For those who criticize.......
microwoman999
Posts: 545 Member
how bad your grammar is!........
I can read it can you?????
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too. Cna yuo raed tihs?
Olny smoe plepoe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd
waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig
to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the
ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer
be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it
whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I was awlyas
tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
I am not an English major and it just stuck with me the last time someone corrected my
spelling and or abbreviation on one of these forums. We are here trying to get advice from others and trying
to better our lives! I wish people would be more considerate with that! I was made fun of
enough when I was a kid for being fat! I don't need to be made fun of now for my incorrect
spelling or abbreviation! I was already scarred for life you don't need to continue!
Please and thank you.
I can read it can you?????
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too. Cna yuo raed tihs?
Olny smoe plepoe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd
waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig
to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the
ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer
be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it
whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I was awlyas
tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
I am not an English major and it just stuck with me the last time someone corrected my
spelling and or abbreviation on one of these forums. We are here trying to get advice from others and trying
to better our lives! I wish people would be more considerate with that! I was made fun of
enough when I was a kid for being fat! I don't need to be made fun of now for my incorrect
spelling or abbreviation! I was already scarred for life you don't need to continue!
Please and thank you.
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lol thats great I'm a horrible speller and i could read that just as fast as anything else.0
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I had to post it for fun and to make others aware of how some people may feel. It really caught me off guard but was soo cool :noway:0
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I mean, it's one thing when you're writing a paper away from the computer, but there IS such a thing as spell check, and you DO have access to the internet... Meaning you can always Google a word you're not sure about spelling, not sure how to use, etc. It literally takes 5 seconds.
We literally have access to ALL information but human beings aren't getting any smarter. It's really sad.
"No, we aren't in English class. But just because we're not in a physics classroom, doesn't mean gravity stops working."0 -
Love this!!0
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I mean, it's one thing when you're writing a paper away from the computer, but there IS such a thing as spell check, and you DO have access to the internet... Meaning you can always Google a word you're not sure about spelling, not sure how to use, etc. It literally takes 5 seconds.
We literally have access to ALL information but human beings aren't getting any smarter. It's really sad.
"No, we aren't in English class. But just because we're not in a physics classroom, doesn't mean gravity stops working."
I am not aware of EVERY mistake I type.....are you? It is not like I do it just to make a spectacle of myself! I am sure others who make mistakes don't know it either until somebody makes sure to point it out! That is my point. We are HUMAN, we make mistakes and that is life. Everyone needs to get off their high horse.0 -
I didn't have a problem reading that, but it was written using correct grammar/punctuation. The words used were spelled properly in the sense that all of the letters needed to correctly spell the words were there. I didn't see a "losoe" in there instead of a "lsoe", and it wasn't written in txt tlk. It was easy to understand because it was still proper English and proper spelling. Proper spelling and punctuation is quite important in written language to accurately convey your message. A misspelled word can have an entirely different meaning than intended thus changing the meaning of an entire sentence, and changing a single sentence can change the meaning of a paragraph.
We should try to write properly on the internet. Most browsers can check your spelling as you type, and then it takes only a second to correct an error. There isn't a good reason why anyone should give up speaking or writing properly.
ETA: None of us are perfect, and we all make mistakes. We shouldn't get upset when those mistakes are brought to our attention unless the manner in which they're brought to our attention is hostile, abusive, or rude. We should learn from those mistakes and try not to keep making the same ones.0 -
Pretty much everyone should be able to read it. The mind is used to reading the written word, and auto-adjusts in some cases. It's why we need spell check, because scanning through a paper you could easily over look a typo, because your mind just won't recognize it if it can make sense of it without. Think of it as a computer translating broken english to proper.0
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I mean, it's one thing when you're writing a paper away from the computer, but there IS such a thing as spell check, and you DO have access to the internet... Meaning you can always Google a word you're not sure about spelling, not sure how to use, etc. It literally takes 5 seconds.
