Starving at 1300 cals?

rachelfaith92
rachelfaith92 Posts: 202 Member
edited December 18 in Health and Weight Loss
So I was a little hungry when I first started and had it set at 1200 cals, I upped it to 1300. I can eat, get full (off of a 290 cal meal and feel ready to burst) and then three hours later be absolutely starving. I want to lose weight quickly, but I feel like even though I am constantly eating, I am never satisfied for long. I usually grab a handful of nuts or a 90 cal granola bar to bide me over and don't log that, so most days as of lately I am around 1400. Should I bump myself back down to 1200? Not sure what to do, I have a very active job where I am on my feet from 6:45am till 3:30pm. Are there any other foods I could eat to hold me over? I drink a lot of water first before eating, and while eating. I eat a lot of protein. I don't know what else to do, any help would be awesome
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  • AReasor
    AReasor Posts: 355 Member
    At that point, when I couldn't possibly eat more, I added protein powder. I was getting HANGRY, bad. That helped push down the hunger. I hate smoothies, I just mix some vanilla protein powder with skim milk. Once in the morning and sometimes in the afternoons depending on my level of activity.
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    I don't have an opinion as to whether you should increase your calories or not. You should make that decision based on whether you are losing weight at the rate you want and how you feel.

    However, foods that keep me full longer tend to be less carbs and more protein and fat. Nuts sometimes make me hungry. Eggs keep me full. If I eat just a granola bar, I'll be hungry again in about 30 minutes. I often eat an apple with peanut butter or celery with hummus. Those types of things keep me full.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    Protein, fiber, fat, complex carbs .... all these things help you stay full longer.

    If you are very active .... 1200 might be too low. I have a desk job ... so 1200 is OK for me.
  • Awkward30
    Awkward30 Posts: 1,927 Member
    I personally feel that you should never have to be hungry. Even while dieting. First focus on what you are eating. Greens are the best way to eat a lot of bulk and feel full without eating many calories. I just ate about 50 cals of collard greens and I feel like I ate a lot. Then look at your weight loss. If you are losing more than one pound a week, up your cals and eat more.
  • shovav91
    shovav91 Posts: 2,335 Member
    If you have an active job, you surely aren't eating enough. Hunger is your body's way of telling you it needs more fuel. In my opinion, increase your calories to around 1500 and see what happens after a few weeks. Try adding more protein as well as fiber to your diet.
  • Leannek74
    Leannek74 Posts: 374 Member
    Try more protein or even more carbs... they keep you full feeling longer
  • SaraSweetheart
    SaraSweetheart Posts: 34 Member
    are you eating properly hun? are you eating the proper amount? calculate your BMR manually... I have to do it every once in a while. I'll show you how using myself.

    The formula we use is 655 + (4.35 X weight in lbs) + (4.7 X height in inches) - (14.7 X age in years)

    I am 22 years old, I am 5 feet 6 inches, and I weigh 151 lbs. So, here's my BMR:

    BMR = 655 + (4.35 X 151 lbs) + (4.7 X 66 inches) - (14.7 X 22 years) BMR = 1298. 65 calories

    But, I want to lose weight. I am pretty much sedentary, so I am going to multiply this number by 1.2. If you are moderately active (ex. 5 hours of exercise weekly) multiply your BMR by 1.5. So, 1298.65 X 1.2 = 1558.36 is what I can eat to maintain my current weight.

    I want to lose weight, but not go into starvation mode (OR ANY WEIGHT LOSS WILL BE TEMPORARY AND MY METABOLISM WILL BE DESTROYED) , so I am going to decrease my calories by either 10-20%. I am going to use the maximum 20%. So, 1558.36 X 0.8 = 1246.688. I am going to eat 1250 calories daily NET.
  • bprague
    bprague Posts: 564 Member
    http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

