6,000 calorie burn?!
toots99
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That's how much Bob on BIggest Loser said a girl's gotta burn each day! Holy moly! They've gotta burn 6,000 all still while taking in 1,200! And guys have to burn 8,000 (I am guessing they take in 1,800?...it wasn't mentioned). They've gotta be dead at the end of the day...I know if I burn 1,000 I'm beat! :laugh: No wonder they lose as much weight a week as they do. :noway:
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I heard that too- I was shocked.
They are taking in -4800 calories a day, which means they are burning about 1.3 pounds a day.
How do they not die? People here talk about starvation mode when you eat 1000 calories a day.
How they heck are they doing -4800?????0 -
No idea! They must be very closely monitored, as it mentions at the end of each show. I had to rewind to just make sure I heard Bob right. Amazing.0
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seriously... i was trying to see about how many hours of workout per day one would have to do to approximately burn 6,000 calories/day.0
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I thought I imagined it too! My daily is 1300 and I am no where near the weight of these contestants. I can't imagine living off that little of food, especially when your exerting so much energy!
What happens when they go back to a normal life?!0 -
i did not think it was 4800 it was only 1200 thats all your body really needs, when your exercising hard your not hungry if you eat to much it makes you sick i lost five pounds this week i did buns of steel and walk a way the pounds i want to lose ten pounds this week so i need to step up my work out but when you this big and your working out hard its easy to stay with in:yawn: your calories0
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i did not think it was 4800 it was only 1200 thats all your body really needs, when your exercising hard your not hungry if you eat to much it makes you sick i lost five pounds this week i did buns of steel and walk a way the pounds i want to lose ten pounds this week so i need to step up my work out but when you this big and your working out hard its easy to stay with in:yawn: your calories
She said it's -4800 calories. They burn 6,000 and take in 1,200. That's MINUS 4,800 calories.0 -
Some of their body sizes would make that easier though. I know when I started 25 lbs heavier than where I am now, I burned more calories. It does seem extreme though.0
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I don't think they'll die or anything as they are closely monitored and usually extremely obese so their fat stores are enormous, although I think that the show itself is a tad extreme and some people just go back to their old habits afterwards if they haven't been taught to eat better or just lack of will.0
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If I had to burn 6000 calories a day, I'd be one big sweat puddle. YUCK! :sick:
But I think that is what Bob figured they needed to burn so that they could make the numbers they needed to (the 150 pounds combined, which they blew out of the water - AMAZING!!) - and then they would forego week 3.0 -
There is a reason they sign a "No I won't sue you if I die" release.
I don't care if that IS doctor monitored, there is no way that is healthy.
Risking someone's health for the glitz of a tv show is wrong, imo.
And worse yet, making America think it's okay because they are under a doctor's care bothers me too.
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There is a reason they sign a "No I won't sue you if I die" release.
I don't care if that IS doctor monitored, there is no way that is healthy.
Risking someone's health for the glitz of a tv show is wrong, imo.
And worse yet, making America think it's okay because they are under a doctor's care bothers me too.
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THANK YOU.
The Biggest Loser propagates all the unhealthy rumors and quick-fix methods for dropping lbs fast. While it might be motivating to some, it's entirely unrealistic and isn't doing its viewers any favors by promoting this kind of weight loss and excessive exercise.0 -
I heard that too- I was shocked.
They are taking in -4800 calories a day, which means they are burning about 1.3 pounds a day.
How do they not die? People here talk about starvation mode when you eat 1000 calories a day.
How they heck are they doing -4800?????
I think it works differently for extremely obese people and that show does seem a bit fanatical.
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There is a reason they sign a "No I won't sue you if I die" release.
I don't care if that IS doctor monitored, there is no way that is healthy.
Risking someone's health for the glitz of a tv show is wrong, imo.
And worse yet, making America think it's okay because they are under a doctor's care bothers me too.
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THANK YOU.
The Biggest Loser propagates all the unhealthy rumors and quick-fix methods for dropping lbs fast. While it might be motivating to some, it's entirely unrealistic and isn't doing its viewers any favors by promoting this kind of weight loss and excessive exercise.
Wow. I have never watched the show, but this is bizarre. I am in total agreement with you. When I saw snippets of the show on TV ads or Talk Soup, part of me liked the idea that they were challenging people to be more aggressive about fitness routines and realistic about the commitment it took to really change things. I also thought, like you, that images of obese people really working hard might be motivating to some or make others feel less self-conscious about working out in public.
However, "weight loss contests" are always inherently wrong, IMO, and this just confirms that this show is beyond irresponsible.0 -
Hold up a sec guys. Before we go crazy there are a few things to remember. And so everyone knows, I'm very torn about this show as well, sometimes I love it for the stories, and sometimes I hate it for the incomplete information and bad impressions it gives. In no way do I think the average person that needs to lose about 40 or 50 or even 100 lbs should attempt any of this on their own.
I spoke to my dietitian about this about 6 months ago, this is how she explained it to me.
