Cabbage Soup Diet (Sacred Heart Diet)
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I'm not taking it as a personal attack at all. No worries. : ) I have thick skin. As far as my quick adds, I honestly do not think I'm underestimating, but I could be very wrong. I will try harder. The 2 times I did it, they were local restaurants, not found anywhere else online. I will try to find comparable food on here.
Also, I'm not looking at this diet as a quick fix by any means, or as something I can do for longer than a week. I was hoping for a quick 9 or 10 pounds and then continue my normal weight loss journey from there. I appreciate all the feedback, good and bad. It's super helpful!!!0 -
Absolutely 100% do NOT bother with this.
While I'm just repeating some previous advice: You do not need to detox your system and you do not need to "kickstart" or "jumpstart" anything. You need a plan that you can stick with and you need to stick with it, and that's it.
If I were to generalize and sum up a list:
1) Eat at a reasonable caloric deficit. 20% under TDEE is a good starting place.
2) Consume adequate protein and fat.
3) Exercise, ideally with progressive resistance.
4) Rest and repeat.
5) Don't micromanage anything else that doesn't really matter.
Best of luck.
Sidesteal - Question for ya...
My TDEE - 20% is higher than what MFP recommends. This is probably b/c of the exercise component. I just started doing some working out (push ups, squats, planks, a couple dumbbell routines). I filled out "light exercise" 1-3 days a week on the TDEE calculator.
Is it better to over or underestimate your exercise? I"m not really sure what my workout counts for. It doesn't seem like I'm doing much, yet.
Thanks! (People seem to think you know what you're talking about, so I thought I'd ask your opinion!
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I'm not taking it as a personal attack at all. No worries. : ) I have thick skin. As far as my quick adds, I honestly do not think I'm underestimating, but I could be very wrong. I will try harder. The 2 times I did it, they were local restaurants, not found anywhere else online. I will try to find comparable food on here.
Also, I'm not looking at this diet as a quick fix by any means, or as something I can do for longer than a week. I was hoping for a quick 9 or 10 pounds and then continue my normal weight loss journey from there. I appreciate all the feedback, good and bad. It's super helpful!!!
Even if it's a local place, just look up the dish you had. It may not be exact, but it will be close than the estimates.
Nine or 10 pounds lost in a week, unless you are VERY overweight (like 300 pounds or more, and even that depends on height), is NOT HEALTHY and not what you want to be doing. Unless I'm missing something, your losses are good and ideal. Just keep the slow and steady pace. You'll be surprised to see how fast you reach your goal that way.0 -
My TDEE - 20% is higher than what MFP recommends. This is probably b/c of the exercise component. I just started doing some working out (push ups, squats, planks, a couple dumbbell routines). I filled out "light exercise" 1-3 days a week on the TDEE calculator.
Is it better to over or underestimate your exercise? I"m not really sure what my workout counts for. It doesn't seem like I'm doing much, yet.
Thanks! (People seem to think you know what you're talking about, so I thought I'd ask your opinion! )
Just speaking very generally, I think it's best to err on the side of under-estimating your exercise calories much in the same way that it's usually best to err on the side of over-estimating your intake.
As with any method of estimation, you should be mindful of your progress and make adjustments based on results. So for example, if you find that your losses are much slower than expected, you could conclude that you're probably over-estimating expenditure and adjust by slightly reducing intake. Etc. Let me know if that makes sense.0 -
However, just like any other fad diet, they gained the weight back over the next few weeks once they reverted back to their old eating habits.
THAT is why most of these diets fail. You lose weight by filling yourself with something that is starving your body of something else. You need a balance of fat, carbs, and proteins for a sustained lifestyle. You can cut the carbs a lot (ie. Atkins), but you have to accept that as a lifestyle, not a short-term diet.
Then, when the diet is over, you've lost weight but starved your body of something it wants, so your metabolism is low and your appetite is high. You'll quickly balloon back up and gain back part of the weight.
As a filler and a part of an otherwise-healthy balanced diet, cabbage soup is fine. As a primary food source to replace other things you need, it's going to be short-term and counterproductive in the long run.
If you need something to fill the belly, start with a balanced diet then fill up with something like that. If you get your diet in proper balance and watch your calories, though, you'll very quickly start finding that you're not as hungry, and your body will start being able to tell you what you need. Start exercising as much as you can and you'll find you can "afford" more satisfying foods, and you're well on your way to building calorie-burning muscle and healthy weight loss.
Slow and steady wins the race.0 -
I keep a pot of cabbage soup on the stove just about all the time but only because I love cabbage soup. You can do this and use the soup in between meals to get you through. Using it as your total intake seems over doing it!
