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  • tinawharrison
    tinawharrison Posts: 123
    I just glanced at your diary, I can tell you first off its probably your diet why your not losing weight. Plus drinking any kind of alcohol pretty much destroys almost a full week of exercising depending on how many you have. Soda is also a big problem, water or green tea is the best. just some info

    I guess i'll stay the same weight for ever then? I've lost a fair bit so far with the odd night out and a low calorie alcoholic drink that is counted in my daily allowance...

    Life is for living, after all! :laugh:
  • lanzaroteblue
    lanzaroteblue Posts: 198 Member
    I just glanced at your diary, I can tell you first off its probably your diet why your not losing weight. Plus drinking any kind of alcohol pretty much destroys almost a full week of exercising depending on how many you have. Soda is also a big problem, water or green tea is the best. just some info

    I guess i'll stay the same weight for ever then? I've lost a fair bit so far with the odd night out and a low calorie alcoholic drink that is counted in my daily allowance...

    Life is for living, after all! :laugh:




    Have you thought of having a break from your limits for a day or 2 to give your body a shock?
    I have a 'splurge day' every week (which I log even though it is terrifying reading) where I eat and drink anything I want and I'm losing 1 lb a week pretty constantly.

    Whatever you do, REMEMBER, you're doing something right as you've already lost lots of weight and this is just a blip that you WILL get over.

    Good Luck
    Nicola :flowerforyou:
  • tinawharrison
    tinawharrison Posts: 123
    I just glanced at your diary, I can tell you first off its probably your diet why your not losing weight. Plus drinking any kind of alcohol pretty much destroys almost a full week of exercising depending on how many you have. Soda is also a big problem, water or green tea is the best. just some info

    I guess i'll stay the same weight for ever then? I've lost a fair bit so far with the odd night out and a low calorie alcoholic drink that is counted in my daily allowance...

    Life is for living, after all! :laugh:




    Have you thought of having a break from your limits for a day or 2 to give your body a shock?
    I have a 'splurge day' every week (which I log even though it is terrifying reading) where I eat and drink anything I want and I'm losing 1 lb a week pretty constantly.

    Whatever you do, REMEMBER, you're doing something right as you've already lost lots of weight and this is just a blip that you WILL get over.

    Good Luck
    Nicola :flowerforyou:

    Thank you! I did the 'eat what you want for a day' approach and guess what? I put on 2 pounds!! My metabolism is so ridiculous! I will keep going though because you are all so encouraging! Thanks for taking the time to read and help!

    :happy:
  • jeremysherriff
    jeremysherriff Posts: 11
    Check your BMR! (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/tools/bmr-calculator) This is the minimum amount of calories you need to take in to make sure you body doesn't believe you're starving. :smile: It will likely be much higher than your goal calories. Then, make sure you exercise enough to get your calories back down to your goal.

    Also, remember that muscle mass burns calories - so include at least some type of strength exercises in your routines.
  • kazhowe
    kazhowe Posts: 340 Member
    Hi Tina, I know how discouraging it can be not to lose weight week after week but please don't give up - you have done so well! I just wondered how much you lost in March? Maybe if you lost a fair amount then - your body is just hanging on to what it has until you give it a kick start again. Some years ago I lost a similar amount of weight - 2 stones - with WW and then I just got stuck, and for 7 weeks I never lost a thing but I kept at it and eventually started losing again. So I hope that for you this will start to resolve itself very soon - and just think to yourself how much better the new Tina feels as opposed to the old fatter less fit Tina. Keep going! :smile:
  • prettybub
    prettybub Posts: 54 Member
    I just glanced at your diary, I can tell you first off its probably your diet why your not losing weight. Plus drinking any kind of alcohol pretty much destroys almost a full week of exercising depending on how many you have. Soda is also a big problem, water or green tea is the best. just some info

    I was going to say the Same thing. Alcohol slows your weight loss down HEAPS. Each nip is worth 30 mins plus\s of EXTRA exercise to burn it off. And it Slows your metabolism more because your liver has to work harder to rid itself of the toxins from it. It can take days for your body to recover well enough again to help metabolise food properly. Hard spirits are worse. IF you are going to drink white spirits are sightly better and I would mix with Diet sodas . BUT prepare for repercussions.I gram of Alcohol is comparable to a gram of Fat. Fat is 9 calories per gram and alcohol is 7 per gram. it also means that any alcohol your body has is being burnt off FIRST instead of food. So calories from Food are instantly stored.