    use it. never go below it because that is how much you need to simply stay alive.
  • rachelfaith92
    rachelfaith92 Posts: 202 Member
    I work at a 24 hour Emergency Veterinary hospital. I am helping prep animals for surgery, lifting, carrying dead weight of animals ranging from 1lb to 50+lbs. I am bringing up 6lb to 50lb bags of food that is ordered from clients, and obviously focusing on keeping the animals all clean with fresh bedding, walking the dogs, etc. I did try eating lots of veggies and fruit, but the same thing would happen. I am hoping to find some sort of mid ground. I am afraid to increase my calories too much because I really want this weight gone fast. Would sticking to an extremely high protein and low carb diet help? I did the southbeach diet before and had great results, but it isn't a realistic lifestyle change and the minute you eat carbs you gain back. Just really confused
  • asamuels85
    asamuels85 Posts: 170 Member
    oops sc
  • asamuels85
    asamuels85 Posts: 170 Member
    is it hunger pangs or like getting light headed from not enough cals?? I am asking because I have a hard time adjusting to small tweaks in cals or even time of day i eat. After upping my cals only to 1300 i felt as if I was starving between meals.. but hunger pangs starving, not famished HUNGRY. i don't know if its the same as what i experienced but after about a week my body got used to eating breakfast regularly and they stopped.

    If you EVER feel famished hungry, stop thinking about the cals and just eat, the right stuff, and plenty of it.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    are you eating properly hun? are you eating the proper amount? calculate your BMR manually... I have to do it every once in a while. I'll show you how using myself.

    The formula we use is 655 + (4.35 X weight in lbs) + (4.7 X height in inches) - (14.7 X age in years)

    I am 22 years old, I am 5 feet 6 inches, and I weigh 151 lbs. So, here's my BMR:

    BMR = 655 + (4.35 X 151 lbs) + (4.7 X 66 inches) - (14.7 X 22 years) BMR = 1298. 65 calories

    But, I want to lose weight. I am pretty much sedentary, so I am going to multiply this number by 1.2. If you are moderately active (ex. 5 hours of exercise weekly) multiply your BMR by 1.5. So, 1298.65 X 1.2 = 1558.36 is what I can eat to maintain my current weight.

    I want to lose weight, but not go into starvation mode (OR ANY WEIGHT LOSS WILL BE TEMPORARY AND MY METABOLISM WILL BE DESTROYED) , so I am going to decrease my calories by either 10-20%. I am going to use the maximum 20%. So, 1558.36 X 0.8 = 1246.688. I am going to eat 1250 calories daily NET.

    I used two different calculators and I think your calculation is a bit low. One came in at 1519 and the other at 1460.

    The Harris-Benedict Formula, which I think you are using, is:

    WOMEN: BMR = 655 + [9.6 x weight (kg)] + [1.8 x height (cm)] - [4.7 x age (years)]

    However, it has been considered, by some, to be inaccurate.
  • sarahharmintx
    sarahharmintx Posts: 868 Member
    If you have an active job, you surely aren't eating enough. Hunger is your body's way of telling you it needs more fuel. In my opinion, increase your calories to around 1500 and see what happens after a few weeks. Try adding more protein as well as fiber to your diet.

    I agree with this. I eat 1320 per day but I have a desk job with little activity.
  • upmihah
    upmihah Posts: 17 Member
    I also have an active job - and was eating 1300. Recently I switched to 1500 and continue to lose weight, while not feeling like I'm starving. Usually I eat 3 meals of around 400 calories each, and that leaves room for a snack or two. Apples, almonds, and popcorn are the snacks I fall back on the most. If you're hungry all the time, stretching your calories to include a snack and/or fourth meal will help your body/mind know it won't be hungry for long.
  • Ashatack
    Ashatack Posts: 41
    Fiber would help you quite a bit. There is a lot of fiber in a lot of fruits and vegetables as well as snack crackers and so forth. You should look to Self.com for some help with that. One of their current stories is about "super foods" that will help keep you full and satisfied as well and help jump start your metabolism to help you burn fat all day. Plus eating breakfast makes a huge difference. Self.com says eating within 90 minutes of waking is key to starting your metabolism for the day.
  • sarahwright01
    sarahwright01 Posts: 229 Member
    It sounds like to me you are a "fast oxidizer" I would go to this website and take the survey (which was orgiginally pulled from Jillian Michaels.) Either print it off or write down your answers. It will help you understand what it means to be a "fast oxidizer" and which kinds of foods to eat to carry your self over from meal to meal. ......

