scary side of protein powder

It's time to find a new doctor!!

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count down 4 mores days b4 weight in, need to lose 2.5 lbs

As long as the "flimsy" muscles are still impressive looking I'm gonna keep drinking protein shakes

It's time to find a new doctor!!

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count down 4 mores days b4 weight in, need to lose 2.5 lbs

I agree 100%. Your doctor is a nut.

Haha!

Naw, the scary side of protein powder is when you buy the really crappy kind that is loaded with tons of artificial garbage. When I want protein powder, I want protein.

And no matter how scary, NOTHING beats protein powder's beautiful side: the ability to make anything into a high-protein treat! Chocolate oatmeal, vanilla milkshakes, protein brownies...YUM!

I agree!! I love my protein powder! :bigsmile: No flimsy muscle here!

I like Designer Whey also and just tried the Biggest Loser Designer Whey (double chocolate) in my oatmeal this morning. Yum!

WTF is flimsy muscle? That's a new one on me.

Despite the fact that I would estimate that 95+% of those taking protein powder do so unnecessarily, that is one of the more off the wall reasons I have heard for recommending against it.

Don't know about the silly flimsy muscle comment, but the part about absorbing it faster is probably true, however that does depend on the type of protein as well. Whey protein absorbs pretty fast, egg protein a little slower and casien protein slower still. Most people take Whey before/after working out and a casien type before bed. Again, it depends on your diet and how much and the types of protein you are already consuming.

hemp is a complete protein, I've heard that hemp protein powder is good to use. Unless you work out like an elite athlete or are a picky-eating vegan, I doubt you need it though.

i checked back with the doctor and he said that its called flimsy muscle because it can be lost quicker....idk...but I love the swimming pool comment! very classy

what can i say...."classy" is my middle name.

Whuh-oh, he's got a case of FLIMSY MUSCLE!

Yeah, whey protein does absorb faster...and drinking it adds to that...but right after a workout you NEED a mix of carbs and fast-absorbing protein. Then a good meal not too long after. Casein protein, on the other hand, absorbs very slowly. Eat some cottage cheese at night and you're basically taking a protein IV.

But unless you're a serious weight lifter, all the little nitty gritties of protein are kind of pointless. Just get lots of it (from great sources such as eggs, lean meat, dairy, and whey) and bam, problem solved.

And stay the hell away from rice protein powder. That stuff can make the mightiest collapse into fitful retching.

i checked back with the doctor and he said that its called flimsy muscle because it can be lost quicker....idk...but I love the swimming pool comment! very classy

As far as I've ever heard, that's not true. Did he elaborate on why it's lost quicker? I'm calling bull$h1t on that one. I think he was just trying to sound smart. Not the first time I've seen a doctor try to meddle with nutrition. Doctors (by that I mean GP doctors), receive very little training in nutrition from most medical programs. Most receive 1 semester early on in Pre-med, and that's it. A few programs have stepped up their preventative medicine lessons, but not that many. There was a wide scale survey put out a few years ago on nutrition (I saw it in the New England Journal of Medicine, but I don't know which issue as I read it online) and the majority of doctors received a 60% or below. That shocked me big time. Not saying any one particular doctor is suspect, but when you make statements like "flimsy muscle", it throws up red flags in my mind. this is why I preach the virtues of registered dietitians (NOT nutritionists) as they go through extensive training and need to be certified and keep their registration up to date.

Often ran into the same problem with doctors re exercise, esp for cardiac patients when I used to run cardiac rehab programs.

The problem is not that doctors are not educated--it's that there is too much knowledge for any one person to absorb, no matter how brilliant. The importance of exercise and nutrition is being emphasized more as part of a medical practice, so many doctors are emphasizing these more, but I don't think they have any more training than before. Plus, our current system makes it virtually impossible for docs to effectively engage in detailed lifestyle counseling.

Personally, I don't want my doc to be an expert in exercise or nutrition. There are plenty of people out there who dedicate their professional lives just to those areas. I want him/her to be an expert in medical issues--I don't want him/her to overlook a dangerous infection, medication side effect, etc because he/she was up late reading the latest ACSM or NSCA journal. In my ideal world, he/she just needs to have the awareness to know what he doesn't know and how to find the referral slip to a dietitian or clinical exercise physiologist.

Obviously, I am exaggerating to make a point. It has always been a battle to have exercise professionals taken seriously by the medical establishment (and that includes many nurses as well). Exercise is not seen as a complicated "science". It doesn't help that a large number of "fitness experts" that the lay person comes into contact with are frauds, hucksters, and unprincipled self-promoters. One need only look at the so-called "Fitness and Health Professionals Group" on Linked In to see what I mean.

Speaking of doctors and nurses...you know what really shocks me. Going to the doctor's office or the hospital and seeing how many stand outside and smoke. Seriously, am I the only one that finds that shocking? If I knew my doctor was a smoker, I'd change doctors. That would be about the same level of ignorance as a Suicide Prevention Counselor putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger.

Speaking of doctors and nurses...you know what really shocks me. Going to the doctor's office or the hospital and seeing how many stand outside and smoke. Seriously, am I the only one that finds that shocking? If I knew my doctor was a smoker, I'd change doctors. That would be about the same level of ignorance as a Suicide Prevention Counselor putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger.

I've seen it also. A little scary. I worked in a hospital, more nurses smoked than anyone else. That's just plain YIKES to me!

It doesn't seem that farfetched to me. Every day they see people under 30 dying for the stupidest reasons you could imagine. With that in mind, I think they just prefer quality of life to quantity. Same reason a number of doctors are obese - they flat out don't care that much because they realize far more than the average person how transient life is. At least that's how one of my friends feels - she's a neurologist.

Then again, she's also the same one who said that people who are in the terminal stages of illness should smoke, drink, do drugs, blast rock and roll, and in general have a great time because they may as well enjoy what they have left. :laugh:

I don't see smoking as raising quality of life of an otherwise healthy person. I know I HATED the fact that I smoked, and I know it prevented me from performing at my highest levels, which both lowered my quality of life. Not to mention (and doctors and nurses know this) that is makes you more susceptible to viruses and immune system issues, the smell is like repellent in clubs and bars to many, and ruins your skin. All things that lower your quality of life IMHO.

Well if doctors and nurses wanna kill themselves. Hey thats great. I guess I'm more concerned with the image and message they are creating for their patients. Whether it be a hospital or family care practice. I mean, here you are "saving lives" and preaching to someone about taking care of their quality of life...meanwhile the patients are walking in and out.... with the staff smoking 50 yards from the front door. Yeah I think that is kinda unnacceptable. I don't care what crazy philosophy they've come up with about "living life to the fullest". They should know better. And if anything, do it in the privacy of your own home, not at a place of work.

Believe me, I'm the last one to trample on someone's civil rights. Everyone can do as they please. I'm all about that. Go smoke, go drink till your liver explodes and do lines off a hooker's *kitten*...I don't care. Just don't do it in public. Or atleast in an atmosphere that is a bit more appropriate like a bar, casino or strip club. haha