Think of it this way... it's a last ditch effort to remove weight from hospital patients so they can have surgery to save their lives. I don't think you're there yet, right?
It's not a jump start effort, it's a last ditch effort!
Btw: So about your foot... feel better soon!0 -
Just speaking very generally, I think it's best to err on the side of under-estimating your exercise calories much in the same way that it's usually best to err on the side of over-estimating your intake.
As with any method of estimation, you should be mindful of your progress and make adjustments based on results. So for example, if you find that your losses are much slower than expected, you could conclude that you're probably over-estimating expenditure and adjust by slightly reducing intake. Etc. Let me know if that makes sense.
I agree with this, with one caveat.
If you've brought your calories into balance (eating approximately the portions of fat, carbs, and proteins) recommended, you aren't losing weight, and you find that you are constantly tired, you have no stamina for good workouts or find workouts honestly unpleasant, having lots of trouble sleeping, or you're hungry ALL THE TIME, then you may want to try raising your calories.
If your energy levels start coming up, there may be a short-term weight gain, but the loss should start back up as your metabolism comes up and your workouts start burning the calories they should again.
But as long as you feel healthy, energetic, sleep OK, and never feel really hungry, you're probably getting plenty of calories. If you're not losing weight under those circumstances, try gradually lowering your caloric intake and see if that starts things up again.
The only way your body can accurately talk to you, though, is if you are getting plenty of water and feeding it all the types of calories it needs in reasonable proportions. Once you do this and start really paying attention, your body will start sending more understandable signals.0 -
If anything claims to cleanse you or detox you, just turn away and pretend you never saw the f*cking thing.
Yes, veggies are good for you, so eat them. Cabbage will cleanse you, with farts, thats about it.
If you want to jumpstart your weightloss, actually start it. Your initial losses will be large and encouraging. If you're looking at fad diets, you are saying to yourself, "I'm not really 100% sure I am committed to this, let me see if I can find something to make me feel like I will be."
It isn't rocket surgery, and if you convince yourself an extreme is the only way to go you will make something like this seem monumentally difficult when it really is just changing how you live your life. Figure out about how many calories you should eat, then eat 500 below that. Move around some, pick up heavy things and put them down again and above all, be patient. Physics and your own biology will take care of the rest.
If you want to look at my diary, feel free. I have been "doing it", for over a month now. Been on MFP for 20 days, and have been a bit unsuccessful. I log everything, and I am usually very honest. I broke my foot about a month ago (1 week after I started my weight loss effort), and have not been able to work out. I just started back at the gym 2 weeks ago... Slowly working back up to where I was.
4lbs of weight loss in 20 days is far from unsuccessful, I would categorize that as successful.
These "hospital" diets are notoriously terrible crash diets. I have done research on a few of them, all claim to be diets used for very obese patients to drop pounds fast, however, none can actually be legitimately linked to any real hospital.
Skip the crash diets, most end up with you putting back on whatever weight you lost, and keep doing it the right way.0 -
My dad didn't do the diet, but ate the soup and lost over 100lbs (in one year) - he also changed his lifestyle and started running 5 miles a day, 6 days a week. Instead of the diet, he used the soup as a replacement for a snack or one meal a day, it is healthy and filling. When I find myself wanting to snack more or feeling like I am not "full enough", I bring this into my diet and I think it works well. It is all about balance.0
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My TDEE - 20% is higher than what MFP recommends. This is probably b/c of the exercise component. I just started doing some working out (push ups, squats, planks, a couple dumbbell routines). I filled out "light exercise" 1-3 days a week on the TDEE calculator.
Is it better to over or underestimate your exercise? I"m not really sure what my workout counts for. It doesn't seem like I'm doing much, yet.
Thanks! (People seem to think you know what you're talking about, so I thought I'd ask your opinion! )
Just speaking very generally, I think it's best to err on the side of under-estimating your exercise calories much in the same way that it's usually best to err on the side of over-estimating your intake.
As with any method of estimation, you should be mindful of your progress and make adjustments based on results. So for example, if you find that your losses are much slower than expected, you could conclude that you're probably over-estimating expenditure and adjust by slightly reducing intake. Etc. Let me know if that makes sense.
Thanks, that does help. When I adjust down my exercise to "little to none' (sad, I know), the TDEE - 20% ais much closer to the one set by MFP. Just about 100 calories up.0 -
Just a note on cabbage - if you really like it, I have a great recipe for Purple Cabbage and Quinoa Slaw. It's very nutritious, filling, and low calorie. You can send me a message if you'd like the recipe.0
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Just a note on cabbage - if you really like it, I have a great recipe for Purple Cabbage and Quinoa Slaw. It's very nutritious, filling, and low calorie. You can send me a message if you'd like the recipe.
