The Biggest Loser

Patwin55
Patwin55 Posts: 100 Member
edited September 20 in Health and Weight Loss
I saw the first episode of Season Eight last night to get a little motivation, I thought. I was so shocked! Why does Jill have to scream and cuss at people? That's not motivation, that's abuse! Don't heavy people have enough low self-esteem already?
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  • Mamakatspokane
    Mamakatspokane Posts: 3,098 Member
    But think of the high self esteem they will have when they can do it and she tells them she's proud of them :smile:
  • TCASMEY
    TCASMEY Posts: 1,405 Member
    I agree last night Jillian and Bob both seemed a little extreme for the first workouts with new people. I know they need motivation to get them up and moving but I hate swearing so much that I know it would not make me work-out harder but want to wash their mouths out with soap.
  • kirahooper
    kirahooper Posts: 5
    I also watched the first episode of the Biggest Loser last night to get some kind of motivation. I work out every morning for at least an hour with trainer but I don't get screamed at like that. Maybe that's her way of trying to bring reality to people.
  • TByrd1325
    TByrd1325 Posts: 920 Member
    We were only shown like 20 minutes of hours of exercising. I doubt she's like that 24/7.
  • kelfeene
    kelfeene Posts: 78 Member
    Agreed with TBYRD!
  • MissKim
    MissKim Posts: 2,853 Member
    sometimes when we are harsh to our bodies and let ourselves get to that point it takes someone being harsh to us to get the point! tough love. everyone reacts differently in that situation. some people are motivated by encouragement and some people won't get off their butts enless someone makes them (me!), i'm sure they offer the best of both worlds to these people. it works! so don't guess they will complain!
  • jlefton1212
    jlefton1212 Posts: 171 Member
    I read an interview with her and got the impression that when she made her transition from overweight to super fit, it was because a coach challenged her in the same way. It's an approach that works well for some people because anger is a huge motivator. Also, when are successful and the coach says "good job" it means that much more because you really had to earn it. This approach seemed to work for Alexandra.
  • courtney_love2001
    courtney_love2001 Posts: 1,468 Member
    know where I can watch it online? tried hulu and it said it won't be available until next week! grrrr
  • heather0mc
    heather0mc Posts: 4,656 Member
    boo! i was counting on hulu! :angry:
  • MissKim
    MissKim Posts: 2,853 Member
    HULU IS THE BEST! Can you watch it on the actual biggest loser website?
  • chellebelle315
    chellebelle315 Posts: 298
    while I think we get an edited version, that focuses on the screaming....when people are that far out of control it takes a serious interruption in their patterns and thinking to change their mindset......sometimes a little screaming is what's needed...
  • kelly_a
    kelly_a Posts: 2,010 Member
    i think you can still be affective screaming and in ppl's faces without swearing.:bigsmile:
  • Mamakatspokane
    Mamakatspokane Posts: 3,098 Member
    i think you can still be affective screaming and in ppl's faces without swearing.:bigsmile:
    I agree but the swearing makes it more shocking which equals higher ratings....we have to remember it's a TV show, no matter how motivating it is sometimes :wink:
  • jlefton1212
    jlefton1212 Posts: 171 Member
    I actually liked it when she said, "LET GO OF THE F*ING TREADMILL!!" :laugh:
    I could have used that advice a couple years ago when I started using the treadmill. I was terrified to let go! And you never know...she could have asked nicely 5 times and then had to get mean when they weren't responding to nice.
  • kelly_a
    kelly_a Posts: 2,010 Member
    sorry, never a fan of swearing no matter what the circumstances.
  • pinkbutterfly23
    pinkbutterfly23 Posts: 6
    I personal thought it was a great show last night. After the show I actually wanted to know how many hours they workout in a day and I was shocked when I came across this article. Here is the link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24097852/