We literally have access to ALL information but human beings aren't getting any smarter. It's really sad.
"No, we aren't in English class. But just because we're not in a physics classroom, doesn't mean gravity stops working."
I am not aware of EVERY mistake I type.....are you? It is not like I do it just to make a spectacle of myself! I am sure others who make mistakes don't know it either until somebody makes sure to point it out! That is my point. We are HUMAN, we make mistakes and that is life. Everyone needs to get off their high horse.
Misspelled words almost always have a red line under them when typing in a browser... It's pretty glaring and noticeable. You're pretty much on your own for grammar, but that's what proofreading is for. I read every post at least twice before I hit the "send/post reply" button. Just sayin'.0 -
English is not my native language and it is the case for many of us here. Think about it.
P.s. often I will use a word that I think is right but I use the wrong spelling (soar vs sore) and hopefully my friends tell me0 -
I mean, it's one thing when you're writing a paper away from the computer, but there IS such a thing as spell check, and you DO have access to the internet... Meaning you can always Google a word you're not sure about spelling, not sure how to use, etc. It literally takes 5 seconds.
We literally have access to ALL information but human beings aren't getting any smarter. It's really sad.
"No, we aren't in English class. But just because we're not in a physics classroom, doesn't mean gravity stops working."
Was the misuse of 'literally' deliberate in this post?
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English is not my native language and it is the case for many of us here. Think about it.
Thing is, it's often the case that second language users use English less sloppily than many native English speakers. I've seen many of your posts, and never thought 'wow, that chick's language usage is bad'. Or even worse 'I really can't understand what that poster is saying'. Unfortunately, the same can't always be said for many apparently English speaking posters.
I don't think it's asking a lot that people at least try to make their posts coherent.0 -
I've actually found that those who have english as a second language are better with spelling and grammar, because they have to pay more attention. I'm not an English teacher either, but I do notice when something isn't correct. I never say anything though. I just cringe and move on. I think the people that correct others on their spelling or grammar, just want to feel superior for some reason. Not my cup of tea :flowerforyou:0
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I don't understand what the research finding you mention has to do with grammar. The finding that the placement of letters within a word has little to do with the ability to read, especially when one is essentially skimming (as people often seem to do in forums) is interesting, but does not pertain to issues of grammar and style.
Years ago I skimmed a document looking for a specific key word/subject (a technical term), when I found the appropriate section, and actually tried to read, I figured out very quickly that the entire document was in Dutch. Does my ability to visually scan for a specific term and find that term mean that I could understand the rest of the paragraph that was written in Dutch? No, it does not. My point is that word scanning and comprehension are two entirely different skills, just because I can figure out what word you intended to use (a spelling error) does not mean I can make sense of what you are trying to say overall. So much of what I see written in forums is very "stream of consciousness," often to the point that I do not know what the author of the post is trying to say. I'm not hung-up on grammar, but I'm often left shaking my head at the posts I read.
Also, many people seem to type in either all caps or all lower case, this is very hard to read, especially if they do not use punctuation either.0 -
Melissant, you are entirely right.0
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Yeah I remember when this was going around the internet like 10 years ago. I've never understood why it says, "If you can read this, you have a strange mind", and then goes on to explain that letter order doesn't matter. Makes no sense at all.0
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I used to be something of a grammar/spelling Nazi, but not anymore. I learned to read when I was two and write when I was three, so it's always seemed innate to me (since I don't remember learning it). It used to drive me crazy when people would make the same obvious mistakes over and over.
Then I met my boyfriend. He's very intelligent and tries his hardest, but has a serious learning disability when it comes to writing. He knows generally what it should look like but has extreme difficulty replicating it. I've been helping him for years (we've been together for nearly nine years now) and he's made incredible improvement, but it's slow going.