I LOVE cabbage. There really isn't a veggie I don't like, but cabbage is one of my favorites. Hit me with the recipe!0 -
My dad didn't do the diet, but ate the soup and lost over 100lbs (in one year) - he also changed his lifestyle and started running 5 miles a day, 6 days a week. Instead of the diet, he used the soup as a replacement for a snack or one meal a day, it is healthy and filling. When I find myself wanting to snack more or feeling like I am not "full enough", I bring this into my diet and I think it works well. It is all about balance.
I think I may end up just doing it as a filler, and maybe nix the diet part of it. Thank you everyone!0 -
My dad didn't do the diet, but ate the soup and lost over 100lbs (in one year) - he also changed his lifestyle and started running 5 miles a day, 6 days a week. Instead of the diet, he used the soup as a replacement for a snack or one meal a day, it is healthy and filling. When I find myself wanting to snack more or feeling like I am not "full enough", I bring this into my diet and I think it works well. It is all about balance.
I think I may end up just doing it as a filler, and maybe nix the diet part of it. Thank you everyone!
Sounds like a good plan
I've fixed it several times because I actually love it! 0 -
Do the math. As an average, and easy example number, a woman burns 2000 calories a day, total. If you ate NOTHING you would have a 14,000 calorie deficit at the end of the week. So, if it takes a 3,500 deficit to lose one pound, you would lose 4 pounds at the end of the week. That would be for total fasting. So, the only conclusion I could come to is that 7-10 pounds the first week is almost all water weight loss. As soon as you eat a few meals, most of that will reappear right away.
Do the math using your own numbers and see what is possible. And remember to account for the cabbage soup calories you eat. You are better off sticking to something that won't trigger a binge at the end when your body is trying to get back to normal after being starved for a week.
Edit: Oh, and btw, I have a recipe I made for chicken cabbage soup that I eat about once a week and still love it after nearly 20 years.
In a 1 quart covered saucepan put:
3/4 cup water
1 tsp granulated chicken bouillon (Knorr)
pepper to taste (and a dash of celery salt if you have it)
1/4 of a head of cabbage, sliced (or however much you can stuff into the saucepan)
1 scallion, sliced
2 oz. cooked chicken breast
Press ingredients into the saucepan in that order. It will be pretty full, but it cooks down. Cover tightly and boil for about 5-10 minutes (depending on how well done you like your cabbage). Open, stir, and eat. I love this stuff.
I never really entered this recipe into the database, but I'm sure it has less than 200 calories. Sometimes if I'm hungry, I add more chicken. If you're at your calorie limit, add more cabbage.0 -
Some of you are replying and acting like all I would eat for a week is cabbage soup. Ick!! I would not make it past day 2. Here is the link for the actual diet. I do not eat enough fruits AT ALL!!! I thought this might help me enjoy them more.
http://www.idiet4u.com/diets/sacredheart.html
Just went there. I didn't see cabbage in the soup recipe. Maybe I'm missing something?0 -
Oh, that was the other recipe I was looking at. It's actually got half a head of cabbage in it. This was somehow the cabbage-less version of the soup,0
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Do the math. As an average, and easy example number, a woman burns 2000 calories a day, total. If you ate NOTHING you would have a 14,000 calorie deficit at the end of the week. So, if it takes a 3,500 deficit to lose one pound, you would lose 4 pounds at the end of the week. That would be for total fasting. So, the only conclusion I could come to is that 7-10 pounds the first week is almost all water weight loss. As soon as you eat a few meals, most of that will reappear right away.
Do the math using your own numbers and see what is possible. And remember to account for the cabbage soup calories you eat. You are better off sticking to something that won't trigger a binge at the end when your body is trying to get back to normal after being starved for a week.
Edit: Oh, and btw, I have a recipe I made for chicken cabbage soup that I eat about once a week and still love it after nearly 20 years.
In a 1 quart covered saucepan put:
3/4 cup water
1 tsp granulated chicken bouillon (Knorr)
pepper to taste (and a dash of celery salt if you have it)
1/4 of a head of cabbage, sliced (or however much you can stuff into the saucepan)
1 scallion, sliced
2 oz. cooked chicken breast
Press ingredients into the saucepan in that order. It will be pretty full, but it cooks down. Cover tightly and boil for about 5-10 minutes (depending on how well done you like your cabbage). Open, stir, and eat. I love this stuff.
