Gaining puffy fat on Insanity
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@Tnqnt I mean people who dont really think about what I am saying and just say what they would tell anyone, such as "muscle weighs more than fat" etc (a pound is a pound, if I was gaining muscle my size would be smaller, what they mean probably is muscle is smaller than fat when it weighs the same). I have consulted other beachbody coaches who were just outright rude, nasty, put me down, and said that I have zero excuses. I dont mind being told that, but when you are a coach who has not lost any weight and doesnt even post pics of yourself, how can you tell me anything?I post lots of pics of myself. I wont post the said insanity pics here because I was in my underwear but I dont mind posting pics in clothing or on the beach at my honeymoon. I talk the talk and I walk the walk. If you just talk the talk, dont give me a generic, empty response.
I agree with what you wrote as being rude and generic and even insulting... but no one here did that, did they... honestly?
I think people are trying to help and it is hard for a one size fits all solution. There are rules and there is science and people are responding, I think, to the best of their knowledge using their experience.
No one was rude, here, in their response to you, at least not in this string of posts, in my sincere and honest opinion.
You could be eating too much, too little, it could be a health issue, it could be you are pregnant or you could be over-exercising. The only people who can really figure this out is you and your doctor and nutritionist. Everyone else here is making their best non-professional and non-first hand guess to try to help you, and for that, you should be grateful.
MFP folks are generally here and are so helpful with advice and support.
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I dont remember who, but a woman said a little while ago that she gained weight because she did muscle work that pushed up the fat. I do alot of muscle work, I work my abs ALOT, when I watch TV, when Im bored. I have alot of moves. I can feel my abs hard up and down, but a thick layer of fat right over it. Just made me think, maybe that is happening as well?0
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Also I am just now reading that you have been on depo for about a year. BC in general and specifically with depo and make weight lose hard and a lot of people gain on it. More importantly it can also make your body store more fat in your tummy area. That is another thing you may want to look into. Having a thyroid issue and then adding more hormones into the mix could be what is making you retain your weight and in specific areas.0
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Jeez. You again? You tried that "eat 10,000 calories" garbage on me in another post a few days ago. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
Try eating zero calories every day for a week and doing zero exercise. I have no doubt that you will still "burn fat" (along with muscle in most cases). On the other hand, try eating 10k calories every day for a week and doing as much as exercise as you can. You will not "burn fat" (and probably gain plenty).Yes. I used to run 3 miles every morning, work out in the gym 5 days a week for an hour. I never lost 1lb or any inches.
Once I started counting calories I starting losing 2lbs a week. Diet is everything.
@NoAdditives That goes without saying. If you are not losing weight, let's be honest, you are not filling yourself up on veggies every meal.
Actually, I do eat a ton of fresh vegetables and fruits. My diet is extremely healthy and very clean. That alone does not get my body to burn fat. Having a calorie deficit alone does not get my body to burn fat. The only thing that gets my body burning fat is exercise.
So while your body may need a calorie deficit, others don't. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another.
Also, regarding your last sentence, read this: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.htmlI could just as easily say my Honda gets better mileage than your truck, so I will not go empty on gas by driving. Some burn faster, some slower.
You can't change physics. If you eat at a deficit you will lose weight. Not losing weight? You are NOT eating at a deficit.
Nice try though.
Yeah, I was eating at a deficit. Before I joined MFP I was eating 400-700 net calories a day. I didn't know I was eating that little until I met with a trainer and went over my eating habits. I initially lost 10 pounds and then didn't lose anything for 6 months. Not a single pound after that first 10.