    http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories/calories_in_alcohol/calories_in_spirit_brands.html
  • LTGPSA
    LTGPSA Posts: 633 Member
    Hi There, Tina. So, you've increased your water intake for approximately 1 week - which is good (since before that your water intake was 0), but you still could use more water. Also, out of that same week there are at least 2 days where you leave over 400 calories on the books. It's going to take a little more effort on your part to balance things out and then patience is key too; i.e. one week of minor changes isn't going to change everything immediately. Give it another week, try to drink even more water and not leave as many calories on the books. I'm just sharing with you what has worked for me. Good luck! :flowerforyou:
  • peachlow
    peachlow Posts: 91
    Trust me this is no walk in the park and slow weight loss is better than no weight loss...I'm sure most people didn't gain 10lbs in 1 month so I guess we shouldn't expect to lose that much either...

    Stay positive and find what works for you...I've been losing since 2008 and it does fluctuate...but I can say I look and feel better I started on MFP approx 16months ago and have lost approx 22-26lbs which is pretty good..

    I try to loose 1-4lbs a month so that I can keep it off...I only weigh once a month and measure once a month...alternate between cardio and strength exercises....also maintain my sodium intake to approx 2,000-2,500 daily...so make sure you check your sodium intake and your not going over it makes a big difference...no matter how much water you drink or how much you work out if your over in the sodium you will retain water weight...

    Best of Luck and always "Motivate YourSelf"..

    “People often say that motivation doesn’t last. Well, neither does bathing – that’s why we recommend it daily.” – Zig Ziglar

    Following your passion isn’t effortless. There are many who think it should be, which is another obstacle holding them back from taking action. This is not a walk in the park. It’s a path of rapid growth. It contains both joy and fear. But you can change your life and along the way change someone else's...don't give up..its only the beginning...:drinker:
  • nina1968
    nina1968 Posts: 86 Member
    I know just how you feel. I am not getting anywhere either. I work so hard at it. I am so very disappointed in myself. I am at a lose myself
  • markyb1977
    markyb1977 Posts: 28 Member
    I had a two week stability but since then it has been dropping off nicely.
    It actualy works out at the 2lb per week average I was hoping for but my muscle tone is much better too. I have abs, although they are still hidden behind some fat.

    Keep momentum and try not to change too much, desperation often leads to failure, just be patient, its just simple maths, if you arnt really tired all the time your eating enough to match your activity levels. You body generally tells you when your messing up.

    Patience is the key, the is nothing wrong with doing the right things.
  • soulynyc
    soulynyc Posts: 302 Member
    i was losing weight nicely.. then i introduced exercise.. and started to gain pounds.. :( no inches lost either. but im going to keep pushing at it. somethng has to give. do not give up. keep pushing.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I just glanced at your diary, I can tell you first off its probably your diet why your not losing weight. Plus drinking any kind of alcohol pretty much destroys almost a full week of exercising depending on how many you have. Soda is also a big problem, water or green tea is the best. just some info

    I was going to say the Same thing. Alcohol slows your weight loss down HEAPS. Each nip is worth 30 mins plus\s of EXTRA exercise to burn it off. And it Slows your metabolism more because your liver has to work harder to rid itself of the toxins from it. It can take days for your body to recover well enough again to help metabolise food properly. Hard spirits are worse. IF you are going to drink white spirits are sightly better and I would mix with Diet sodas . BUT prepare for repercussions.I gram of Alcohol is comparable to a gram of Fat. Fat is 9 calories per gram and alcohol is 7 per gram. it also means that any alcohol your body has is being burnt off FIRST instead of food. So calories from Food are instantly stored.

    http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories/calories_in_alcohol/calories_in_spirit_brands.html

    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?
  • ddiestler
    ddiestler Posts: 353 Member
    I'm in the same boat! I've barely lost any and am working out a ton..it is discouraging, frustrating, and heartbreaking all at once.. eat exercise calories, don't eat exercise calories, eat bmr, don't eat bmr...aaaahhhhh ugh! what to do, what to do, why does it work so well for others and not so well for some of us.. all I know is we have to hang in there.. at least we are making positive changes regarless of the damn scale!