    According to this they workout for 4 to 6 hours a day!!!
  • preggo5
    preggo5 Posts: 11
    I read an interview Jill gave. Did you know she weighed 175 and 14 and got kicked out of karate class for sneaking in cheetos. Maybe it took someone (her dad) yelling at her for her to change?
  • blessedtobefit
    blessedtobefit Posts: 157 Member
    I totally agree with kelly_a. There is never a time to use swearing to get people motivated. My husband is a ISSA certified fitness trainer and he has seen tremendous results in his clients who are 200, 300, 400 plus pounds. In 5 months one client lost 60 pounds by pure hard work and dedication without us getting in her face and screaming at her. She isn't on a diet, but made a life change and hasn't looked back. He has also been my coach and pushed me to limits I never thought I could go and helped me break through to freedom. There is so much more to the issue of weight loss than just the "number of pounds" a person needs to loose. It goes far deeper than that to the heart of the person. Until you can realize how and why you got to that point every pound lost is only temporary and over time will climb right back on as you fall back into old habits. You can encourage, motivate and inspire people by believing in them, fighting with them by their side and giving them the tools to succeed for a lifetime. We watched the show last night and it turned our stomachs. I realize that what we saw was only minutes out of hours of workouts, but it was enough to show us that Bob and Jillian are not trainers they are actors and dictators that have a lot to learn when it comes to dealing with people.
  • melkay40
    melkay40 Posts: 9
    I 100% agree that there is so much more to losing weight than the pounds. I would say that many, if not all excessively overweight people have some underlying problem that caused them to get in the shape they are in. I am one of those people. And I know the Biggest Loser is a TV show and a lot of hype and I am sure it gets edited like crazy to show only the bad. But I also think that Jillian tries to help these people find their "underlying problem". That show motivated me to search out what my problems were and why I allowed myself to get in this shape.

    I was always athletic, thin and an attractive person. Two divorces and many issues in between and my answer was to hide behind food. My life was out of control with no direction but one thing I could control was food. Yet food controlled me. I am an addict to food just as people are addicted to alcohol or drugs.

    I struggle everyday with my addiction but with the support of you guys and my desire to be healthier and happy I will not succumb to this addiction.
  • kblu0816
    kblu0816 Posts: 1,627 Member
    Ok I missed it because I was out of town....is there someone I can go online to see the epsiode??
  • sajar_06
    sajar_06 Posts: 173 Member
    Okay,
    I want to add my dimes worth here. I do not agree with the cursing at the people that is over the top. I know that you have to be stern and not give in to the emotional baggage they have coming into this program and maybe even do reality checks on them. But, no one deserves to be cursed at or made to feel less than human. Abuse comes in many forms and that is a form of abuse it being verbal and emotional not to forget. There were times when I needed a reality check and a push and refocused in my line of thinking and capabilties but at no time did my trainer/coach the friend who was helping me in this journey never once cursed me or made me feel less than human. I did get a few wake up sessions but none of which were abusive in verbal or emotional. If that had happened I would have shut down and refused to even try. This was just my thoughts on this.
    God Bless,
    Brenda
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    Oh I disagree. I think that some people work better when screamed at. In fact, I work better that way with physical training. Call me names, call me fat, make me pissed, I only work harder. I'm not saying everyone works better that way, but that's Jillian's style, everyone who went there went with eyes wide open, and knew full well what Jillian would be doing when they got there. If they didn't want to be screamed at, then they didn't have to go. I don't agree with screaming at someone when they have no choice but to listen to it, but in this case, I feel it's more than fine.

    Some people are motivated better this way, and obviously these people are. Did you see Shay? After she walked out, she took a really long look at herself and came back in, talking to her nicely and gently is feeding her neurosis IMHO, you need to shock some people or they will (and I've experienced this first hand) take take take.

