running- how to control my breathing
Hezzietiger1
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I struggle so much running...
I've always struggled with a little exercise induced asthma but I use an inhaler before my workouts and during if needed to control those symptoms. I thought the out of control breathing in the beginning was mostly just because I was fat and out of shape, but I have been working with a personal trainer since January and I've lost a total of 40 lbs since December. My fitness levels have increased tremendously. I can run.. but I have to do 30 seconds on 30 seconds off... and it doesn't really matter what speed. I can do that at 5mph jog or a 12mph sprint and still get the same result. But even at a light jog, for more than about 60 or 90 seconds, my breathing gets so out of control that I have to stop. I work out 5 days a week,. I play ultimate frisbee and softball-those I can do because they are short burst or running with a few seconds to control my breathing. So many of my friends are into 5k races and trail running, and I want to be also.. but I feel so limited.
Any suggestions or how I can overcome?
I've always struggled with a little exercise induced asthma but I use an inhaler before my workouts and during if needed to control those symptoms. I thought the out of control breathing in the beginning was mostly just because I was fat and out of shape, but I have been working with a personal trainer since January and I've lost a total of 40 lbs since December. My fitness levels have increased tremendously. I can run.. but I have to do 30 seconds on 30 seconds off... and it doesn't really matter what speed. I can do that at 5mph jog or a 12mph sprint and still get the same result. But even at a light jog, for more than about 60 or 90 seconds, my breathing gets so out of control that I have to stop. I work out 5 days a week,. I play ultimate frisbee and softball-those I can do because they are short burst or running with a few seconds to control my breathing. So many of my friends are into 5k races and trail running, and I want to be also.. but I feel so limited.
Any suggestions or how I can overcome?
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The usual reason new runners get out of breath is running to quickly.
Have you tried to breath slowly & deeply based on your footfalls? (when I'm doing a longer slower run I try for 4 in and 4 out, faster paces may be 2 in and 2 out) Are you breathing out fully? (getting all of the Co2 out of your lungs? A common problem for new scuba divers who take shallow breaths - over excitement?)
Maybe you could talk to your trainer about some of the breathing exercises used in yoga to learn to breathe deeply but in a relaxed manner.
Good luck! (I may be biased but running is awesome)0 -
Just keep going.
Distance running is largely determined by the make-up of the fibers in the muscles in your legs, and what they're conditioned for. If they're conditioned to go in fast, quick busts, that's what they'll respond to. To get the slow-twitch fibers conditiomed (the aerobic ones that will help you go farther and are resistant to fatigue), you have to work them more for endurance.
Try and slow down just enough so that you're almost walking, but stay in running form, and that might help. Even if you're going slower running than you would be walking, condition those muscles to keep the running form, and eventually, they will be retrained. It takes time, though, so be patient!0 -
Im the same as above with breathing on footfalls and mainly go by 2 in 2 out rate.
Give it a go - and it gives you something to concentrate on, or speak with your trainer
Good luck and yes running is AWESOME!!!0 -
I agree, you might still be going too fast. I'm no expert, I only started running at the beginning of last month, but I was really struggling with my breathing and read on here how running too fast was the problem. I really was convinced I was going as slow as I could, and couldn't work out what I was doing wrong. After a week or two, I put some slower songs on my MP3 player and forced myself to slow down even more - I felt like I looked ridiculous, and could have walked faster, but I managed to go further and when I checked my PB when I got home, it had improved.0
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Thanks. I just want to be able to run for more than a minute or so without getting so winded that I have to stop. I can probably do 2 on 2 off, but I know I can't do 4 on 4 off. And, like I said, I get winded even at 5 mph. I've always been more of a sprinter and I enjoy that type of running WAY more.. but I'm looking to switch things up a little. Thanks for all your thoughts!0
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I count my breaths and that helps me when I'm having trouble pacing my breathing. With practice, I have developed a sense of the right pace for me and I can tell if I'm going too fast and I make myself slow down and breathe deeper into my stomach instead of "chest" breathing. I know it's not very specific advice, but I've played with it and it works for me, so I thought I'd throw it out there...
Good Luck!!