    Dawn
  • tinawharrison
    tinawharrison Posts: 123
    I'm in the same boat! I've barely lost any and am working out a ton..it is discouraging, frustrating, and heartbreaking all at once.. eat exercise calories, don't eat exercise calories, eat bmr, don't eat bmr...aaaahhhhh ugh! what to do, what to do, why does it work so well for others and not so well for some of us.. all I know is we have to hang in there.. at least we are making positive changes regarless of the damn scale!

    Dawn

    Go Us!!!! :happy:
  • jazalla25
    jazalla25 Posts: 11
    You might want to change up yoru workout, that is what my dad (trainer) says to do, and it works, because your body can get used to the same workout over and over.

    just a thought, I am no onw to speak becasue I have much to lose
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
    You seem to be eating quite a bit of starch--bread, potatoes, and cereal bars--and too little fat. I also notice several alcoholic drinks a week; while there's nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, it can slow or stop weight loss for some people, more than you'd expect from just the amount of calories consumed.
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?

    Do an Internet search on "alcohol slows weight loss". I've seen it mentioned in several reputable diet books. Something to do with the way the alcohol is metabolized by the liver.

    Look closer at her diary--she's having more than just a glass or two some days. I see at least one day a week in the past month with six or seven servings (or more) of whiskey & Diet Coke, or a couple of liters of beer or hard cider. That could certainly halt weight loss.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?

    Do an Internet search on "alcohol slows weight loss". I've seen it mentioned in several reputable diet books. Something to do with the way the alcohol is metabolized by the liver.

    Look closer at her diary--she's having more than just a glass or two some days. I see at least one day a week in the past month with six or seven servings (or more) of whiskey & Diet Coke, or a couple of liters of beer or hard cider. That could certainly halt weight loss.

    Care to quote from reputable medical articles rather than 'diet books'?
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?

    Do an Internet search on "alcohol slows weight loss". I've seen it mentioned in several reputable diet books. Something to do with the way the alcohol is metabolized by the liver.

    Look closer at her diary--she's having more than just a glass or two some days. I see at least one day a week in the past month with six or seven servings (or more) of whiskey & Diet Coke, or a couple of liters of beer or hard cider. That could certainly halt weight loss.

    Care to quote from reputable medical articles rather than 'diet books'?

    I realize you're going to defend drinking no matter what; but OK, here are a few:

    1. Siler, S.Q., Neese, R.A., & Hellerstein, M.K. (1999). De novo lipogenesis, lipid kinetics, and whole-body lipid balances in humans after acute alcohol consumption. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 70, 928-936
    2. Buemann, B., Toubro, S., & Astrup, A. (2002). The effect of wine or beer versus a carbonated soft drink, served at a meal, on ad libitum energy intake. International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders, 26, 1367-1372
    3. Valimaki, M.J., Harkonen, M., Eriksson, C.J., & Ylikahri, R.H. (1984). Sex hormones and adrenocortical steroids in men acutely intoxicated with ethanol. Alcohol, 1, 89-93
    4. Heikkonen, E., Ylikahri, R., Roine, R., Valimaki, M., Harkonen, M., & Salaspuro, M. (1996). The combined effect of alcohol and physical exercise on serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone, and cortisol in males. Alcoholism, Clinical and Experimental Research, 20, 711-716
    5. Kvist, H., Hallgren, P., Jonsson, L., Pettersson, P., Sjoberg, C., Sjostrom, L., & Bjorntorp, P. (1993). Distribution of adipose tissue and muscle mass in alcoholic men. Metabolism, 42, 569-573
    6. Raben A, Agerholm-Larsen L, Flint A, Holst JJ, Astrup A. (2003). Meals with similar energy densities but rich in protein, fat, carbohydrate, or alcohol have different effects on energy expenditure and substrate metabolism but not on appetite and energy intake. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 77, 91-100
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?

    Do an Internet search on "alcohol slows weight loss". I've seen it mentioned in several reputable diet books. Something to do with the way the alcohol is metabolized by the liver.

    Look closer at her diary--she's having more than just a glass or two some days. I see at least one day a week in the past month with six or seven servings (or more) of whiskey & Diet Coke, or a couple of liters of beer or hard cider. That could certainly halt weight loss.

    Care to quote from reputable medical articles rather than 'diet books'?

