Dear driver who passed me today
stufie
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Dear driver who passed me today while I was cycling:
Learn the rules of the road or get off it. As a cyclist, I have every right that you do, and I signaled before I made the left turn into my driveway. There was no need for you to speed off, rev your engine, honk abrasively, and flip me off.
Go @#$% yourself.
/rant
Learn the rules of the road or get off it. As a cyclist, I have every right that you do, and I signaled before I made the left turn into my driveway. There was no need for you to speed off, rev your engine, honk abrasively, and flip me off.
Go @#$% yourself.
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Holy crap, you must live here in Bozeman too...0
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lol ... i totally agree as a cyclist ... but ... here's the upside ...
Dear drivers who I PASSED today,
I'm sorry that I get my own lane next to yours which is completely empty, proving that it is getting too cold and dark for you to get out of your warm car that JUST YOU are in, alongside hundreds of other single users.
I'm sorry you had to wait in line in peak hour to get to the lights, to wait again, to get to the roundabout, to wait again, and to wait again for the guy who was turning up the street with no lights.
I'm sorry that I was able to zoom past you with no restrictions on my bike lane and leave you wishing that you had the motivation to get out onto YOUR bike, train hard and be able to ride to work to.
And of course I'm sorry that I have been able to get to work, write this post and be in the shower all before you have even started fighting for a parking spot in the expensive car park in the city
Bike user
PS stufie - don't ever change - don't ever give up cycling ...0 -
I hear ya... Whenever someone honks, gives hand signals, etc, I make sure to sit up tall, smile a huge smile, and wave like crazy... like they're my best friend or grandma or something. I figure killing 'em with kindness probably frustrates them more than if I give the bird back :-)
I've had my share of run ins with drivers, though, so be careful. Remember that they ARE bigger than you, like it or not.
Stay safe out there!
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You can honk back with an Airzound. Scares the **** out of them. Stupid cagers.0
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Know how you feel... The other day someone actually stopped for me at a round about when I had right of way! I nearly fell off my bike in suprise...
they usually just pull out in front of me even though I'm already on the round about and make me lose all my speed breaking so I don't crash into them! 0 -
You can honk back with an Airzound. Scares the **** out of them. Stupid cagers.
I should invest in one. I've only heard the term "cagers" used by those who ride motorcycles...love it.Know how you feel... The other day someone actually stopped for me at a round about when I had right of way! I nearly fell off my bike in suprise... they usually just pull out in front of me even though I'm already on the round about and make me lose all my speed breaking so I don't crash into them!
It seems like people here have no idea what to do when a bike is in the road with traffic. Yesterday my husband got in the left turning lane, and the oncoming car came to a full stop for him. It was a nice sentiment, but you could tell the driver had no idea what they were supposed to do, so they just stopped.0 -
I like the ones who try to pass me on the left (in the oncoming traffic lane) when I am taking the lane 100 feet from a stop to turn left at a stop. Where the hell do they think they're going and what the hell are they going to do if someone comes around the corner?! :noway:0
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One of the bumper sticker on my car says:
I Stop For Cyclists!0 -
Cyclists in my town can be a big pain in the butt......There are bike paths but there are some who won't use them.....Most think they own the road.....:grumble:0
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I respect cyclists...I don't have the guts to get on a bike because in South Africa people don't care about if they kill you or not. A young woman got killed on the road when a guy decided she wasn't driving fast enough (ON HER SCOOTER of all things) (this now from a taxi) So i don't dare, but i do pretend that i'm mountain biking in my living room with my Kinect
but i seriously respect you guys. 0 -
Cyclists in my town can be a big pain in the butt......There are bike paths but there are some who won't use them.....Most think they own the road.....:grumble:
A lot of "bike paths" are not appropriate for those of us hauling at 20mph or faster. People mill about wearing headphones and oblivious to what's coming up behind them, kids weave back and forth slowly on bikes (rarely wearing helmets), people walking dogs with leashes that cross the entire path...these are all serious hazards when fast-moving bikes are added to the mix.