I know how my body works. I know that I don't lose weight if I eat fewer than 1500 net calories. Right now I'm breastfeeding. I'm burning 1200 calories a day from making 60 ounces of milk. I should be eating about 3000 calories a day. Most days I don't come close to that. I'm not losing weight. But, if I do manage to eat 2500 calories or more for a few days in a row, I do drop a couple of pounds.0 -
I prefer month one of Insanity so that is all I do. I do the between week then right back into month one. If it works for you do it again. Maybe you should stop working out and do The Ultimate Reset. Then come back to Insanity with a fresh start.0
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@NoAdditives YOU GO GIRL!! people like that are called internet trolls, they get on forums and all they try to do is solicite responses out of people..thats why some people are not getting responses out of me..but you tell him!! he is so retarded for reusing that same insulting comparison!:laugh:0
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Since you are not logging your food it's hard to say what the problem is - you could be going over in your calories..whether it's 'good' food or bad it's still over the amount of calories you need to consume in one day. You could be under eating and over training. If you want to find a resolution I would suggest that you start logging ALL your meals to track your calories in. And perhaps invest in a HRM to have an accurate reading of your calories out. People will throw a lot of suggestions out to you but that's the only way to know for sure.0
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@NoAdditives I'm sorry we disagree. I weigh 192lbs. I work out at the gym 5 days a week. I walk at 4-4.5mph for 2 hours 3 times a week. I eat 1500 calories max a day. . As I have lost weight, I have had to keep dropping my calories. I am currently losing about 1lb a week.
At 2500 you are eating 1000 calories a day more than me. Some how I doubt you are burning more than I am. So again, the answer is clear, you are eating too many calories. At 2500 a day, I would be gaining a lot of weight.
To those calling us trolls, we are sincerely trying to help, you just are not getting the answer you want to hear. You know what you need to do to lose weight, it's up to you to do it.0 -
I am so sorry for what you are going through. I really think it would be helpful to start counting your calories. Before I started I had no clue how overboard I was eating on a daily basis. I've only been counting calories for almost two months now and it is a tremendous help for me. I also noticed you stated you lowered your carb a lot which I do not think helped you at all. The carbs are supposed to give you energy especially if you are doing work outs like Insanity. I think that is also a reason why you were passing out. Maybe not eating enough calories and definetly not enough carbs. I think that if you change these things and go back to month 1 you will be okay and will begin to loose weight again. Good luck on your journey and please let us know how it turns out. And please try not to let this get you into a depression. I know it is hard but tracking your calories will really benefit you in the end especially using this MFP. I really wish the best to you and I hope your health gets better soon. And please increase your carbs if your gonna continue to do insanity or anything else that strenuous you want to make sure that you are eating enough so you have enough energy to make it through the workout. :flowerforyou:0
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I think logging you food would be helpful. From your description of only eating soups and salads during the day, it's actually likely that you aren't eating enough! Your body is holding onto everything because you are overdoing it on the little calories you are consuming.
I know if I let my calories get too low, I also get lightheaded. Have never passed out, but I'm not doing Insanity either.
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I don't think it is counting calories that is the problem. Counting calories is not the answer to your problems. I believe you should go back to your eating habits that you had in the first month. Different things work for different people. Don't be discouraged, you can do this. I had the same problem until I started listening to my body. If you are fainting, you need to slow down and feed your body right. Give your body the rest it needs and do the nutritional things that work for you. Hope everything works out for you. 0
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Thanks to the last couple of woman who posted. Im not concerned that the trolls are saying that what I do is wrong or right, its the fact that they feel so great about themselves that they can pass judgement on me instead of weighing the situation. So many great suggestions! I want to count calories to see where I am but at the same time I dont want to put myself in a position again where I'm like "hold on..gotta take out my phone..::thumbs through phone:: ok Im searching for the meal, Im adding the meal...OH WAIT! I cant find it...wait maybe I can just replace it with something similar?"
Anyway I am gonna put everything I ate yesterday into the counter and see what it says, I will post, just give me a few minutes0 -
Thanks to the last couple of woman who posted. Im not concerned that the trolls are saying that what I do is wrong or right, its the fact that they feel so great about themselves that they can pass judgement on me instead of weighing the situation. So many great suggestions! I want to count calories to see where I am but at the same time I dont want to put myself in a position again where I'm like "hold on..gotta take out my phone..::thumbs through phone:: ok Im searching for the meal, Im adding the meal...OH WAIT! I cant find it...wait maybe I can just replace it with something similar?"