A couple of things to remember, 1st, EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this show is on the Dangerous side of Morbidly obese. if they went to a doctor, to a man (or woman) the doctor would most likely put them on a VLCD (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_calorie_diet) until they were out of the extreme danger zone. That's the thing we don't see, they have doctors that live and/or work with these people as well, and (from what I've read on the site in the past) these professionals review their numbers weekly to make sure they aren't overly deficient in any area.
With that said, Morbidly obese people can afford a far higher calorie deficit than others, and for a longer period of time. That doesn't mean it's the BEST way to do it, but generally, right now it's just as important to remove some of the weight as it is to eat more.
While I DO feel it's irresponsible for them to give us (as viewers) those numbers without a detailed explaination as to why it's not ok for the average person, I understand why they are doing it themselves. What I don't agree with is the length of time they (seem) to keep them on that diet. It's not clear to me how long they stay on the extremely low calorie diet, but I know it's more than 3 weeks, which most doctors agree is the maximum you should be on a VLCD even when under physician supervision.
We need to remember, these people are averaging 50 to 60% body fat, that's bad news. Like, you'll die within a couple of years bad news. Getting off some of the weight at that point is generally the biggest concern.0 -
Hold up a sec guys. Before we go crazy there are a few things to remember. And so everyone knows, I'm very torn about this show as well, sometimes I love it for the stories, and sometimes I hate it for the incomplete information and bad impressions it gives. In no way do I think the average person that needs to lose about 40 or 50 or even 100 lbs should attempt any of this on their own.
I spoke to my dietitian about this about 6 months ago, this is how she explained it to me.
A couple of things to remember, 1st, EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this show is on the Dangerous side of Morbidly obese. if they went to a doctor, to a man (or woman) the doctor would most likely put them on a VLCD (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_calorie_diet) until they were out of the extreme danger zone. That's the thing we don't see, they have doctors that live and/or work with these people as well, and (from what I've read on the site in the past) these professionals review their numbers weekly to make sure they aren't overly deficient in any area.
With that said, Morbidly obese people can afford a far higher calorie deficit than others, and for a longer period of time. That doesn't mean it's the BEST way to do it, but generally, right now it's just as important to remove some of the weight as it is to eat more.
While I DO feel it's irresponsible for them to give us (as viewers) those numbers without a detailed explaination as to why it's not ok for the average person, I understand why they are doing it themselves. What I don't agree with is the length of time they (seem) to keep them on that diet. It's not clear to me how long they stay on the extremely low calorie diet, but I know it's more than 3 weeks, which most doctors agree is the maximum you should be on a VLCD even when under physician supervision.
We need to remember, these people are averaging 50 to 60% body fat, that's bad news. Like, you'll die within a couple of years bad news. Getting off some of the weight at that point is generally the biggest concern.
Very well said, Banks.0 -
I don't think there's misinformation given to the contestants by Bob and Jillian - we just only see a portion of what's said because it's edited out.0
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If any of these folks had bariatric surgery, they would have the same or similar extreme drop in caloric intake . The limitations of the surgery, at least during recovery, would prevent them from doing the extreme exercise,. Tthey wouldn't have that huge calorie burn, but they would, nevertheless have a deficit that is way beyond what the average person on here would consider reasonable. At least with this approach, they are also gaining cardio and strength benefits. IMO if "starvation mode" was a factor for the morbidly obese, then gastric bypass would never be as successful (pro/con arguments aside) as it is in producing rapid weightloss.
I think both extreme dieting and exercise , as in TBL, and bariatric surgery are radical approaches for folks who's priority is just to move them out of that critical zone. As long as they are closely - and professionally - monitored, I don't see how one is more dangerous or unrealistic than the other.
Once they get some of those numbers down, then, hopefully, they are not only mentally motivated, but physically more capable of learning more sustainable lifestyle habits.
At any rate, it DOES look like a brutal ride and I admire the folks on there who are sticking it out!0 -
While I DO feel it's irresponsible for them to give us (as viewers) those numbers without a detailed explaination as to why it's not ok for the average person, I understand why they are doing it themselves. What I don't agree with is the length of time they (seem) to keep them on that diet. It's not clear to me how long they stay on the extremely low calorie diet, but I know it's more than 3 weeks, which most doctors agree is the maximum you should be on a VLCD even when under physician supervision.
I was sprt of surprised to hear them say exact numbers, the don't usually mention the exact numbers they burn everyday, they normally say they workout for hours, being vague. Maybe it's for the reason you mentioned, that they don't want to give viewers the wrong impression that that's okay, that they can do it that way on their own.0 -
: i love the biggest loser i plan to lose ten pounds. all this complaing its like saying you dont want to get of your butt :explode: frist thing frist with out a trainer you have to work up to it with a trainer they make you do. for those who go in to great detail about how its soooooooo bad. if they did that to the food they ate they would not be fat just think to yourselfs what is the number one killer out theri it sure is not exercise.
hay what did that fast food do for you? 0 -
When you're extremely obese, you can lose large amounts of weight pretty quickly (and I assume "safely"?) as bypass patients do. When I'm watching that show, I do expect most of them to keel over of a heart attack and die...I'm actually shocked more of them don't end up being taken to the hospital.
