Look and feel fatter and weigh more 1 wk of P90?
tenpets
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Okay, So after eating well (1500 calories) and doing P90 for 6 days I look and feel bigger and I gained 4 lb! Really stops enthusiasm!
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Perhaps I can help. You need to trust the science of the program, and b) are you using the P90 nutrition plan?0
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Carbs? could be what you are eating....or perhaps you should give the system a little longer to see results. Don't get discouraged!!!0
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Did you weigh yourself in the morning, after using the restroom, wearing the same (minimal) clothing?
Did you drink enough water?
If the answer to any of these questions are no, then it's probably water/food weight.0 -
Ok, 6 days is not long enough to gain 4 pounds of fat or muscle, so worry not. Lol. it's probably just water weight.0
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Don't get discouraged. I'm on Day 2 of Phase 2. I only lost 2 lbs the first 30 days BUT I lost 12 inches all over. 3 just off of my waist. I was retaining fluid and dropped 7 lbs over night (after the scale went up!!). Measure yourself and don't depend on the scale. Follow the portions suggestions for the meal plan. It works!0
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Muscle repair holds on to water.
Hence your "gain".
Throw away your scales people, they don't tell you anything about your body!0 -
This is something another MFP member posted just a few hours ago...It's Chalene Johnson on Why the scale goes up when we start a new workout program....HTH!!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/595473-why-the-scale-goes-up-with-a-new-workout-program-must-read0 -
Also make sure you are drinking enough water!! You are only eating 1500 cals a day? Is that total?0
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bump0
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Every new workout routine creates inflammation and water retention in the muscles and other tissues.
This is temporary! The best time to weigh yourself is the morning after a rest day. You'll be happy with what you see!0 -
Some good points here, scales can be misleading. Check your body fat percentage with a caliper.0
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Check this out too... don't give up!
www.turbokick.com/wblog/?p=7090 -
This is precisely why I won't weigh or measure my clients until at least a month into a new program, preferably 6 weeks. When you first start a new program, especially a weight training program, the body adapts by increasing the glycogen storage in the muscles to fuel future workouts. This is actually the beginning step to being able to build more actual muscle in the future, so it is essential and a good thing. Unfortunately, when the muscles store glycogen, they store it in 3 times as much water. So, if you store an extra pound of glycogen, it's stored in 3 pounds of water, which means you gain 4 pounds. This is scary for people who are focused on the scale because they see the gain since it is so much easier to store glycogen and water then it is to lose fat. Eventually, though, the glycogen storage will max out (which is when you can actually start gaining muscle fiber size and density) and the fat loss will catch up. Just be consistent and ignore the scale for a few weeks.0
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Could it be water and muscle? Stay on it for a month and measure the difference in waist size and don't worry about the weight.0
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Also, take before pics.....you will be glad you did so that you can compare. The scale is torture!0
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Did you weigh yourself in the morning, after using the restroom, wearing the same (minimal) clothing?
Did you drink enough water?
If the answer to any of these questions are no, then it's probably water/food weight.
Yes, to all of the above.0 -
Also, take before pics.....you will be glad you did so that you can compare. The scale is torture!
Thanks, I took pics and measurements last weekend.0 -
This is precisely why I won't weigh or measure my clients until at least a month into a new program, preferably 6 weeks. When you first start a new program, especially a weight training program, the body adapts by increasing the glycogen storage in the muscles to fuel future workouts. This is actually the beginning step to being able to build more actual muscle in the future, so it is essential and a good thing. Unfortunately, when the muscles store glycogen, they store it in 3 times as much water. So, if you store an extra pound of glycogen, it's stored in 3 pounds of water, which means you gain 4 pounds. This is scary for people who are focused on the scale because they see the gain since it is so much easier to store glycogen and water then it is to lose fat. Eventually, though, the glycogen storage will max out (which is when you can actually start gaining muscle fiber size and density) and the fat loss will catch up. Just be consistent and ignore the scale for a few weeks.
Thanks for the information. It is very helpful. I would be afraid to not weigh each week fearing that at the end of the 6 weeks, I'd have gained a lot. I hate these head games!0 -
Also make sure you are drinking enough water!! You are only eating 1500 cals a day? Is that total?
Drinking at least 9 8oz glasses of water (usually more).
I'm 49 body fat 37.8% (UGH), 64" weight 171. I calculated my TDEE using a sedentary job with working out moderately 3-5d/wk. That came to around 2268. I subtracted 500 to lose weight and got 1768. My BMR is 1463. So, I eat between 1500-1700 staying closer to the 1500.
