizza ( 4 pieces) and calories would be 1500-2000 calories or go to the chineese buffett and blow them out of the water with a couple egg rolls.

    Today, I have to work on trying to add good calories. Maybe add some protein powder or nuts to my food or eating greek yogurt.

    I don't understand why you would keep fat <20% of your calories. It's suggested that it be between 20-30% of your daily intake. Eating HEALTHY fats helps you lose fat. Nuts are a great source of healthy fats & are high in calories, so if you'd up your fat intake you'd probably be able to eat enough...
    Just my take on this
  • twinmomtwice4
    twinmomtwice4 Posts: 1,069 Member
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    Amen!!!! I also think it's important to look at WHAT you're eating when you increase your calories to lose weight. It doesn't mean going hog wild and enjoying fast food every single day or bags of candy!! I've increased my calories and have managed to do it with clean foods.
  • MyFeistyEvolution
    MyFeistyEvolution Posts: 1,015 Member
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    Bump for later!
  • Axels91
    Axels91 Posts: 213
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    What I don't understand is, most people came to MFP because they were eating well above their recommended caloric intake, so how all of a sudden are they now not able to eat exercise calories back and not eat up to 1200, 1300, 1400 calories?

    The problem is that we are now eating good food that fills you up. If I eat good protein and lots of fruit and veggies and try to keep fat < 20%, calorie intake will be low and I will be stuffed. 400 calories of good protein and fruit and veggies will stuff you.

    Sure when I was eating bad...I could eat 1/2 a pizza ( 4 pieces) and calories would be 1500-2000 calories or go to the chineese buffett and blow them out of the water with a couple egg rolls.

    Today, I have to work on trying to add good calories. Maybe add some protein powder or nuts to my food or eating greek yogurt.

    I don't understand why you would keep fat <20% of your calories. It's suggested that it be between 20-30% of your daily intake. Eating HEALTHY fats helps you lose fat. Nuts are a great source of healthy fats & are high in calories, so if you'd up your fat intake you'd probably be able to eat enough...
    Just my take on this

    so things like nuts, avocado, olive oil? are these the healthy fats
    you have a great figure btw lol
  • Sumo813
    Sumo813 Posts: 566 Member
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    Gonna give this a good ol' "Bump!"
  • imnotyourpal
    imnotyourpal Posts: 162 Member
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    This post makes me want to eat pizza. =\

    I am with the OP. On days that I don't exercise, I ALWAYS break 1200 calories. Even when everything I'm eating is disgustingly healthy!
  • RosieWest8
    RosieWest8 Posts: 185 Member
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    So…I didn’t read ALL the responses. But, I have been, in the past one of the people that found it hard to eat enough calories when trying to ‘diet’. Part of the problem was ‘doing it on my own’ and not understanding really BMR/TDEE. I remember one time (pre-MFP) when I was trying to ‘eat healthy and work out’ and I would write down and add up all my calories of what I was eating and I’d have trouble getting 1000/day. I know that sounds crazy but I think it was because, since I was eating far too few calories/day my metabolism was just very slow. So when I ate a 250-300 calorie meal I was stuffed and not hungry enough to eat enough. So I’ve had times where I literally went probably about one month eating around 1000-ish calories/day and working out for at least ½ hr every day and DIDN’T LOSE A SINGLE POUND. =D So I already know that doesn’t work.
    Since joining MFP and getting educated a little more I now have a better idea of how much to eat/day. I’m hungry when it’s time to eat too. And I’ve been losing. Go figure. I don’t necessarily know if I was eating ‘far more’ calories prior to MFP…..though I had to have been since I was slowly but surely gaining weight. But I’d go a whole day only eating twice or something like that (granted those 2 meals weren’t healthy at all)

    Basically if someone is having trouble ‘eating all their calories’…..their metabolism is suffering and that’s the reason they aren’t hungry. That’s what I think at least. I think when trying to lose weight, one of the easiest ways to tell if you’re doing it right is this: if your ravenous --- you’re not eating enough calories. If your appetite is non-existent…you are also not eating enough calories. You should be hungry when it’s time to eat and satisfied with the meal you have --- not stuffed or still hungry.
  • Clovergirl17
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    I absolutely agree! When I tried to diet before I found MFP, I just figured I would keep calories below 1500 a day. I was ALWAYS hungry and ended up gaining weight. When I found MFP, I found out that I needed almost 1,000 more calories a day to maintain my weight! My daily calorie goals now are 1990 a day, not including any exercise. I did exactly as you said and logged my food the way I used to eat...It's absolutely no wonder how I got up to the weight I did. I know this is going to be a long road to getting healthy, but it's becoming part of my life now. Great post!
  • sherrybaby81
    sherrybaby81 Posts: 257 Member
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    I read a lot of posts from people from both sides of the fence: the ones who tell you to eat more to lose weight, and the others who say they simply "can't" eat all their exercise calories back, or reach their calorie goal for the day because they're so "stuffed", or lose weight if they aren't eating at MFP's 1200 calorie guideline.

    What I don't understand is, most people came to MFP because they were eating well above their recommended caloric intake, so how all of a sudden are they now not able to eat exercise calories back and not eat up to 1200, 1300, 1400 calories?
    normally take in.

    I am one of these people. I used to eat all kinds of bad high calorie foods. That stuff never filled me up so I ate more. I also ate after I started feeling full, just because it tasted good. Now I am eating better foods, more fruits and vegetables. They fill me up and I don't eat once I feel satisfied. I could easily go a day on 1000 calories and not feel hungry. I don't do it, of course, because I know it isn't healthy and I want to lose weight the right way.
  • michelleepotter
    michelleepotter Posts: 800 Member
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    I know that I personally am eating a TON more food than I was before I decided to make a change, but consuming far fewer calories.