    I realize you're going to defend drinking no matter what; but OK, here are a few:

    1. Siler, S.Q., Neese, R.A., & Hellerstein, M.K. (1999). De novo lipogenesis, lipid kinetics, and whole-body lipid balances in humans after acute alcohol consumption. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 70, 928-936
    2. Buemann, B., Toubro, S., & Astrup, A. (2002). The effect of wine or beer versus a carbonated soft drink, served at a meal, on ad libitum energy intake. International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders, 26, 1367-1372
    3. Valimaki, M.J., Harkonen, M., Eriksson, C.J., & Ylikahri, R.H. (1984). Sex hormones and adrenocortical steroids in men acutely intoxicated with ethanol. Alcohol, 1, 89-93
    4. Heikkonen, E., Ylikahri, R., Roine, R., Valimaki, M., Harkonen, M., & Salaspuro, M. (1996). The combined effect of alcohol and physical exercise on serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone, and cortisol in males. Alcoholism, Clinical and Experimental Research, 20, 711-716
    5. Kvist, H., Hallgren, P., Jonsson, L., Pettersson, P., Sjoberg, C., Sjostrom, L., & Bjorntorp, P. (1993). Distribution of adipose tissue and muscle mass in alcoholic men. Metabolism, 42, 569-573
    6. Raben A, Agerholm-Larsen L, Flint A, Holst JJ, Astrup A. (2003). Meals with similar energy densities but rich in protein, fat, carbohydrate, or alcohol have different effects on energy expenditure and substrate metabolism but not on appetite and energy intake. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 77, 91-100

    Why exactly would you assume that?

    In any case, thank you for the references - it will be interesting reading to see if they show that someone on a significant calorie deficit will actually gain weight.

    edited.
  • prettybub
    prettybub Posts: 54 Member
    I just glanced at your diary, I can tell you first off its probably your diet why your not losing weight. Plus drinking any kind of alcohol pretty much destroys almost a full week of exercising depending on how many you have. Soda is also a big problem, water or green tea is the best. just some info

    I was going to say the Same thing. Alcohol slows your weight loss down HEAPS. Each nip is worth 30 mins plus\s of EXTRA exercise to burn it off. And it Slows your metabolism more because your liver has to work harder to rid itself of the toxins from it. It can take days for your body to recover well enough again to help metabolise food properly. Hard spirits are worse. IF you are going to drink white spirits are sightly better and I would mix with Diet sodas . BUT prepare for repercussions.I gram of Alcohol is comparable to a gram of Fat. Fat is 9 calories per gram and alcohol is 7 per gram. it also means that any alcohol your body has is being burnt off FIRST instead of food. So calories from Food are instantly stored.

    http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories/calories_in_alcohol/calories_in_spirit_brands.html

    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?

    Caloric content of fat, protein, carbohydrates and alcohol.

    Calories are needed to provide energy so the body functions properly. The number of calories in a food depends on the amount of energy the food provides. The number of calories a person needs depends on age, height, weight, gender, and activity level. People who consume more calories than they burn off in normal daily activity or during exercise are more likely to be overweight.

    Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
    Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
    Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
    Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories

    Source:http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/calories.htm But I also studied Nutrition as part off My Fitness Instructor Course. Your body WILL burn the alcohol off FIRST before Fat, And any calories consumed With the alcohol will be stored. Hence it slowing fat loss.
  • ka97
    ka97 Posts: 1,984 Member
    Your overall calories on somedays seem pretty low. Plus you are getting a good number of those calories from alcohol, which means you are not really fueling your body. Not so good for the metabolism. Not sure of the timing of all of your meals, but it looks as though your breakfast calories are very low. Maybe try to shift more of your calories to the morning. If you have a drink or two in the evening, the alcohol slows your metabolism. Then you sleep all night. Get up in the morning, metabolism is slower from alcohol and sleeping, then you don't give your body any fuel, metabolism stays slow. Could also try an early morning workout. Personally I'm not a morning person, but I've heard from others it's a great way to start the day.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    . BUT prepare for repercussions.I gram of Alcohol is comparable to a gram of Fat.

    She is logging her alcohol and only has a glass or two every now and again so this has no bearing on her weight loss. Where did you read that 1g of alcohol is comparable to 1g of fat?

    Caloric content of fat, protein, carbohydrates and alcohol.