Here's a typical day:
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fat free creamer & coffee
2 eggs and (2) 40 calorie high fiber toast plain OR 3/4 c. (dry) oatmeal
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4-5 oz of protein (meat or cottage cheese)
veggies (lower carb)
High fiber high protein wrap (sometimes)
piece of fruit
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4-5 oz protein
veggies (lower carb)
S air popped popcorn with pam and a little butter spinkles (no fat or calories) OR 1 oz beef jerky (plain)
I have been enjoying a glass or two of red wine with dinner recently (included in my calories) and I just decided to cut that out.
I also think I need to incorporate a protein powder someplace, but am not sure where?
We work out at night after work before we fix supper. I feel pretty spent afterwards.
My goal is to lose weight, decrease BF, and get stronger!0 -
Check this out too... don't give up!
www.turbokick.com/wblog/?p=709
Thanks for the link. I found it very helpful!0 -
definitely read the article SPNluver83 (i think) posted about that0
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I'm P90X biggest fan, and believe me, it does work. Just give time for your body and muscles to recover.0
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I got this off another forum post on MFP. Might help
Why the Scale Goes Up When You Start a New Workout Plan
By Chalene Johnson
Probably the most common question I get when I release a new exercise program is, "Help! I'm gaining weight! Am I doing something wrong?" This is a common phenomenon with any new exercise program, such as Turbo Kick, Turbo Jam, Hip Hop Hustle, or others! It's especially common (and temporary) with intense strength training programs like ChaLEAN Extreme or Tony Horton's P90X.
The motivation to start a new exercise program is almost always to lose weight. However, what most personal trainers know--and most at-home exercisers do not--is that a new exercise program often can cause an immediate (and temporary) increase on the scale. (Notice I didn't say weight gain! I'll explain.) This common increase in the scale is also the reason why perhaps millions of people start and then quickly quit their resolution to get fit.
The temporary weight gain explained:
When someone starts a new exercise program, they often experience muscle soreness. The more intense and "unfamiliar" the program, the more intense the muscle soreness. This soreness is most prevalent 24 to 48 hours after each workout. In the first few weeks of a new program, soreness is the body trying to "protect and defend" the effected or targeted tissue. Exercise physiologists refer to this as delayed-onset muscle soreness, or DOMS.
This type of soreness is thought to be caused by tissue breakdown or microscopic tears in muscle tissue. When this happens, the body protects the tissue. The muscle becomes inflamed and slightly swollen due to fluid retention. This temporary retention of fluid can result in a 3- to 4-pound weight gain within a few weeks of a new program. Keep in mind that muscle soreness is not necessarily a reflection of how hard you worked. In fact, some people feel no signs of muscle soreness, yet will experience the muscle protection mechanisms of water retention and slight swelling.
Most people are motivated enough to put up with this temporary muscle soreness. Yet, many, especially those who really need immediate weight loss to keep them motivated, become discouraged and quit!
When I worked with a group of 70 test participants during the development stages of ChaLEAN Extreme, this happened. Who was the most upset and discouraged? You guessed it... the women! I'm happy to report absolutely for every single woman (and man) in our group, the weight increase was temporary and never lasted more than two weeks before they started to see a major drop in the scale. However, these people had the advantage of working with someone who was able to explain to them why this was happening and assure them the weight would come off if they stuck to the nutrition plan and stayed true to the program.
If you follow a multi-phase exercise plan, such as ChaLEAN Extreme, keep in mind that when you start each phase, your body will be "in shock" again. Don't be surprised or discouraged if you experience a temporary gain on the scale the first week of each phase.
My own personal example of this is running 10Ks. I don't do it very often, maybe once or twice a year. Even though I run on a regular basis, when you run a race, you push much harder. It's natural for me to be insanely sore the next day. It’s also very common for me to see the scale jump 4 pounds the next day from forcing fluids post race and the resulting DOMS. Even though I know the cause of it, it's still a bummer. We're all human and hard work should mean results. Hard work equals results, but our bodies are amazing machines and they know how to protect us from hurting ourselves. Soreness forces you to give those muscles a break. Ultimately you will lose the weight and you will change your metabolism in the process.
The key is understanding that this is a normal and temporary and stick with the program!0 -
Also if you're having blood work done right after starting a new exercise program or if you've done a pretty intense workout two days before, your blood will show excess protein from your muscles breaking down which might alarm the doctor. I know it happened to me.0
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Also if you're having blood work done right after starting a new exercise program or if you've done a pretty intense workout two days before, your blood will show excess protein from your muscles breaking down which might alarm the doctor. I know it happened to me.0
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I recently started running and upped my calories to 1500 from 1200 a day.......mind you I never used to eat my exercise calories back! I run about 4 days a week, days in between I use the elliptical..........when I upped my calories before, I gained 3 pds over 2 weeks, got discouraged and went back to 1200 calores...................I am trying it again by the advice of a friend to give it moe time.................that article was great to read........hopefully you'll give it a longer time like I am...............tons of people swear by it!!!0
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