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The trick is to slow down! You do not have to beat anyone but yourself. It is not a race! remember you only have to beat the voices in your head that are TELLING you to stop! so if you can only run 4.6 miles an hour...who cares? you are running! it will come, I promise! next week you will run 4.7 miles an hour etc! just keep running at that rate until you feel comfortable with it and then move up speed...slightly!0
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I am exactly the same. Can work out on any other machine/do any class for an hour or two/do any other exercise, but I still CANNOT run! My OH is able to run now, but I still can't. It's so frustrating! I do sometimes wonder if it's all in my head, but my lungs tell me otherwise! Maybe the inhaler is actually just a crutch... If anyone does have a magic answer that'd be fab. I am going to try again to build up my stamina when running, but it's bloomin hard isn't it? I think control is the main thing if, like me, all other exercise capability has improved.
Good luck!0 -
"I struggle so much running...
I've always struggled with a little exercise induced asthma but I use an inhaler before my workouts and during if needed to control those symptoms. I thought the out of control breathing in the beginning was mostly just because I was fat and out of shape, but I have been working with a personal trainer since January and I've lost a total of 40 lbs since December. My fitness levels have increased tremendously. I can run.. but I have to do 30 seconds on 30 seconds off... and it doesn't really matter what speed. I can do that at 5mph jog or a 12mph sprint and still get the same result. But even at a light jog, for more than about 60 or 90 seconds, my breathing gets so out of control that I have to stop. I work out 5 days a week,. I play ultimate frisbee and softball-those I can do because they are short burst or running with a few seconds to control my breathing. So many of my friends are into 5k races and trail running, and I want to be also.. but I feel so limited.
Any suggestions or how I can overcome?"
I have the same issue but I was given a tip by a runner in the gym the other day. It sounds weird and yet plausible. She told me to sing whilst breathing in and out. She suggested "Row, row, row your boat", breathing in on a line and out on the next. I plan to try it tomorrow.
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Bumping to re-read all the good tips & advice later. Thanks Hezzietiger1 for asking this question!0
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I'm asthmatic too and used to struggle with the same thing. I still do to a degree, but not as much as before. I've found that if I really concentrate on my breathing by counting the breaths each time my foot hits the floor it really helps. I breathe in through my nose (breaths 1 and 2) then puff out through my mouth (breaths 3 and 4). This even works to slow down or stop the onset of an asthma attack while I'm running - there have been times when I've felt my chest tightening but refocused on my breathing and didn't have to take an inhaler!
Hope you find a pattern that works for you too.
Natalie x0 -
I've definitely noticed my stamina is increased when I take fuller and longer breaths. When I breath too quickly, I definitely get out of breath.
PS I've come to really enjoy running! So I think it's awesome too!0 -
I sing to whatever is playing on my ipod. If I"m at the gym I don't do it outloud obviously, but the natural pauses in the music help me pace and control my breath.0
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I've had this same problem since I was a child and not overweight. I found it impossible to catch my breath while running... which made running the mile in school absolute hell, as I would have to walk it and finish almost last.
But I would always win the sprinting races! At this point I am very overweight but still would like to try to run. Sometimes I try to jog during my walks and sometimes I can only make it past a few mail boxes before I can't breathe again. I'm hoping that with time and practice it will eventually get better. The lungs are muscles like any others and can be trained, right?0 -
I am also Asthmatic and have allergies. Same as most have said. It's the breathing for me too.
I dont do footsteps I do concentrate on exhale out mouth slow and completely. Often I catch myself breathing in quick and out quick and hurting. Its hard to keep breathing controlled and at a slower rate that you are moving but it works for me.
I concentrate on exhale slow and completely and same with inhale. Slow in nose FULL capacity and out mouth FULL capacity. Maybe you may want to practice when you are not active so you can teach yourself to control when exercising.
If needed in and out mouth is ok just make sure you exhale completely each time and keep it controlled.
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I agree with the controlled breathing recommendations. One thing that I have a tendency to do is to run with my shoulders tensed up - not loose and relaxed. It's a natural running motion for me and I have to focus on running relaxed. Maybe finding a running coach to give your form a once over could possibly uncover some things that could make the runs a little easier?