    http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/weight-loss/metabolic-types-eating/page/1
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    I work at a 24 hour Emergency Veterinary hospital. I am helping prep animals for surgery, lifting, carrying dead weight of animals ranging from 1lb to 50+lbs. I am bringing up 6lb to 50lb bags of food that is ordered from clients, and obviously focusing on keeping the animals all clean with fresh bedding, walking the dogs, etc. I did try eating lots of veggies and fruit, but the same thing would happen. I am hoping to find some sort of mid ground. I am afraid to increase my calories too much because I really want this weight gone fast. Would sticking to an extremely high protein and low carb diet help? I did the southbeach diet before and had great results, but it isn't a realistic lifestyle change and the minute you eat carbs you gain back. Just really confused

    The veggies and fruit have the fiber you need. But, you need to add protein/fat to them (i.e. peanut butter or cheese to go with the veggies/fruit).

    South Beach helps keep hunger at bay, because it focuses on protein and fiber filled foods. Even if you're not doing the SB diet, using it as a guideline isn't a bad idea. Fill up on proteins and fiber filled carbs, you stay fuller longer.
  • rachelfaith92
    rachelfaith92 Posts: 202 Member
    I get the grumbly stomach growling slight headache type of symptoms after a little while. I am 5'4 at 157 and 19 years old. I try to have at least one serving of nuts, along with fruit. I drink a protein shake and a eat a protein bar for breakfast which holds me over for about 3-4 hours and then by lunch I am absolutely starving to the point where I shake and my stomach feels like its eating itself. I eat cottage cheese for my "brunch" snack, and another protein bar or nuts or something as my after lunch snack. I drink at least 1 liter of water a day, if not more. It's just frustrating to be hungry and unable to focus. I always drink water when I get that hungry feeling, but it comes back 10 minutes later but with a vengeance lol!
  • Cheri_Moves
    Cheri_Moves Posts: 625 Member
    I agree, I think you need to be eating more. In my personal experience, If your BMI is within "healthy" range, and you are not eating AT LEAST at your BMR, you WILL NOT LOOSE. Increase as the other posters have suggested and give it at least a month before giving up and going back to 1200 cals/day because you are afraid of "gaining" weight.

    The last few pounds are often very hard to loose and we have to be strategic about getting rid of them! Good luck and make your health your first priority!
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    I get the grumbly stomach growling slight headache type of symptoms after a little while. I am 5'4 at 157 and 19 years old. I try to have at least one serving of nuts, along with fruit. I drink a protein shake and a eat a protein bar for breakfast which holds me over for about 3-4 hours and then by lunch I am absolutely starving to the point where I shake and my stomach feels like its eating itself. I eat cottage cheese for my "brunch" snack, and another protein bar or nuts or something as my after lunch snack. I drink at least 1 liter of water a day, if not more. It's just frustrating to be hungry and unable to focus. I always drink water when I get that hungry feeling, but it comes back 10 minutes later but with a vengeance lol!

    Based on 5'4", 157 lbs and 19 yrs old, your BMR is around 1500. You need to up your daily intake.

    ETA: 1500 should be your net minimum. You should probably average 200-300 above BMR net calories/day.
  • Christine1110
    Christine1110 Posts: 1,786 Member
    If you eat only fresh foods you can eat much more, for less calories. All processed foods are loaded with extra junk and calories. I started eating only lean meat freash foods and have lost 18 pounds in about 5 weeks. It has been a bit hard to figure out what to eat without eating lots of the thing I used to eat, but I'm doing good now....and feeling great too.

    Foods higher in fiber keep you full longer also.

    Good luck
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    I don't eat fewer than 1500-1600 calories a day when trying to lose.
  • kokaneesailor
    kokaneesailor Posts: 337 Member
    I'm not reel smart, butt it sounds like your calorie intake is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to low. I think you need to re calculate everything. And there are plenty of really smart people on this site that can help you with that. Good luck.:smile:
  • rachelfaith92
    rachelfaith92 Posts: 202 Member
    I still have 12 pounds before I am in the "healthy" range, so I thought I would TRY to hold out to 1200-1300 range until I met that and then go up to 1500. I have my days off and on one of those days I stay the entire day in bed watching tv, computer, relaxing, and I never eat a lot on those days, I'm just not that hungry for one. It is only the days I work that I am absolutely famished. I did notice when I ate a bunch of chocolate and didn't log it (leftover easter ****, ate about 1550 cals that day) I lost two pounds over the course of 3 days, and that was freaking chocolate!