YOU may not like bikes on the road, but those of us on bikes have EVERY right to the roadway that you have. We pay the same taxes, but our miles on the bike don't do the damage to the roads that cars do.
So, yeah...we DO, in fact, "own the road."0 -
...YOU may not like bikes on the road, but those of us on bikes have EVERY right to the roadway that you have. We pay the same taxes, but our miles on the bike don't do the damage to the roads that cars do.
So, yeah...we DO, in fact, "own the road."
How much gas are you putting in your bicycle? None? Then how are you paying the same taxes as someone who puts gas in their car?
I have no disagreement with the "same rights" statement but folks who don't buy gas don't pay the same taxes as those who do.0 -
How much gas are you putting in your bicycle? None? Then how are you paying the same taxes as someone who puts gas in their car?
I have no disagreement with the "same rights" statement but folks who don't buy gas don't pay the same taxes as those who do.
This is a terrible argument. Not only because it's ignorant of actual transportation tax funding, but because it also implies that the amount spent on gas tax gives one a right to the road. (I'm in a Hummer, get off my road, Prius!) Oh, and also it implies that anyone who owns a bicycle does not own a car. Car-fee cyclists are rare ducks.
fyi - taxes taken from gasoline are spent mostly on highways.
It's property tax and sales tax that pays for the local roads that cyclists ride on. Furthermore, cars -destroy- roads while bicycles cause no meaningful damage to the surface.
So, really. Now that you know cyclists and motorists pay the same taxes for the local roads, but cars cause costlier (by factors of ten) maintenance and upkeep costs - well. We're doing you a favor by riding our bikes, paying the same amount of money, and not wearing out the road like you are. And we're not complaining about it. You're welcome.
Now that you know; you never have to make that silly argument again. Again: You're welcome.0 -
I can make all the silly arguments I want. Facts will never stand in my way.
Around here there are a lot of bicyclists who scream that they have all the same rights as car drivers but they don't follow the laws. That gets annoying. I don't have any hatred toward them though. I used to do a good amount of bike riding years ago when I lived in town.
In reality I would love to be able to ride a bicycle to work but I would be killed on the rural road from my house to the highway and it's a 20 mile trip each way. I don't even own a bicycle right now as I can't ride safely around where I live.0 -
I always get annoyed by people who ride bikes.. Mainly because as another posted stated, they can't follow the rules.
We don't have bike lanes where I live in Illinois.. so that means you are weaving in and out of traffic in front of my car.. and if I need to stop suddenly and you get hit, well then it's not my fault. There are sidewalks for a reason.. Stay on them!
Would I ever honk, speed off and flip you the bird? No.. thats just uncalled for.0 -
Dear bicyclist who blew through the stop sign at a 4 way stop as I was going through it...I didn't hit you this time, but I think I know who would have more physical difficulty if I did.0
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I live in a big city and have considered using a bicycle. I've gone to the meetings of a biking advocacy group and they always say the cyclist should be assertive. I always respond, Have you seen the motorists out there? In an argument between a truck and cyclist who do you think is going to win?
But by the same token, as a pedestrian I've had a lot of very close calls with some crazy cyclists, often messengers. A couple of them have cursed me when I complained about almost being run over.
There needs to be more education and enforcement on both sides.0 -
haha an air horn would be great!You can honk back with an Airzound. Scares the **** out of them. Stupid cagers.0 -
dear bicycle rider,
when you are riding on the side of the road on a busy highway please move over on the shoulder more and not ride the white line because when an eighteen wheeler is in the lane beside me and you are riding the line and i have to drive by you ---guess which one i am more likely to get closer to so that i dont get crushed. also, since you are so much healthier (due to riding your bike everywhere) cant you pedal faster?????? come on---pump those legs
05 mustang driver
ps---i will of course stop to render aid.0 -
I can make all the silly arguments I want. Facts will never stand in my way.