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Finding a breathing pattern really helped me. I started with 3 in and 2 out, and I would make like a swoosh sound on the outs. Goofy but it helped. Now I'm more at a two in two out. I've always been a swimmer so it was an adjustment, you can't breath running like you do swimming!0
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Thanks everyone. Tomorrow morning instead of my typical do as much as I can as fast as I can and burn as many calories possible in the shortest amount of time workout.. I'm gonna go for a nice SLOW jog/walk and work on controlled breathing. I'll let you know how it goes.0
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Try and slow down just enough so that you're almost walking, but stay in running form, and that might help. Even if you're going slower running than you would be walking, condition those muscles to keep the running form, and eventually, they will be retrained. It takes time, though, so be patient!
I have asthma, too-this is what I did. I could literally walk a mile faster than I could run it at first. (I still can't run it very fast but i'm working on it lol.) Slowing down drastically has really helped, and now that i've gotten used to the breathing while running slowly, i'm working on speed-I found it is easier to breathe right going faster now that I just having the basic breathing down. When I say slow, I mean slow. Today I started out at 5.0 on the treadmill and by the time I was done I was only going 3.8-I can walk faster than that lol, but it's helping me build endurance.
Have you tried the c25k program? It starts you out slowly and builds you up to running 30 minutes at a time.0 -
HI
I started running in Jan, and as ppl have said above just go steady and try and get into a breathing rythm that suits you.
i could not run for more than 3 or 4 minutes, at two months i moved up to about 10 minutes and three months in i can now run 30 -40 mins plus.
it will get easier for you, also when you get your breathing right some of it is a mind game, your brain tries to tell you that you need to stop but quite often you dont!.
my wife runs with me now and she could not run for more than about 2 minutes and she now runs for 10 -15 minutes at a time.
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If slowing-down doesn't help (and I 2nd the recommendation to do the Couch-to-5k plan), then I would see your doctor. When I started running it soon became clear that my own EIA was becoming more than just EIA. My asthma was then recategorized as mild-moderate persistent asthma and I started a 2x/daily regimen of inhaled steroids (first I was on Advair, but the side effects of that were making me feel worse than the asthma, itself. I switched to Qvar a couple of years ago and haven't looked back). I still use my rescue inhaler on particularly bad days (when I have a cold or allergies or when the humidity is high).0
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All great advice above! Find what works for you, plus don't over think or stress about it, breathe out mouth, go slow and steady and it will come to you! and btw, Congrats on your desire to 5 k! So much fun!!! You'll LOVE it!!!0
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I heard running and breathing is easier by inhaling through the mouth and exhaling out the nose. I tried it and it works.0
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One trick I use is to spend about 2 minutes breathing heavy before you start to run
When you start running you only start to breath heavy after a couple of minutes, after your oxygen level has dropped. Front load it.
Also, you will always hit a point where you breath heavy, but it passes once you get your second wind0 -
I have asthma as well and in the 3 years I have been running, I have managed to wean down on my Albuterol to the point that I am not inhaler-dependent to exercise. I have found that chewing gum while running actually helps me to regulate my breathing. i still carry my inhaler as a security blanket but I havent used it while running in almost 2 years.0
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I would love to not be dependent on my Albuterol! That is awesome.
Thanks also for the thoughts about seeing my doctor.. maybe the diagnosis is off. My mom (she's a nurse) suggested that I do the same thing, but I'm hard headed, LOL. I'd love to be able to do it without medication at all.
I've had some friends do the couch-2-5k plan w/great results. I might jump in.
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Im the same as above with breathing on footfalls and mainly go by 2 in 2 out rate.
Give it a go - and it gives you something to concentrate on, or speak with your trainer
Good luck and yes running is AWESOME!!!
This, and go slowly!! 2 in 2 out also works if you develope the pain in your side - don't aske me how, but it works...0 -
One thing that REALLY helped me with my breathing was taking yoga classes. Yoga forces you to focus on your breath, and so using that practice while I'm running has helped me TREMENDOUSLY.
Also---go as slowly as you need to. Don't worry about time, just take it easy until your body adapts.0
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