    So if I do up my calories should I just base it at 1500? Should I switch my goals to eat more protein less carb? This whole thing is super confusing and the easiest part was just trying to stay under 1300 but at least 1200
  • C00lCountry
    C00lCountry Posts: 282
    are you eating properly hun? are you eating the proper amount? calculate your BMR manually... I have to do it every once in a while. I'll show you how using myself.

    The formula we use is 655 + (4.35 X weight in lbs) + (4.7 X height in inches) - (14.7 X age in years)

    I am 22 years old, I am 5 feet 6 inches, and I weigh 151 lbs. So, here's my BMR:

    BMR = 655 + (4.35 X 151 lbs) + (4.7 X 66 inches) - (14.7 X 22 years) BMR = 1298. 65 calories

    But, I want to lose weight. I am pretty much sedentary, so I am going to multiply this number by 1.2. If you are moderately active (ex. 5 hours of exercise weekly) multiply your BMR by 1.5. So, 1298.65 X 1.2 = 1558.36 is what I can eat to maintain my current weight.

    I want to lose weight, but not go into starvation mode (OR ANY WEIGHT LOSS WILL BE TEMPORARY AND MY METABOLISM WILL BE DESTROYED) , so I am going to decrease my calories by either 10-20%. I am going to use the maximum 20%. So, 1558.36 X 0.8 = 1246.688. I am going to eat 1250 calories daily NET.
    Is this just for women or what? This thing says I am way over my calories per day.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    Looks like you're eating very calorically dense foods, so you will DEFINITELY be hungry at 1300 calories a day. Try eating more fruits, veggies, and lean meats. Brown rice and quinoa are good as well. You can eat around 3 pounds of food a day at 1300 calories if your food averages 1 calorie/g density, which is a reasonable target when eating these types of foods. I guarantee you that you won't be hungry if you do that.
  • rachelfaith92
    rachelfaith92 Posts: 202 Member
    So basically I should be eating lots of raw fruits/veggies and such. Is it bad to eat protein bars or shakes? I enjoy them, and never saw them as "unhealthy." What about cheese, like cheese sticks, cottage cheese, maybe even yogurt or hummus?
  • gmeringue
    gmeringue Posts: 2 Member
    There's no way that 1300 can be enough for someone your height, weight, etc. It seems like you're getting activity everyday at work. Have you tried out a couple of those formulas? They're actually really helpful. Good luck!
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    I still have 12 pounds before I am in the "healthy" range, so I thought I would TRY to hold out to 1200-1300 range until I met that and then go up to 1500. I have my days off and on one of those days I stay the entire day in bed watching tv, computer, relaxing, and I never eat a lot on those days, I'm just not that hungry for one. It is only the days I work that I am absolutely famished. I did notice when I ate a bunch of chocolate and didn't log it (leftover easter ****, ate about 1550 cals that day) I lost two pounds over the course of 3 days, and that was freaking chocolate!

    So if I do up my calories should I just base it at 1500? Should I switch my goals to eat more protein less carb? This whole thing is super confusing and the easiest part was just trying to stay under 1300 but at least 1200

    Change your macro settings to 40% carbs/30% protein/30% fat. Holding at a number below BMR is not going to be a benefit. It will actually hurt in the long run. When eating below TDEE you are going to lose some lean body mass. If you aren't strength training and eating sufficient protein, you will lose much more LBM.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    So basically I should be eating lots of raw fruits/veggies and such. Is it bad to eat protein bars or shakes? I enjoy them, and never saw them as "unhealthy." What about cheese, like cheese sticks, cottage cheese, maybe even yogurt or hummus?
    Protein shakes are ok if they are pure protein powder, not like muscle milk or w/e (you might as well just drink a milkshake at that point). Basically anything that is high in fat is going to be very dense, and not very filling per calorie. I'd start off eating cheese/hummus/etc. in very small quantities, and once you figure out how much fruits/veggies/meats/rice/quinoa you need to fill you up, you can increase your intake to whatever allows you to be full.

    For me, lean turkey and quinoa are my favorites. If I eat til I feel like I am going to explode, it's something like 600-800 calories.
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