    Calories are needed to provide energy so the body functions properly. The number of calories in a food depends on the amount of energy the food provides. The number of calories a person needs depends on age, height, weight, gender, and activity level. People who consume more calories than they burn off in normal daily activity or during exercise are more likely to be overweight.

    Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
    Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
    Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
    Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories

    Source:http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/calories.htm But I also studied Nutrition as part off My Fitness Instructor Course. Your body WILL burn the alcohol off FIRST before Fat, And any calories consumed With the alcohol will be stored. Hence it slowing fat loss.

    Yup - I know the stats - so 1g alcohol =/= 1g fat.

    If you at a calorie deficit is does not matter what is stored - you are at a deficit.
  • Deutsche1999
    Deutsche1999 Posts: 10
    have you checked your measurements? you may be loosing inches and not weight.... and yes I know that can be so frustrating but keep going.. you are healthier, happier and it will get there :flowerforyou:
  • wilson1024
    wilson1024 Posts: 126 Member
    Same here but I did lose some in inches so at least I'm losing something. Don't give up! It will eventially turn out good for you! Anything you are doing to better yourself is a good thing :) Time and patience and determination!
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    No weight loss again, increased calories slightly, had one small treat that hardly made me go over yesterday, drank piles more water... out of ideas now! Lost 2 lbs in the whole of April, how disappointing! :'(

    I am losing weight incredibly slowly. I am very short, and I have a pretty high lean body mass for my weight. I keep my calories up because too big of a deficit will put me below my BMR very quickly. I don't have a lot of room to play with. I have been working out harder each and every week. The scale still moves very slowly - about .5 a week. I have lost 2 pant sizes though. The scale is only one measure of your success. Are you feeling better? Are you stronger? Do you have more endurance? These are the things that really should matter the most. Best of luck!
  • MrsPong
    MrsPong Posts: 580 Member
    Are you taking before/after pictures and your measurments (before/after)?? It may show more than the scale will.
  • SuffolkSally
    SuffolkSally Posts: 964 Member
    You seem to be undereating most days. Have you calculated your BMR and TDEE and worked out a realistic calorie target? If not I think you should! Also there's a lot of processed food - all the sodium doesn't help! I think the jury's out on the alcohol issue - I've learnt that I have to not drink it if I want to lose weight, but in my case I think it's because it affects my motivation so much...

    Don't give up. Start afresh, and give it a month of eating ABOVE BMR and a realistic percentage below TDEE, eat proper food, and give it a month. I bet you a drink of your choice that you'll see weight loss.
  • NancyL1221
    NancyL1221 Posts: 5 Member
    You need to take 3-5 days and double your calories (seriously!!). After a couple of days just cut back 500 calories or so. If you are only eating 1200-1500 calories, your metabolism is not working properly. There are many websites that will give you an approximate amount of calories you need to maintain your weight. Use them and then cut back by only 300-500 and you'll see better results. Most people have trouble with the concept of eating more to lose weight. Let me explain:

    If you are like me - 5'7" 190 lbs - I need approx. 2500 calories a day to maintain my weight. I'm also an avid exerciser and I have a great deal of muscle mass. I am currently doing something called carb cycling - every other day no/low carb vs. high carb. Low carb days I'm eating 1800-2000 calories, high carb days are 2200-2400. And I've lost 10 pounds in 5 weeks - something I haven't been able to do for almost 2 years.

    You have to fuel your body for it to work properly. Raise your calories for a short period of time and then cut back - your body will reset.
  • MMAQueen
    MMAQueen Posts: 279 Member
    A couple things:
    1. Try replacing the alchohal with water and tea. If water is boring, add lemon/lime juice.
    2. Balance out your macros, your sugar/carbs are really high, and your protien fat is low. MFP has the defaults set very carb high.
    3. Don't count on MFP being accurate on calories burned for exercise. as an example, it says my 60 minute brazillian jiu jitsu classes burn just under 800 calories! There is no way this is accurate. Unless i was "sparring" the entire 60 minutes, then MAYBE).
    4. Get your thyroid checked out. You've mentioned several times you have slow metabolism. If your thyroids having trouble, there may be help for you there.
    5. Try coconut oil. It's loaded with great fats and is good for cooking with, or adding to smoothies, or oatmeal. It can help get your metabolism going.
    6. Try to eat more in the morning, and not eat after 6 or 7 pm.
    7. Don't get disheartened. You've done very well so far losing 14kg!
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