How much should I worry about...

AmyM713
AmyM713 Posts: 594 Member
Sodium if I'm drinking 8 glasses of water a day? I have been trying to buy reduced sodium everything but I still seem to be constantly over. I finally took that off of my food diary today because I can't stand looking at the number. I was trying to stay at 2000mg or less but it seems like the only way food companies think they can put taste into their foods is by infusing it with tons of sodium. I cut all extra salt out of any recipe I make and try to use healthy spices.

I find one of the biggest culprits is high sodium levels in cheese, is there something I should be looking for when buying cheese to have lower sodium?

Anyone else have this problem or do you just not let sodium get to you?

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  • cookieta76
    cookieta76 Posts: 91 Member
    You really need to check every label and try to buy fresh. Even bread is high in sodium. I used to eat a lot of lean cuisine and stuff like that - low in Cal's, but high, high, high in sodium. I limit cheese, pre-seasoned meats, deli meats, anything like that. I even make my own fries - never buy the frozen bags of fries (my kids love this stuff). I also get most of my recipes from "skinny" sites like Gina's skinnytaste.com - there are so many sites like this. And if you're drinking lots of water, then yes, you should be OK, but there are so many ways to cut the sodium. Good luck!
  • debbiestine
    debbiestine Posts: 265 Member
    Just eat clean and you won't have to worry about it. fruits,veggies, lean meats, fish, and dairy- stay on the outside of the grocery store and away from prepackaged stuff. good luck!
  • AmyM713
    AmyM713 Posts: 594 Member
    Thanks, I try to eat as fresh/clean as possible. I will keep watching the labels
  • Clean eating is key- everything processed has a TON of sodium.
    I know it's kinda hard to start- but making things homemade is the only way you can control the sodium.
    There are some great magazines out there- like Clean Eating- that give awesome recipes. The only thing that I do eat sometimes
    is lunch meat- but the brand "Healthy Ones" is really low in sodium (as far as lunch meats go) Cheese is a nightmare... no suggestions on that.. I pretty much gave it up.
  • I don't let sodium bother me. It doesn't affect me as I have no heart issues and I don't retain fluids. There is research coming to light that higher sodium levels is not the enemy once thought (similar to cholesterol, fat and any number of nutrition bugaboos). http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt While that link itself isn't a study, it quotes other studies.

    I think that the battle cry of "reduce your sodium!" is similar to the Eggs Will Kill You Crowd. Basically, further science is needed and if sodium isn't affecting you in a measurable, negative way, don't worry so much. :)
  • LiddyBit
    LiddyBit Posts: 447 Member
    If I may add another sodium question to this discussion, from the opposite end of the scale - Should I worry that I never come anywhere near my sodium allowance? I just...don't eat a lot of sodium. I don't try to avoid it. Just happens...I think the food I eat with the highest level of sodium is my protein powder.
  • momma_a
    momma_a Posts: 117 Member
    Too long to post here, but read up on fluid & electrolytes. Your body needs sodium, and if you are drinking enough water you should be okay. I find it funny that people worry more about sodium than they do potassium.
  • wftiger
    wftiger Posts: 1,283 Member
    If you are in a high risk group then you should worry a lot. http://highbloodpressure.about.com/od/understandyourrisk/tp/risk_tp.htm

    Yes your body needs sodium but only 180 mg. Yep, that is all your body needs. All the rest is too much unless you run marathons. http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/publications/dietaryguidelines/2010/meeting2/commentattachments/aha-220e.pdf

    And drinking water does not flush it out. http://www.livestrong.com/article/529042-does-drinking-water-flush-out-sodium-in-the-body/ (sorry I didn't want to take the time to look that up on AHA site so this one will do).

    Pretty much every food (except many fruits) have sodium. Don't go by MFP numbers as they are wrong. So if you think you don't meet the 1500 that AHA recommends you likely do. You are likely close to the 3500 that is causing the HBP issues in most industrialized countries.
  • LiddyBit
    LiddyBit Posts: 447 Member
    Um...actually I am nowhere near 3500. I am probably under 1000 most days, around 800-ish. Even if the MFP numbers are off, that's a helluva margin of error.
  • AmyM713
    AmyM713 Posts: 594 Member
    I am not in a high risk group, actually just had blood work done this month and everything came back looking great, doc was pretty impressed. I don't mind if I'm retaining water since I'm at a healthy weight anyways so the number on the scale although nice to see it go down doesn't bother me as much any more. I am just wanting to work on building muscle and eat the right foods, I love fresh fruits and veggies, baking/cooking from scratch, using fresh herbs for flavor and not all the sodium. I don't do a lot if any boxed dinners any more and am trying to get away from canned goods and use more frozen or fresh products. I guess I will just keep working at clean eating and change a little at a time, I am not only worried about myself but my family, I want my kids and husband to be healthy too and since I'm the one who cooks the meals I feel responsible.
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    if you are hydrated (nice light pee is the indicator) and you get sweaty on a regular basis, you have nothing to worry about.
  • The Institute of Medicine, part of the National Academy of Sciences, issued a report that lowered the recommended daily amount of sodium. Previously, the daily allowance was 2500 milligrams, but it has been lowered to 1500 milligrams per day. The report set the maximum intake per day at 2300 milligrams but recommended not exceeding 1500 milligrams

    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_the_recommended_sodium_intake_per_day#ixzz1tXwJjB31
  • Basically NO MORE than 1 tsp per day =:bigsmile: ~)
  • Sonnie124
    Sonnie124 Posts: 96 Member
    The less you buy canned/boxed and processed foods the less you have to worry about sodium!
  • scottstephens79
    scottstephens79 Posts: 77 Member
    The only cheese I allow myself is Swiss, it seems to be only 40-80mg per slice, as opposed to cheddar (320mg+). All others I've looked at are in the 150-200mg range. Swiss is more expensive but it works for me.
  • AmyM713
    AmyM713 Posts: 594 Member
    Basically NO MORE than 1 tsp per day =:bigsmile: ~)