Anyway I am gonna put everything I ate yesterday into the counter and see what it says, I will post, just give me a few minutes
In all honesty...after you count calories awhile it becomes second nature. And especially when you start to see the results!!!!!....then you really see the value of logging everything! Best wishes!0 -
Alot of people here are so positive and helpful. Not giving me generic or rude responses. I love the help, and I am going to start counting a little bit again just to have an idea.
When I first started counting I would obsess. One way around that is I would write everything down for a week then go back and put it in MFP so I did not worry about the numbers. I did weigh/measure everything but this kept me from knowing exactly what I was consuming until it was too late for me to worry about what I could/should and could not eat every day. Instead I would look at the week total and think okay I need to eat more/less depending on the numbers.
What I sometimes do to not feel like I am obsessing is I plan and record my meals to the best of my ability for the week before it starts. Then at the end of the week I fill in the changes and gaps. on the site two days out of the week can be better then every day after every meal. 0 -
Alright guys I calulated everything. I put everything I ate yesterday and I put my 2 workouts that I did, Insanity and 2 brazilian butt lift workouts (they are shorter so I dont mind doing it)
I ate a net total of 975 calories yesterday.0 -
I don't think you are pregnant, but I know that Depo Provera makes a LOT of women gain a lot of weight. If weight loss is a priority, I would consider switching birth control methods.
After my third or fourth round of depo I started packing on lbs like crazy and TOM never went away. Definetly one of the worst birth control experiences I ever had. And at the time I was not overweight (ages ago). I advise everyone against it. I've had non hormone iud for 6 years now and don't even think about it, no issues.0 -
@Melaniec78 I am too scared to have that IUD implanted :noway:0
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Alright guys I calulated everything. I put everything I ate yesterday and I put my 2 workouts that I did, Insanity and 2 brazilian butt lift workouts (they are shorter so I dont mind doing it)
I ate a net total of 975 calories yesterday.
Yes, that's too few! My guess is that you were able to lose during your first 30 days because of your cheat days that helped to level out your calories. You need to eat!! 0 -
So do you have anything else to say other than it's "stupid"? I didn't "try" anything, I gave an example to prove a point. The fact is that it is about calories vs calories out, and you are not a thermodynamic miracle.Jeez. You again? You tried that "eat 10,000 calories" garbage on me in another post a few days ago. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
Nice try though.0 -
WOW I love how you take your time to bother the woman who pointed out that you are bothering people, and yet you have nothing to say when I posted my calories, Mr. we cant help you unless you post calories. well what? I posted them? Nothing?? I told you I am not overeating, if anything its under eatting.0
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If you're fainting, then you're either training too hard for your fitness level, or your nutrition is wrong. I'd start with the nutrition.
Counting calories IS the best thing you can do. Estimating isn't the same as having actual numbers. And they do count.
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If you're fainting, then you're either training too hard for your fitness level, or your nutrition is wrong. I'd start with the nutrition.
Counting calories IS the best thing you can do. Estimating isn't the same as having actual numbers. And they do count.
Spot on. Everything has been said. There is nothing more we can tell you. Best of luck with your goals.0 -
I had nothing to say about your posts because I did not bother reading the more recent ones. It's clear that you only listen to the advice you want to hear. I already tried to help you, what more do you want? Go do whatever it is that you want to do based on the advice that you like.WOW I love how you take your time to bother the woman who pointed out that you are bothering people, and yet you have nothing to say when I posted my calories, Mr. we cant help you unless you post calories. well what? I posted them? Nothing?? I told you I am not overeating, if anything its under eatting.
