Jack 3D AND METH?
dia77
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I want to boost my workout and I was thinking to get a pre-workout suplement . Jack 3D seems to work for many people , however , I found some articles on internet saying that has meth in it and is not FDA approved .
I kind of got lost in all the arguments pro and con that I found on several sites ,so I am looking for MFP people oppinion:
Do you guys , think it is safe to take it? They are any side effects ? What is your pre-workout supplement ?
I just started working out at the gym , and I am looking for something that can help me have consistent , fast results , without killing me:)
Thank you:)
I kind of got lost in all the arguments pro and con that I found on several sites ,so I am looking for MFP people oppinion:
Do you guys , think it is safe to take it? They are any side effects ? What is your pre-workout supplement ?
I just started working out at the gym , and I am looking for something that can help me have consistent , fast results , without killing me:)
Thank you:)
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It's not the meth you're thinking of. Still, very few supplements are "FDA approved." Take them at your own risk.
The following is from this website: http://www.jack-3d.com/ingredients:
1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl
1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl is also known as Methylhexaneamine or DMAA. It is a naturally-occurring constituute of the geranium plant. This plant has long been in the food supply and has traditionally been used for a wide variety of purposes. This particular constitute is a stimulant that provides energy and focus to the user. This is one of the things that separates Jack3d from the rest, and makes Jack3d the best pre-workout drink out there.
1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl is safe in small doses. Never exceed recommended dosage and follow directions. Although there are no long-term studies on its usage, it has a long history of safe use.
We will stay on the lookout for more information on geranamine. Geranium has been safely used as an herbal supplement for centuries, though.0 -
I don't know about the meth, but I have read that they are planning to pull it from the shelves.
I've tried it once before, and it made me way too "jacked" - anxious, nervous, and even paranoid. It did give me crazy energy, but not worth the risks.
I personally like NOExplode on the days I need an extra boost - it isn't a caffeine type boost, it just gives some nice, even energy and strength. Plus it is good for recovery. I don't do it often, maybe once a week on my really hard leg days.0 -
There's no "meth" in it. The meth that's mentioned is from the DMAA that Spartacus mentioned. Personally, I'm "jacked" all the time I lift, usually from a flood of caffeine. I think it's more attitude, although if you're tired, Jacked 3D would help.
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There's no "meth" in it. The meth that's mentioned is from the DMAA that Spartacus mentioned. Personally, I'm "jacked" all the time I lift, usually from a flood of caffeine. I think it's more attitude, although if you're tired, Jacked 3D would help.
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Yeah I find that a cup of coffee or a sugar free red bull does the trick if I need a little extra boost...that's pretty much it!
That NoExplode (or however it's spelled) stuff works pretty well too without making you all jittery or anything, if you need a little extra kick in the pants. The only time I really need a boost is if I work out first thing in the morning, and then I just drink a cup of coffee.0 -
Theyre gonna start pulling products with that D-1.... ingredient off the shelves VERY soon, it just got banned. I personally use a 60 serving tub of Cellucor C4 Extreme but wont be buying anymore pre-workouts supplements when its done. Maybe just some caffeein pills or cup of coffee. Creatine has been studied a lot and is ALWAYS recomended by almost anything you'll read. 5 grams a day. Buy some pure creatine monohydrate. This is a good one. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html0
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lay off the meth - makes you old fast!
Seriously though, think I'm with most here when i say.....COFFEE!!!0 -
Watch this.
http://youtu.be/56tlOi7GTz4 0 -
Meth is illegal, maybe it has some amphetamine-like substances in it.....Be careful...I was on prescription Meridia for a year and felt like I was having heart-attacks all the time....and surprise! They banned it.0
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I loved Jack3d and I took that stuff on cycles for about a year, Im in the military and never pissed hot once on that stuff so thats bull****0
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I've tried so many different types of things to give me that extra push with out feeling jittery.. NOExplode is the way to go!!0
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DMAA has been banned at WADA events since 2010.
It is a decongestant with stimulative properties. Many decongestants have similar properties and have been banned by WADA.
It has NOT been banned by the FDA.
It MAY be banned by the US military beginning in 2012 - still under review afaik.0 -
DMAA has been banned at WADA events since 2010.
It is a decongestant with stimulative properties. Many decongestants have similar properties and have been banned by WADA.
It has NOT been banned by the FDA.
It MAY be banned by the US military beginning in 2012 - still under review afaik.
Its not banned for us, we have guys use it all the time0 -
I've tried so many different types of things to give me that extra push with out feeling jittery.. NOExplode is the way to go!!