    Wow I don't want to know what my salt intake was before I started logging my food. I love how these groups love pulling numbers out of their *kitten* and think its magical!
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    Yes your body needs sodium but only 180 mg. Yep, that is all your body needs. All the rest is too much unless you run marathons. http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/publications/dietaryguidelines/2010/meeting2/commentattachments/aha-220e.pdf

    That's not what the site you're quoting says. The site you're quoting says "under conditions of maximal adaptation and without sweating", you need 180mg. Unless you don't sweat at all, you'll need more.
  • awal2069
    awal2069 Posts: 101 Member
    As far as cheese goes, I try to buy the Sargetos all natural baby swiss as the sodium levels are low, as is calories.
    Good luck!
  • SirBen81
    SirBen81 Posts: 396 Member
    I spent several months on a low sodium diet of less than 800mg per day just to see how it would make me feel. I didn't feel any different, and it had no effects on my fitness ability or my vitals. So I went back to the average 2,500+mg per day.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Sodium is irrelevant unless you already have sensitivity issues or HBP. As hard as doctors have tried to prove that sodium causes hypertension, science has shown time and again that sodium levels have nothing to do with it. It can aggravate hypertension if you already have it, but it won't cause it.

    Also, if potassium levels are equal to or higher than sodium levels, then sodium is cancelled out.

    As for sodium being "flushed out by water." That's not how osmosis works.
  • tsh0ck
    tsh0ck Posts: 1,970 Member
    Sodium if I'm drinking 8 glasses of water a day? I have been trying to buy reduced sodium everything but I still seem to be constantly over. I finally took that off of my food diary today because I can't stand looking at the number. I was trying to stay at 2000mg or less but it seems like the only way food companies think they can put taste into their foods is by infusing it with tons of sodium. I cut all extra salt out of any recipe I make and try to use healthy spices.

    I find one of the biggest culprits is high sodium levels in cheese, is there something I should be looking for when buying cheese to have lower sodium?

    Anyone else have this problem or do you just not let sodium get to you?

    how much should you worry? I wouldn't much at all. honestly. I don't even track my sodium now. or sugar, for that matter. you are, presumably, eating better now than you were before you started. if you are watching that, eating within your limits otherwise, you are already cutting way back on previous sodium level. so that's already better.

    here's the thing. first, sodium isn't the devil. we actually need some in our bodies. and excess won't make you gain weight. it may make you retain some water at times. but that's it.

    and you make a good point about drinking water. that's how you dump excess sodium. we lose 90 to 95 percent of our sodium through urination. more water, more bathroom breaks, more sodium flushed out. working out will get rid of a bit, through sweating. and eat foods high in potassium. when sodium and potassium are balanced, your body won't hold onto as much.
  • AmyM713
    AmyM713 Posts: 594 Member
    Okay I am confused as to why potassium and sodium work together is there something I can read on this? I love learning how the body works when we fuel it correctly and little by little I'm learning. Actually gonna google potassium and sodium right now but if anyone has a good article to read on the relation I would love to take a look.

    I will have to look into swish cheese, but I do cook with cheese a lot and mozzarella or sharp cheddar are very popular, I try to cut the amounts in half to make it a little bit better.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I stopped fussing over sodium. I'm normally around 2000, sometimes more, sometimes a LOT more if I have pizza. I know it's not something that has any impact on fat loss, I take in a lot of fluids and sweat buckets when I exercise, and have good blood pressure.

    But I do choose frozen or fresh vegetables over canned. Not only are they less sodium, but taste better, too.
  • BrettPGH
    BrettPGH Posts: 4,716 Member
    I'm over on sodium so frequently I finally stopped tracking it. I make sure to drink plenty of water daily and it's never seemed to hinder my weight loss.

    I think when people say to cut all sodium down to a teaspoon or whatever they're just being needlessly unrealistic. You can lose weight without growing all your own food in the backyard.
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    I'm over on sodium so frequently I finally stopped tracking it. I make sure to drink plenty of water daily and it's never seemed to hinder my weight loss.

    I think when people say to cut all sodium down to a teaspoon or whatever they're just being needlessly unrealistic. You can lose weight without growing all your own food in the backyard.

    I don't add salt to anything and everything is home made except for bread and I still go over my sodium so I also stopped tracking it.
  • AmyM713
    AmyM713 Posts: 594 Member
    Well its good to know I'm not the only one that is/was struggling with keeping sodium intake down.

    I use to be that person that salted their food before tasting it, everything got salt. I now never use it, not even sure why its in my house because I refuse to put it in my recipes or on my food and no one else really uses it. I don't enjoy my food any less.

    I wish food companies/restaurants could be held accountable for what they put in their food, I hate that I can't go to a restaurant and eat a healthy meal without them making up for it in the sodium department for example applebees under 550 calories menu, I get the sirloin steak, veggies, and shrimp for 500 cals but a whopping 2440 mg of sodium!!
  • momma_a
    momma_a Posts: 117 Member
    Sodium& potassium do not have an inverse relationship like some other electrolytes do. They don't really 'cancel each other out', per se. Sodium is extracellular, potassium is intracellular (one is a cation & the other an anion). Your kidneys excrete potassium, so if someone has renal failure or whatnot, their body holds onto that potassium & it can go dangerously high. This is why people need dialysis; it gets rid of all the things that build up in the blood as a result of the kidneys not being able to filter. Like the OP said, if you are drinking enough water & not taking in obscene amounts off sodium (or have high BP), you should be fine.