Dr Oz speaking on Brown Rice & Whole Grain/Wheat...
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White or wheat.To someone with celiac disease they are both equally terrifing :noway: :laugh: .. I think it's all bad personally because of the way it has been genetically modified into some freak-a-zoid version of what the grain originally started out being, and corn too for that matter.The fact that 1 of out every 100 people have celiacs , but only 5%are ever diagnosed and the lasted numbers are saying that 8 ot out every 10 people have some sort of sensitivity to wheat but most don't know is enough to convince me... as far as white or brown rice.. I assume brown is the healthier option..
Do you have an actual source for these "facts?"0 -
LMAO^^
I'm to new to have an opinion.....:noway:0 -
If that's the argument, it's a faulty one.I think part of the argument is that it has the same glycemic index as white bread, but obviously the extra fiber is good for you. Who knows, everyday there is a new theory. We all have to find what works for us.0 -
wash it down with the arsenic apple juice
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I actually like whole grains better than the processed version.... But I try to limit the abount of carbs I take in ....
Oh and Dr. Oz is very creepy....0 -
"whole grain" ain't what it used to be....a few years back, before the preponderance of whole grain products were on the market, whole grain meant that the whole of the grain was used, more or less as is. Now, every other product at the grocery store is whole grain and they don't look or taste at all different from their original refined versions (think fruit loops) so how can this be? Manufacturers have amped up their processes up to technically use the whole grain- meaning all the peices, but they grind and process the heck out of it so it might as well be refined. Because they've refined it. The end result products are essentially refined with a little bit of extra fiber, which is good. But don't get caught in the trap of thinking that that little bit of fiber makes an otherwise refined product a health food.
My rule of thumb is that it only "counts" as a whole grain if it physically looks like a whole grain- like rolled oats, quinoa, brown rice, etc. I try to get the bulk (haha) of my grains from those type of grains. I don't think that you have to completely eliminate breads unless you want to or have a medical condition warranting it- but just don't get caught up in the hype and eat too much of it because you've been made to believe that whole grain products are wonderful. I eat a couple bagels a week and use tortillas regularly and would never give either of them up completely.0 -
First off........do not pay attention to what Dr. Oz says....he's an idiot! Second, whole wheat isn't much different from white bread. Whole grain or even better, sprouted grain is where you get more bang for your buck. I love sprouted bread. It is a living grain, has way more fiber and protein.......they sell it at most grocery stores (trader joe's, raleys/bel air both carry it) either on the shelf in the natural foods section or in the freezer. They even make sprouted grain tortillas.0
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There is a difference between whole wheat and whole grain. Whole wheat is just as bad as white bread whole grain and completly different story. Whole grain carbs (i.e. whole wheat bread quinoa etc)are extremly healthy for you due to its fiber content. Fiber is slowly digested and therefor keeps you fuller longer. You also dont have the high and lows with your blood suger levels. Whole wheat does not have the fiber and has a lot more sugar. Carbs are not an enemy as long as you have the fiber to off set it. When you are buying your carbs from the market look at the label and make sure it has atleast 6 gms of fiber. Fiber is the "magic pill" so to speak!0
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I know I'm a bit late to the party here, but there is quite a bit of misinformation in this thread. I'll address two of the major items.
1- fiber does not "offset carbs". Fiber itself is a carbohydrate, however it cannot be absorbed by the body. So, when you see a total carb counts on a label, it includes the carbs from fiber. This is why you are able to subtract the amount of fiber from the total carbs to get "net carbs".
2-Wheat is bad. It and other grains will spike your blood sugar more than table sugar. Wheat is particularly bad. It has addictive properties and perpetuates food addiction among countless other medical conditions including diabetes, obesity and cancer to name a few. This is not my opinion, this is medical fact proven over and over again through medical studies. For an extremely good overview of these findings, I suggest you read the book Wheat Belly.0 -
Wheat Belly ... yeah, I'll get right on that.
Hah, kidding! I wouldn't touch Wheat Belly if someone paid me.0 -
As a general rule, the less processed a food is, the closer it is to its natural state and the better it is for you.
With that being said, in my opinion only sprouted grain breads (Ezekiel, etc.) or even homemade breads (no preservatives or fillers!) are worth eating. Brown rice has more fiber than white rice, so I would call that healthier.
Dr. Oz is a talking head. Pay little (if any) attention to his advice...0 -
I think all bread is bad except for sprouted bread. That being said, I use a whole grain bread for my 5 yr old's sandwiches. Not whole wheat.0
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Hmm. Whole grain bread must have gotten on Dr Oz's bad side.....
Probably didn't want to pay him enough to say good things about him on TV.0 -
Unfortunately I've yet to find a whole grain rye bread on the grocery store shelves.
Yeah, it is impossible to find a whole grain rye unless you buy it from a specialty bakery or make it yourself. Harrumph.0 -
Dr. Oz is an idiot.
Also, it depends on what the individual considers "bad." Are calories "bad?" Then whole wheat may be as "bad" as white. Is over-processed food "bad?" Then wheat is better than white.
Oh, and Dr. Oz is an idiot.
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Why is most of the people on this post hating on Dr.Oz?