I think a lot of people simply chalk it up to laziness or apathy (which I still think is a significant factor for many bad spellers), but fail to realize that there may be legitimate reasons behind it.0 -
I am a self-confessed grammar nazi, and I first saw this thing years ago, but I still love it.0
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"No, we aren't in English class. But just because we're not in a physics classroom, doesn't mean gravity stops working."
^^O.M.G, I LOVE this
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I think it's more helpful to correct someone than to let it go. What if the person doesn't realize they are doing it?
Also, Firefox, tells me when I mistype, problem solved. Of course word usage can't be helped there..your, their, lose,etc.0 -
Second this. Of all the things we have to worry about in whatever weight struggle we're in, someone's spelling/grammar is really inconsequential. I try my best but I'm certainly not going to worry whether I've spelled every little thing correctly or that I have perfect punctuation. Does that make me lazy? Maybe - but like anything, life is too short to sweat the small stuff. If you don't like how I wrote it, don't read it.I've actually found that those who have english as a second language are better with spelling and grammar, because they have to pay more attention. I'm not an English teacher either, but I do notice when something isn't correct. I never say anything though. I just cringe and move on. I think the people that correct others on their spelling or grammar, just want to feel superior for some reason. Not my cup of tea :flowerforyou:0 -
I might be able to read that, but I don't want to try. My head hurts already...0
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I don't think anybody seriously minds spelling mistakes or typos, we all make them especially when we're trying to bang something out or we're tired.
I think the 2 things so called grammar nazis get frustrated with, myself included, is a) when the article is incoherent and you're unsure of the OP's original point, b) when it's lazy writing - text speak, abbreviations or references that are assumed to be known by all. This is why so many threads quickly head off in the wrong direction.
If English isn't your first language or you have communication/learning problems, most people will cut you plenty of slack if they're aware. I agree though, too many people are happy to jump in and criticise without thinking about that circumstance.
But it's the internet, so not a lot of point complaining - posts and their responses will always be aggregated by the lowest common denominator, and that's usually Joe Stupid.0 -
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I didn't have a problem reading that, but it was written using correct grammar/punctuation. The words used were spelled properly in the sense that all of the letters needed to correctly spell the words were there. I didn't see a "losoe" in there instead of a "lsoe", and it wasn't written in txt tlk. It was easy to understand because it was still proper English and proper spelling. Proper spelling and punctuation is quite important in written language to accurately convey your message. A misspelled word can have an entirely different meaning than intended thus changing the meaning of an entire sentence, and changing a single sentence can change the meaning of a paragraph.
We should try to write properly on the internet. Most browsers can check your spelling as you type, and then it takes only a second to correct an error. There isn't a good reason why anyone should give up speaking or writing properly.
ETA: None of us are perfect, and we all make mistakes. We shouldn't get upset when those mistakes are brought to our attention unless the manner in which they're brought to our attention is hostile, abusive, or rude. We should learn from those mistakes and try not to keep making the same ones.
No your correct on the spelling I can easily right click and fix that. Yes the person who did this to me was not very nice about it and I was not even talking about grammar, spelling, or punctuation in that message board. It was purely for fun and the person went straight after me on my writing. I felt it was rude and incompetent to do so. I am not trying to attack anyone on here but merely explain how I feel on the subject. I do not purposely write incorrectly. I have tried to stay away from posting on message boards because of that reason and I should not have to feel that way. I don't want anyone to take offense to this post. The misspelled writing part was just for fun into bringing me into the conversation as I had seen it on FB and thought it would be a creative way to start my message board.0 -
I mean, it's one thing when you're writing a paper away from the computer, but there IS such a thing as spell check, and you DO have access to the internet... Meaning you can always Google a word you're not sure about spelling, not sure how to use, etc. It literally takes 5 seconds.
We literally have access to ALL information but human beings aren't getting any smarter. It's really sad.
"No, we aren't in English class. But just because we're not in a physics classroom, doesn't mean gravity stops working."