By the way, I really hate Jillian. She's a complete and utter nut. Did you see her talking to herself last night? Crazy much? And her efforts at sympathy are laughable- they're so fake.0 -
Brenda - Jill makes my *kitten* itch. She is really fake and has little sympathy for her fellow man. At least Bob is real and so are the contestants, so that makes it bearable to watch.0
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Hold up a sec guys. Before we go crazy there are a few things to remember. And so everyone knows, I'm very torn about this show as well, sometimes I love it for the stories, and sometimes I hate it for the incomplete information and bad impressions it gives. In no way do I think the average person that needs to lose about 40 or 50 or even 100 lbs should attempt any of this on their own.
I spoke to my dietitian about this about 6 months ago, this is how she explained it to me.
A couple of things to remember, 1st, EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this show is on the Dangerous side of Morbidly obese. if they went to a doctor, to a man (or woman) the doctor would most likely put them on a VLCD (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_calorie_diet) until they were out of the extreme danger zone. That's the thing we don't see, they have doctors that live and/or work with these people as well, and (from what I've read on the site in the past) these professionals review their numbers weekly to make sure they aren't overly deficient in any area.
With that said, Morbidly obese people can afford a far higher calorie deficit than others, and for a longer period of time. That doesn't mean it's the BEST way to do it, but generally, right now it's just as important to remove some of the weight as it is to eat more.
While I DO feel it's irresponsible for them to give us (as viewers) those numbers without a detailed explaination as to why it's not ok for the average person, I understand why they are doing it themselves. What I don't agree with is the length of time they (seem) to keep them on that diet. It's not clear to me how long they stay on the extremely low calorie diet, but I know it's more than 3 weeks, which most doctors agree is the maximum you should be on a VLCD even when under physician supervision.
We need to remember, these people are averaging 50 to 60% body fat, that's bad news. Like, you'll die within a couple of years bad news. Getting off some of the weight at that point is generally the biggest concern.
Never mind.0 -
Another thing to keep in mind about buring 6000 calories, is that at 300 lbs, one's BMR would be close to 3500 calories alone - so that is only adding 2500 calories of exerise, which could be acheived in a few hours of work daily.
I'm not saying I think it is healthy, but it is something I kept in mind when my eyes bugged out at the number - I think it seems really shocking to those of us who have a BMR of 1500 cals!
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Yep, just checked it. If I weighed 450 my BMR would be close to 3000 a day.0
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I was also thinking that someone who is 300lbs is basically carrying an extra person around ALL DAY. Imagine piggy backing your friend around all day - that will burn some extra calories - and eventually do some serious damage to your system, joints, etc.0
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: i love the biggest loser i plan to lose ten pounds. all this complaing its like saying you dont want to get of your butt :explode: frist thing frist with out a trainer you have to work up to it with a trainer they make you do. for those who go in to great detail about how its soooooooo bad. if they did that to the food they ate they would not be fat just think to yourselfs what is the number one killer out theri it sure is not exercise. hay what did that fast food do for you?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
And Betty, I never thought of it that way...that would explain a lot!0 -
: i love the biggest loser i plan to lose ten pounds. all this complaing its like saying you dont want to get of your butt :explode: frist thing frist with out a trainer you have to work up to it with a trainer they make you do. for those who go in to great detail about how its soooooooo bad. if they did that to the food they ate they would not be fat just think to yourselfs what is the number one killer out theri it sure is not exercise. hay what did that fast food do for you?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
And Betty, I never thought of it that way...that would explain a lot!
lol, I thought that too, I read that post 3 times and then just moved away in frustration.0 -
: i love the biggest loser i plan to lose ten pounds. all this complaing its like saying you dont want to get of your butt :explode: frist thing frist with out a trainer you have to work up to it with a trainer they make you do. for those who go in to great detail about how its soooooooo bad. if they did that to the food they ate they would not be fat just think to yourselfs what is the number one killer out theri it sure is not exercise. hay what did that fast food do for you?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
And Betty, I never thought of it that way...that would explain a lot!
lol, I thought that too, I read that post 3 times and then just moved away in frustration.
I'm glad it wasn't just me. :flowerforyou:0 -
When I heard that, I actually looked at my husband and said "wow, surely that couldn't be for one day. That has to be in one week! "
I do know one thing that I learned just from watching the two episodes I've seen and that is: I am a pansy *kitten* when it comes to exercise compared to them!
Kudo's to the contestants. They work their butts off!0 -
Don't the constestants wear those Body Bugg things on their arms ....so they record the calories they are burning for every single minutes of the day -- even when sitting, sleeping, eating, etc. Of course they work out most of the day -- but this Body Bugg thing is adding ALL the calories burned every minute. Speaking of which -- I ordered one -- I am thinking it will really motivate me to get on it! LOL0
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