He seems like a smart guy, who knows what he's talking about most of the time...0 -
A lot of people went sour on Oz when he started recommending supplements of doubtful value.0
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2-Wheat is bad. It and other grains will spike your blood sugar more than table sugar. Wheat is particularly bad. It has addictive properties and perpetuates food addiction among countless other medical conditions including diabetes, obesity and cancer to name a few. This is not my opinion, this is medical fact proven over and over again through medical studies. For an extremely good overview of these findings, I suggest you read the book Wheat Belly.
Please provide studies.0 -
Tool is an awesome band, Dr. Oz is a joke \m/Dr. Oz is a TOOL....
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AGREED 100%... TOOL is THE best band period. FTW!!!
I have never watched Dr Oz, but I can confirm the 2 above me as being correct in their statements. Tool kicks serious butt, and I have been fortunate enough to see them AND a perfect circle live in the past 3 years :drinker:0 -
Google "wheat belly" and you'll probably see where Dr. Oz is getting his facts from.
I'm not going to weigh in on whether I agree or not, but it is interesting to read.0 -
I don't believe wheat is bad for most. I do prefer rye or white bread.
Phytic acid compounds do block quite a bit though, the molecule binds with minerals such as calcium, magnesium, iron, zinc.. so it might be chelating some important minerals.
Also inhibiting digestive enzymes such as pepsin,, amylase and trypsin.0 -
Dr. Oz endorses products because he gets paid to do it, not because he has done any research on his own or has actually tried the product. He's right sometimes... but don't believe everything you see on television... He doesn't have his own show out of the goodness of his heart... He's receiving a paycheck, the network pays him to speak about certain things.
I've tried products that he recommended, and some worked... but most didn't, every product doesn't work for every single person anyway, but I wouldn't take stock in very much that says (when he is encouraging his viewers to use a certain product) unless you know it to be true from your own research or experience.
Dr, Oz is like many doctors... arrogant in thinking that they know everything. Ever notice how so many patients go misdiagnosed/undiagnosed even though the have persistent health issues? Medical science is great, so is homeopathic and complimentary medicine. Either way, you must take your health into your own hands to a certain extent (I am not saying that you should try to treat yourself for cancer or perform surgery on yourself)... some people are just after money in the medical field, I know this from experience, being a pre- med student myself.
Do your research... see how wheat bread or white bread affects you... The grains have been genetically modified in both, like most of the food we eat... that's why it's best to grow your own or buy organic, unmodified foods when possible. Removing it from my diet was the best thing for me personally.0 -
Why is most of the people on this post hating on Dr.Oz?
He seems like a smart guy, who knows what he's talking about most of the time...
The problem is what he "knows" changes daily depending on the fad0 -
If you want to want to really know the difference between wheat and grain you need to FIRST stop trying to convince yourself that Celiacs and Gluten Intolerance is just some hippie mumbo jumbo. It's not. Celiac/Gluten intolerance deniers can go away now. I have no help for you and you can take your hating on my diet elsewhere.
Still with me?
Consider in your answer the science of food production, specifically genetic modification.
STOP - If you really just aren't that interested in either of those things (gluten and food science) - they stop right here. Go back to eating the way you want. Just limit your calories and move on with your life.
If you really DO have an interest, there are some good blogs, articles and staring points. There is no 2 cent easy answer to this one. The only answer on if it is good or bad for YOU and only YOU is that "it depends". On what? Well, how you feel, how much fiber you want/need in your diet, if your able to tolerate it or not, etc, etc etc. Good luck!
Health Guidance.org
http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/5153/1/White-Bread-vs-Whole-Wheat---Any-Questions.html
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
http://www.ajcn.org/content/79/4/669.full
One of my go-to Gluten Free blogs on the "wheat belly" book. She tears it apart.
http://noglutennoproblem.blogspot.com/2012/03/wheat-belly-busted.html0 -
If you want to want to really know the difference between wheat and grain you need to FIRST stop trying to convince yourself that Celiacs and Gluten Intolerance is just some hippie mumbo jumbo. It's not. Celiac/Gluten intolerance deniers can go away now. I have no help for you and you can take your hating on my diet elsewhere.
Still with me?
Consider in your answer the science of food production, specifically genetic modification.
STOP - If you really just aren't that interested in either of those things (gluten and food science) - they stop right here. Go back to eating the way you want. Just limit your calories and move on with your life.
If you really DO have an interest, there are some good blogs, articles and staring points. There is no 2 cent easy answer to this one. The only answer on if it is good or bad for YOU and only YOU is that "it depends". On what? Well, how you feel, how much fiber you want/need in your diet, if your able to tolerate it or not, etc, etc etc. Good luck!
Health Guidance.org
http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/5153/1/White-Bread-vs-Whole-Wheat---Any-Questions.html
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
http://www.ajcn.org/content/79/4/669.full
One of my go-to Gluten Free blogs on the "wheat belly" book. She tears it apart.
http://noglutennoproblem.blogspot.com/2012/03/wheat-belly-busted.html
Thanks for your post. I really appreciate the straight forward points and link to your blog re: wheat belly. So much information and mis-information, it's hard to make headway sometimes.0 -
I say don't listen to him!! I LOVE my whole wheat noodles and bread
I'm still losing btw. 0 -
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