I am not aware of EVERY mistake I type.....are you? It is not like I do it just to make a spectacle of myself! I am sure others who make mistakes don't know it either until somebody makes sure to point it out! That is my point. We are HUMAN, we make mistakes and that is life. Everyone needs to get off their high horse.
Misspelled words almost always have a red line under them when typing in a browser... It's pretty glaring and noticeable. You're pretty much on your own for grammar, but that's what proofreading is for. I read every post at least twice before I hit the "send/post reply" button. Just sayin'.
Yes I agree that when it highlights your mistake you can easily fix it. I can correct spelling very easily because of that. However if you use a word like there or their it does not put a line underneath it. In this case I did not catch a mistake like that and was criticized on it. as I said to someone else this was purely to tell people how I felt because I did feel like I was being attacked in an older post I had. The crazy paragraph in the beginning was a creative way to start my message board and i thought it was very interesting. I do appreciate how you have handled chatting with me, I feel you have been very civil and I thank you for that.0 -
I don't understand what the research finding you mention has to do with grammar. The finding that the placement of letters within a word has little to do with the ability to read, especially when one is essentially skimming (as people often seem to do in forums) is interesting, but does not pertain to issues of grammar and style.
Years ago I skimmed a document looking for a specific key word/subject (a technical term), when I found the appropriate section, and actually tried to read, I figured out very quickly that the entire document was in Dutch. Does my ability to visually scan for a specific term and find that term mean that I could understand the rest of the paragraph that was written in Dutch? No, it does not. My point is that word scanning and comprehension are two entirely different skills, just because I can figure out what word you intended to use (a spelling error) does not mean I can make sense of what you are trying to say overall. So much of what I see written in forums is very "stream of consciousness," often to the point that I do not know what the author of the post is trying to say. I'm not hung-up on grammar, but I'm often left shaking my head at the posts I read.
Also, many people seem to type in either all caps or all lower case, this is very hard to read, especially if they do not use punctuation either.
My point of the paragraph above was that it did not hurt anyone to read that paragraph. It was just proving to people that even if someone spells something wrong you could probably make out what it was without criticizing someone (yes I know the whole thing was crazy and not just one word). Its not the end of the world if something is spelled wrong or the wrong word is in the sentence and I am just cluing people in on the fact that sometimes bringing it up publicly can really get to someone, especially someone who may be more sensitive. Like I said I have been picked on all of my life and I just feel that we don't need to do it here. My thoughts on here is not to hurt peoples feelings but to help people. I am making it aware to others on how I feel and maybe others who misspell or put that wrong word in the sentence.0 -
I don't think anybody seriously minds spelling mistakes or typos, we all make them especially when we're trying to bang something out or we're tired.
I think the 2 things so called grammar nazis get frustrated with, myself included, is a) when the article is incoherent and you're unsure of the OP's original point, b) when it's lazy writing - text speak, abbreviations or references that are assumed to be known by all. This is why so many threads quickly head off in the wrong direction.
If English isn't your first language or you have communication/learning problems, most people will cut you plenty of slack if they're aware. I agree though, too many people are happy to jump in and criticise without thinking about that circumstance.
But it's the internet, so not a lot of point complaining - posts and their responses will always be aggregated by the lowest common denominator, and that's usually Joe Stupid.
Well it made me feel better to post it so I did. Again just something to let people think about. I am sure that people don't realize how much that can bother someone when things are misspelled. It works both ways and if you are going to correct someone it would be nice to not feel the size of a beetle that can just keep getting stepped on. Just my point.0 -
This is funny0 -
The grammar/ spelling natzis just need to stfu (do you understand abreviations?) and leave the criticizing to English professors in an English class. If someone is trying to get a message across in a post/comment, I'm pretty sure a misspelled word here or there isn't preventing the reader from understanding it. If it is, then maybe the reader has an issue with comprehension, just sayin'0
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there's no t in Nazi, and 2 b's in abbreviation. but i'm good with the stfu. :-)0
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