Cheers.Around here there are a lot of bicyclists who scream that they have all the same rights as car drivers but they don't follow the laws. That gets annoying. I don't have any hatred toward them though. I used to do a good amount of bike riding years ago when I lived in town.
I was pretty annoyed when cyclists rode with complete disregard for safety or the law, but now that I'm a bit of an advocate... it annoys me even more. Sometimes I think I'm the only cyclist in California that stops at lights/stop signs. Seeing folks on the wrong side of the road ON the sidewalk is annoying too - but that's mostly people on department store mountain bikes that aren't really cycling for the sake of cycling. They don't necessarily know that cyclists are not pedestrians.0 -
Cyclists in my town can be a big pain in the butt......There are bike paths but there are some who won't use them.....Most think they own the road.....:grumble:
A lot of "bike paths" are not appropriate for those of us hauling at 20mph or faster. People mill about wearing headphones and oblivious to what's coming up behind them, kids weave back and forth slowly on bikes (rarely wearing helmets), people walking dogs with leashes that cross the entire path...these are all serious hazards when fast-moving bikes are added to the mix.
YOU may not like bikes on the road, but those of us on bikes have EVERY right to the roadway that you have. We pay the same taxes, but our miles on the bike don't do the damage to the roads that cars do.
So, yeah...we DO, in fact, "own the road."
I have never seen people walking their dogs on the bike path.....The council built the path to keep the pedal pushers off the road for their safety......No, they don't do damage but riding on roads they could do damage to themselves and other road users......0 -
I always get annoyed by people who ride bikes.. Mainly because as another posted stated, they can't follow the rules.
We don't have bike lanes where I live in Illinois.. so that means you are weaving in and out of traffic in front of my car.. and if I need to stop suddenly and you get hit, well then it's not my fault. There are sidewalks for a reason.. Stay on them!
Would I ever honk, speed off and flip you the bird? No.. thats just uncalled for.
In many towns, like the last one I lived in, and this one I now live in, it's illegal to ride on the sidewalk.0 -
Your paths must be a lot different than mine. When I first started cycling around town for short trips, I'd go out of my way to use pathways that cut through town. ...Soon learned they are full of inattentive joggers, groups of pedestrians walking full across, or unleashed dogs.
I'll take my chances with the cars...
I get the odd jogger in the bike lane, but what can you do?0 -
I always get annoyed by people who ride bikes.. Mainly because as another posted stated, they can't follow the rules.
We don't have bike lanes where I live in Illinois.. so that means you are weaving in and out of traffic in front of my car.. and if I need to stop suddenly and you get hit, well then it's not my fault. There are sidewalks for a reason.. Stay on them!
Would I ever honk, speed off and flip you the bird? No.. thats just uncalled for.
I live in Illinois, and you'd better learn the laws that pertain to you. In Illinois, a bike on the road is treated as any other moving vehicle. If we run a stop sign, we can be ticketed. We must signal turns. If a bike is in a left turn lane in front of you, you must yield right of way until safe to over take. When passing a bicycle, you must give the cyclist a MINIMUM of 3' clearance. And most towns have ordinances prohibiting bicycles on sidewalks(and skateboards). Sidewalks are for pedestrians.
The thing that pi$$es me off is when i see a bicyclist riding against traffic. It's the equivalent of driving the wrong way down a one way street. And we wear the spandex shorts so you know we are riding our bikes on purpose, not because we lost our licence because we got a DUI!0 -
I live in a big city and have considered using a bicycle. I've gone to the meetings of a biking advocacy group and they always say the cyclist should be assertive. I always respond, Have you seen the motorists out there? In an argument between a truck and cyclist who do you think is going to win?
But by the same token, as a pedestrian I've had a lot of very close calls with some crazy cyclists, often messengers. A couple of them have cursed me when I complained about almost being run over.
There needs to be more education and enforcement on both sides.
This right here! I live in a small town. There are a lot of people here who don't have a driver's license or can't afford a car. I have absolutely no problem with cyclists until they decide the rules of the road don't apply to them!