    I don't understand where the "less than human" comes in? What would make you say that? From the little we saw on the show, I see (in Jillian) someone who is SO supportive and SO caring that she will stop at nothing to force you to work hard. I find it refreshing to see a trainer not give in when people aren't trying hard enough. Just MHO, but I say to each their own. If they don't like being yelled at, they are free to leave. For me? I say bring it, make me puke, I'll love you for it tomorrow!
  • ivykivy
    ivykivy Posts: 2,970 Member
    I agree with you that kind of behavior is not necessary nor should be tolerated in civilized people. But this is coming from a girl who never heard a curse word until I went to public school. You can be stern and firm and let people know you mean business without yelling at folks... just ask my momma.:laugh:
    I totally agree with kelly_a. There is never a time to use swearing to get people motivated. My husband is a ISSA certified fitness trainer and he has seen tremendous results in his clients who are 200, 300, 400 plus pounds. In 5 months one client lost 60 pounds by pure hard work and dedication without us getting in her face and screaming at her. She isn't on a diet, but made a life change and hasn't looked back. He has also been my coach and pushed me to limits I never thought I could go and helped me break through to freedom. There is so much more to the issue of weight loss than just the "number of pounds" a person needs to loose. It goes far deeper than that to the heart of the person. Until you can realize how and why you got to that point every pound lost is only temporary and over time will climb right back on as you fall back into old habits. You can encourage, motivate and inspire people by believing in them, fighting with them by their side and giving them the tools to succeed for a lifetime. We watched the show last night and it turned our stomachs. I realize that what we saw was only minutes out of hours of workouts, but it was enough to show us that Bob and Jillian are not trainers they are actors and dictators that have a lot to learn when it comes to dealing with people.
  • courtney_love2001
    courtney_love2001 Posts: 1,468 Member
    I'm such a sap...I watched it earlier and cried when I heard all of their stories. Also, I know someone that's on the show!! Sean, the youth minister, is in a Christian band called Watershed and they used to perform at all of our retreats and even came to our church! So awesome...and he lost 22 lbs. this week! Wahoo!!
  • Tamishumate
    Tamishumate Posts: 1,171 Member
    I agree with Sheboss ... some people ( these people who are on the show ) NEED it...
    I would PAY big money to let Jillian yell at me just to have a chance to train with her for one day. She completely 100% motivated me to do what I have done. she rocks ... :flowerforyou:
  • kelfeene
    kelfeene Posts: 78 Member
    TAMI ... OMG YOu are amazing ... 129 lbs!!!!!!!!!!
  • Ripgirl
    Ripgirl Posts: 172 Member
    It is also, at the end of the day, a TV show aimed at ratings and revenue. While it's awesome and I love watching shows like this (Last 10 Pounds, etc) always keep in mind that although a 'reality' show, there is still a Director, and a team of Producers, all making sure there is enough drama to provoke responses like this to keep people talking about it and tuning in next week. They've obviously done their job well!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    Drama is one thing this show has in Spades! :tongue:
  • Tamishumate
    Tamishumate Posts: 1,171 Member
    TAMI ... OMG YOu are amazing ... 129 lbs!!!!!!!!!!

    thank you very much! I feel pretty amazing these days! :drinker:
  • Mamakatspokane
    Mamakatspokane Posts: 3,098 Member
    Oh I disagree. I think that some people work better when screamed at. In fact, I work better that way with physical training. Call me names, call me fat, make me pissed, I only work harder. I'm not saying everyone works better that way, but that's Jillian's style, everyone who went there went with eyes wide open, and knew full well what Jillian would be doing when they got there. If they didn't want to be screamed at, then they didn't have to go. I don't agree with screaming at someone when they have no choice but to listen to it, but in this case, I feel it's more than fine.

    Some people are motivated better this way, and obviously these people are. Did you see Shay? After she walked out, she took a really long look at herself and came back in, talking to her nicely and gently is feeding her neurosis IMHO, you need to shock some people or they will (and I've experienced this first hand) take take take.

    I don't understand where the "less than human" comes in? What would make you say that? From the little we saw on the show, I see (in Jillian) someone who is SO supportive and SO caring that she will stop at nothing to force you to work hard. I find it refreshing to see a trainer not give in when people aren't trying hard enough. Just MHO, but I say to each their own. If they don't like being yelled at, they are free to leave. For me? I say bring it, make me puke, I'll love you for it tomorrow!

    Nicely said. I was doing one of her videos the other day and I LOVED it when she said..there is no modification, no one is doing you a favor by letting you modify & rest. You CAN do this!.......Everytime I want to quit jogging or whatever I think of that and find the strength to do just one more minute or whatever.
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