I second this I love NO Xplode0 -
It has DMAA. works great for some people, but makes others crash.
my favorite preworkout lately has been BSN Hyper FX. It packs almost 300 mgs of caffeine and tastes great.
way better than no xplode IMO0 -
I personally take jack3d before workouts and see a major difference in focus, lifts, and energy. I have never felt a crash afterwards and have been using it as directed on label for 3 weeks no side-effects what-so-ever. We have random drug-tests here at my work never had a problem. Just my two cents.0
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I like to put Meth in my cereal in the morning. Gives me a good kick.0
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i like jack3d. i cycle too. today i am trying ACG3 for the first time which is supposed to be similar.0
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This is interesting to read, thanks for posting. My fiance just recently brought home a bottle of Jack-3D and I was concerned about the stuff. I will bring up some of these pros and cons to him so he is more aware.0
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I've actually tried a few pre-workouts and jack3d by far is one of the BEST out there. The 1st time you take it, you will DEFINITELY get that "Focused-High" and the "Critter tingle" lol which is the beta-alanine kicking in telling your body to "Shoot and Fire!" As long as you're not going "dorm-room" status and taking MORE than what's advised then you'll be fine
Some people have crashes, some people don't it depends on the person. I personally get a bit of a mood swing on "off" days, but then again I AM A WOMAN and it's in my nature to have those at any given time for no reason lol Also, some people tend to build a tolerance after 3-4 weeks. I definitely suggest cycling off for 2-3 weeks then start back up again to let your body "regenerate" if you come across this or switch it up w/ another PWO. "But it's just advice....you can do whatever the fck u wanna do!" -TMW
BTW, Gnc's AMP Muscle Igniter 4x orange (powder form) tastes like *kitten* lol Unless you like the taste of butt-hole then I suggest you avoid it lol0 -
Oh and also forgot to add that the Watermelon, Green Apple, and Blue Raspberry are pretty good flavors 0
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I use Jack3D, have for a year (cycled) - personally hated flavor of No Explode, and did not feel it worked as well for me. So I much prefer Jack. Also tried a few others, always end up back to Jack. No real side effects for me, some tingling as expected for an NO product, but that dissipates after a few uses, and I still get focus and a bit of energy and pep.
The Pineapple Strawberry's really decent tasting, lemonade not so much, but tolerable, raspberry lemon aids ok. I still have to "shoot" them.....
I personally find I have better focus, a few extra reps, helps give me a boost to get through a tough workout, or get motivated to get going .
I just stocked up a few cans, while I can still get it0 -
Just drink a load of caffeine.0
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Jack3d has creatine added which will facilitate with muscle recovery so that you can do your workouts more often without soreness or overtraining, but also causes water retention whch may not go well with your goals. Also in order to see any benefit from it you need to be supplementing creatine on your off days too. So on days where you're not taking your Jack3d you should be taking 3-5g of creatine monohydrate.
OR you could use a creatine free preworkout like BSN HyperFX0 -
Coming from a pre-nursing point of view, I wouldn't advise using anything other than good nutrition and a sports drink. There are all kinds of crazy chemical **** out there that can really mess your bodies systems up. Since taking nutrition and chemistry I've changed my eating habits to be as clean as I can tolerate.
Get your endorphins from the hard work and feed your body the nutrition it needs.0 -
Well, I know the Navy doesn't allow it to be sold in their GNC stores on base anymore. It was supposedly causing failed drug tests. All I can guess is that there were people using it in massive quantities. Or...they happened to be doing drugs. Always that possibility.0
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I just started taking LIT-UP. It is a pre-workout formula without creatine. I prefer to take my creatine seperately just so I feel more comfortable knowing that I am getting the amount of creatine I want without under/over doing it. So far, the LIT-UP is does the trick; however, as with all PWO formulas, it won't take long for your body to acclimate to the "boost" rendering the traditional or "suggested" dose almost useless. I have used NO XPLODE for years... reason I am seeking an alternate is b/c I now need 3.5 scoops to get amped. That is not cost effective and also has a tendency to wreak havoc on your digestive system. As for "FDA Approved" good luck finding any supplement with that backing, including protein!
Oh how I miss the good ole ECA stack. Ephedrine, Caffeine and Aspirin, now that was the most effective fat-burning, intensity giving stack available. It's a shame a few folks failed to heed the warnings and follow the proper protocol for using ephedrine. There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with it when used correctly and man, was it effective!!!
Good Luck.0 -
So..is there pig sperm in sunny d?0
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All I know is that NO Xplode use to send me running to the bathroom.......................0
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umm i doubt it has meth in it. that would be far to expensive and would be off the market in a matter of days if it did. i could be wrong tho. personaly if i even had to guess if something had meth in it, i wouldnt take it. then again i take adderall, and thats in the same category as cocain so who am I to judge.
edit: i just did some google searches and it aparently has amphetamines in it. pretty much the same thing as adderall speed etc. just make sure you dont have to take a drug test unless you want a false positive :]0 -
I use Optimum Nutrition Amino Energy - works well for me, and is one of the "safer" ones I think0
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