When I was growing up, these things were drilled into me:
On the road, cyclists ride with traffic, pedestrians walk against traffic
Cyclists follow the same rules as other wheeled vehicles on the road.
This means - driving on the right
- stopping at stop signs
- signaling your intent (and we learned the signals, they are pretty easy)
This does not mean - driving anywhere on the road you want
- blow through a stop sign, who cares about right of way
- just shoot off across the street not bothering to look at what's coming up behind me, they will
probably stop anyway.
From what I see in our town, cyclists and pedestrians just figure cars are going to stop for them. After all, it's the car that's going to get the ticket and we can sue them ---that's not going to help you if you are dead.
Sorry, just venting. This does not apply to all cyclists.0 -
You know, in my town, I see way more people blowing stop signs and lights in cars, and even 18 wheelers on the local one ways downtown than I see cyclists not following the rule od the road.
I see many more people in cars for some reaon, not understanding how a 4 way stop sign works, (really people?) than cyclists. That's mainly because as a cyclist, you just sit till its clear or you WILL be run over. We have at least one person hit and killed or seriously maimed every year here by car drivers who can't seem to not hit and kill people on 35 mph four lane roads.
So, in my town, if you were to just take the car drivers vs the bike riders, you would think every car driver is a flipping bloody idiot.
But I also know that there are places in which cyclists are being ignorant too.
The OP didn't make any sweeping generalizations about car drivers, she talked about one specifically, who acted like an a- hole.
So maybe the rest of you can stop making sweeping generalizations about cyclists.?
Yeah, thatd be great. 0 -
I was pretty annoyed when cyclists rode with complete disregard for safety or the law, but now that I'm a bit of an advocate... it annoys me even more. Sometimes I think I'm the only cyclist in California that stops at lights/stop signs. Seeing folks on the wrong side of the road ON the sidewalk is annoying too - but that's mostly people on department store mountain bikes that aren't really cycling for the sake of cycling. They don't necessarily know that cyclists are not pedestrians.
Right on to all of this.
Back in the days when I still wrote tickets I wrote several to bicyclists - some of which I pulled over while I was riding a bicycle. Most of them were shocked that they had to stop at stop signs.0 -
I always get annoyed by people who ride bikes.. Mainly because as another posted stated, they can't follow the rules.
We don't have bike lanes where I live in Illinois.. so that means you are weaving in and out of traffic in front of my car.. and if I need to stop suddenly and you get hit, well then it's not my fault. There are sidewalks for a reason.. Stay on them!
Would I ever honk, speed off and flip you the bird? No.. thats just uncalled for.
I live in Illinois, and you'd better learn the laws that pertain to you. In Illinois, a bike on the road is treated as any other moving vehicle. If we run a stop sign, we can be ticketed. We must signal turns. If a bike is in a left turn lane in front of you, you must yield right of way until safe to over take. When passing a bicycle, you must give the cyclist a MINIMUM of 3' clearance. And most towns have ordinances prohibiting bicycles on sidewalks(and skateboards). Sidewalks are for pedestrians.
The thing that pi$$es me off is when i see a bicyclist riding against traffic. It's the equivalent of driving the wrong way down a one way street. And we wear the spandex shorts so you know we are riding our bikes on purpose, not because we lost our licence because we got a DUI!
In arlington heights, sidewalks are for people with bicycles..I see it all the time.. both serious cyclists and just leisurely ones. I cannot imagine people going down Palatine Rd on a bike.. Even tho I've seen it, and seen people almost get smashed because people come flying off the frontage, you pull out in front of car going 50 miles an hour and believe they will stop.. and no they don't because they are trying to beat the next light.0 -
Sounds like those stupid, smelly, ruthless, uneducated, drug-influenced PUV drivers here where I live. It's very annoying :mad:0
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It really doesn't matter who is right or wrong, the only rule that always holds true is that in a cyclist vs car collision, the car wins. Always.
I see lots of cyclists that don't obey traffic laws, at all. And I see cars that don't give cyclists an inch. Both may be at fault depending on the situation, but the car always wins.0
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