I never really entered this recipe into the database, but I'm sure it has less than 200 calories. Sometimes if I'm hungry, I add more chicken. If you're at your calorie limit, add more cabbage.
This soup sounds awesome!! Thanks!0 -
my MIL has done this and dropped weight. she's a heavy woman, so i'm not sure how much/if any, that has anything to do with it. she (i think) did it for breakfast & lunch & a light dinner.. if i recall right0
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i did this diet it won't hurt you you need look in to weight watchers they have a cabbage soup that's free plus so is all the fruit and must of the vegs0
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Some of you are replying and acting like all I would eat for a week is cabbage soup. Ick!! I would not make it past day 2. Here is the link for the actual diet. I do not eat enough fruits AT ALL!!! I thought this might help me enjoy them more.
http://www.idiet4u.com/diets/sacredheart.html
Let's analyze that link.
"After only 7 days of this process, you will begin to feel lighter by at least 10 pounds and possibly 17 pounds," - Very important that it says you will "feel" lighter, not "be" lighter. 17 pounds of fat comes out to about 59,500 calories. Over 7 days, that would require a daily deficit of 8500 calories to translate to any meaningful weight loss. Unless you're Michael Phelps on an overdose of speed, that's not happening. So from the very first paragraph, we know that this diet is built on misleading or flat out lying to you. Sounds like my kind of diet! Let's continue.
"This soup will not add calories. " - Sweet, we've found a substance that isn't bound by thermodynamics. Those two cans of stewed tomatoes (246 calories), 3 large green onions (120 calories), 2 cans of green beans (140 calories), 2 lbs of carrots (400 calories) cease to contain any energy once you combine them together.
By day three, "you should find that you have lost 5-7 pounds." 7 pounds of fat is 24,500 calories. In 3 days, that's a deficit of 8200 calories a day. Definitely not happening. So if it's not fat, where is the weight coming from? Not from water since that's the basis of the soup. That just leaves a couple options.. either the diet is lying, or it's talking about poop! Yep, this diet is going to clean you out big time. Don't go more than a few feet from a toilet, or things might get a bit embarrassing.
Notice how the "impurities" it's meant to flush out are never mentioned. That's because those impurities are poop and anything else that might be hanging out in the intestine. Take a few laxatives and follow this easy diet, and you'll feel lighter in no time. Then like all fad diets, you eventually have to start eating normally again. At this point, your intestines are going to once again become full of "impurities" and you will gain back every ounce you lost. But like the link says: "This was never meant to be a stand-alone diet. This was the rapid reduction portion of the diet that was meant primarily for overweight patients who were scheduled to undergo surgery. "0 -
Here's my Quinoa Cabbage Slaw recipe. (so good! Just had it for lunch...)
Quinoa Cabbage Slaw
1 cup of quinoa, cooked according to package (usually 2 to 1 water to quinoa ratio)
1/2 head of green cabbage (sliced/ chopped)
1/2 head of purple cabbage (sliced/ chopped)
1 medium onion (sliced/ chopped)
1 red pepper sliced/ chopped
2 TBSP sunflower seeds
1 julliened zucchini
Throw all of this in a big bowl and mix together.
In a separate bowl, mix up the dressing:
1/3 c. rice vinegar
1/3 c. beef broth
1/4 c. stevia
2 TBSP canola oil
1/4 tsp salt
Add the dressing, mix in, and chill for about a couple hours.
Makes 8 generous servings...
Should be 172 calories per serving; 6 g fat; 5 g protein; 5 g fiber; 10 g iron0 -
Here's my Quinoa Cabbage Slaw recipe. (so good! Just had it for lunch...)
Quinoa Cabbage Slaw
1 cup of quinoa, cooked according to package (usually 2 to 1 water to quinoa ratio)
1/2 head of green cabbage (sliced/ chopped)
1/2 head of purple cabbage (sliced/ chopped)
1 medium onion (sliced/ chopped)
1 red pepper sliced/ chopped
2 TBSP sunflower seeds
1 julliened zucchini
Throw all of this in a big bowl and mix together.
In a separate bowl, mix up the dressing:
1/3 c. rice vinegar
1/3 c. beef broth
1/4 c. stevia
2 TBSP canola oil
1/4 tsp salt
Add the dressing, mix in, and chill for about a couple hours.
Makes 8 generous servings...
Should be 172 calories per serving; 6 g fat; 5 g protein; 5 g fiber; 10 g iron
Sounds yummy! Can't wait to try it.0
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