    I used to always skip breakfast, sometimes skip lunch. So there might be days where all I ate was dinner. So say I had Chuy's for dinner. A Chuychanga (chimichanga), refried beans, chips, creamy jalepeno sauce, and a Coke -- that adds up to 1795 calories. For ONE MEAL. And I'm not even sure that counts the queso on the Chuychanga, because that's not the standard sauce but it's how I like it.

    Now I've gone from eating only one meal a day, to eating three plus a snack. In addition to eating smaller portions of my typical dinner foods, I also eat yogurt, fruit (fresh & dried), raw vegetables, nuts, and a piece of boneless, skinless chicken breast every day. By volume it's way more food, but it's only 1300-1400 calories a day.

    Of course, I rarely find it difficult to eat enough. But, once I trained myself to eat little bits at a time instead of huge amounts at once, I certainly don't find myself hungry and wishing I could eat like the old days.
  • kcashwheeler
    kcashwheeler Posts: 23 Member
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    It seems simple to me...when people make that change they go from eating higher calorie, more processed foods that only fill your body up temporarily to eating less processed, higher fiber, higher protien, fresher foods that keep your body full longer. Essentially your getting less calories per day but your body is satisfied and not wanting more.
  • Luc245
    Luc245 Posts: 73
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    I have a problem trying to eat back all calories too actually. I eat a lot during the day, usually around 2000 - 2200 calories but I also burn off almost 1400 calories a day so that puts me at a deficit but after eating 2200 calories spread out I'm full! I eat healthy so 2200 calories is a lot of food, big bowls of chili, sandwiches, curry. By the end of the day I sometimes have 600 more calories I need to consume and I've already eaten so I don't always know how to fit it in. I usually have 6 meals a day of 300 - 400 calories each. I could try boosting each meal to 400 - 500 but I would feel really full after each one.
  • Missi3601
    Missi3601 Posts: 264
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    What I don't understand is, most people came to MFP because they were eating well above their recommended caloric intake, so how all of a sudden are they now not able to eat exercise calories back and not eat up to 1200, 1300, 1400 calories?

    The problem is that we are now eating good food that fills you up. If I eat good protein and lots of fruit and veggies and try to keep fat < 20%, calorie intake will be low and I will be stuffed. 400 calories of good protein and fruit and veggies will stuff you.

    Sure when I was eating bad...I could eat 1/2 a pizza ( 4 pieces) and calories would be 1500-2000 calories or go to the chineese buffett and blow them out of the water with a couple egg rolls.

    Today, I have to work on trying to add good calories. Maybe add some protein powder or nuts to my food or eating greek yogurt.
    THIS. We end up eating much more because its all much healthier. And if it's not more, it still fills you up to the point where you cant eat back ALL of your exercise calories.


    agreed!
  • USMCConditioning
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    There is an excellent book that really puts the current knowledge of food and calories in it's head. it's called "The Smarter Science Of Slim". i would suggest everyone here google it and at least read reviews or an introductory video to the book.
  • essjay76
    essjay76 Posts: 465 Member
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    Before I started losing weight back in January, I calorie checked what I was eating...I was ranging between 1400-1600 calories NOT ON A DIET. 1361 is my BMR. I was steadily gaining weight. So not always true that people were eating 2400 calories.

    I don't know what your height and weight are, and how much you're looking to lose, but that's why I had to had to specify "most" "average" people... not if you had some sort of health issue that continuously caused you to gain weight on that amount of calories. You may have an extraordinary case.
  • 1546mel
    1546mel Posts: 191
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    AMEN! I was drinking tons of pop, flavored creamer, triple helpings of chips, crackers, et cetera. Now, no way, but i eat my calories back for the most part, and some of the stuff i eat still is not healthy, and some is, and i am still losing weight. Eat within allowed calories, dont starve yourself, and exercise daily!
  • essjay76
    essjay76 Posts: 465 Member
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    I think part of the problem is that many people think that losing weight means a complete lifestyle overhaul, when in reality, it's gradual and smaller changes that make the biggest longterm impact.

    Most of us probably weren't eating THAT bad before. Say you were gaining on average 10 pounds in six months, or 20 pounds a year. That's less than a half a pound a week, or about 200 calories more per day than you should have been eating to maintain your weight. If you'd maintain around 2000 calories, you were eating about 2200... not 3000 or 4000 calories a day.

    But instead of looking at the math and approaching it rationally, we beat ourselves up and think we're gluttonous sloths, and instead of going for a reasonable 1/2 or 1 pound a week loss, we're stubborn and impatient and want it gone as soon as possible, and go for the lowest calorie allowance possible, and do things like cut out entire food groups because we think they're evil and bad.

    Chances are, you weren't eating THAT bad to gain weight. It was small changes over a long period of time to put the weight on. And small changes over a long period of time will take it off, too. You were eating just a little bit more than you should to gain, and you can eat just a little bit less than normal to lose.

    True too. This is another reason why I wonder how people need to be so extreme. Yes, this is often the case for a lot of folks who gradually gain weight over time, not just from gorging like I had mentioned in my original post. What comes on slowly will also come off slowly. People want quick results and get discouraged that they only lose one pound in a week, when in reality, a pound or two a *year* is considered normal weight gain.

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  • Li_Willi
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