As for your calorie post, you already admitted you don't count calories nor do you want to. If you think retroactively counting calories (and likely inaccurately) for ONE day is going to change things, you are mistaken. Buy a kitchen food scale, count calories accurately for three to four weeks minimum, eat at a moderate deficit with 1g/protein per lb, forget about insanity and incorporate a traditional lifting program, and do some moderate intensity cardio a few times a week (if you want).
Weigh yourself every 3-4 days around the same time with the same level of hydration. Look for trends over time and don't get too worked up on minor fluctuations. Only then can someone reasonably conclude that you may have serious thyroid/other metabolic issues.0 -
I eat the same thing everyday. No one believes me when I tell them that because theres really no variety in my diet. The only person who can really believe it is my husband and thats cause he lives with me. I have said it time and time again, I eat the same exact thing everyday. I do it because I like it, I do it because I dont have to think about what to eat. I do it because I dont have to think about it. Believe it or not, yesterday is a typical weekday for me.0
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No trolls I've seen, just people trying to help. We all use our own examples of what worked for us. People who have been on this site for a long time and have lost significant weight would not be considered trolls.0
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I eat the same thing everyday. No one believes me when I tell them that because theres really no variety in my diet. The only person who can really believe it is my husband and thats cause he lives with me. I have said it time and time again, I eat the same exact thing everyday. I do it because I like it, I do it because I dont have to think about what to eat. I do it because I dont have to think about it. Believe it or not, yesterday is a typical weekday for me.
Quantity is vastly more important than quality for weight loss. Note that studies have proven that many people vastly underestimate how much they eat and overestimate how much they expend from exercise. And I'm not calling you a liar, you may very well have some other issues that need to be dealt with. But my point is that we cannot reasonably determine this without you doing what I described in my previous post. What is the harm in actually measuring/counting the calories for a few weeks? You even admit you eat the same thing everyday, so it shouldn't be that hard.0 -
@NoAdditives I'm sorry we disagree. I weigh 192lbs. I work out at the gym 5 days a week. I walk at 4-4.5mph for 2 hours 3 times a week. I eat 1500 calories max a day. . As I have lost weight, I have had to keep dropping my calories. I am currently losing about 1lb a week.
At 2500 you are eating 1000 calories a day more than me. Some how I doubt you are burning more than I am. So again, the answer is clear, you are eating too many calories. At 2500 a day, I would be gaining a lot of weight.
To those calling us trolls, we are sincerely trying to help, you just are not getting the answer you want to hear. You know what you need to do to lose weight, it's up to you to do it.
Obviously, you missed the part where I said I'm burning about 1200 calories a day producing breast milk.0 -
So do you have anything else to say other than it's "stupid"? I didn't "try" anything, I gave an example to prove a point. The fact is that it is about calories vs calories out, and you are not a thermodynamic miracle. I guess facts are inconvenient though for some people.Jeez. You again? You tried that "eat 10,000 calories" garbage on me in another post a few days ago. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
Nice try though.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html
It is stupid because 10,000 calories is a hyperbole. I don't think anyone on this site would ever advocate for eating that many calories. But, there are some people who need a smaller deficit in order to actually lose weight. I fully understand the idea that people need to eat fewer calories than they burn in order to lose weight. But, through experimentation with different amounts of calories, I have found that I need a small deficit in order for my body to burn fat. If a large deficit worked for me I'd be dropping weight crazy fast right now. But it doesn't, and I'm not.0 -
And I quote "A breastfeeding woman burns between 200 and 500 calories per day more than non-breastfeeding women"
1200 a day? Are you breastfeeding triplets?
I had a strong feeling before, but now I can comfortably say you are trolling. I hope the OP can get some useful information and make the needed changes, as to me, I am done feeding the troll.0 -
Yes, 10k is a hyperbole, so what? Is 5k more practical for you? Either way, my point still stands.
So do you have anything else to say other than it's "stupid"? I didn't "try" anything, I gave an example to prove a point. The fact is that it is about calories vs calories out, and you are not a thermodynamic miracle. I guess facts are inconvenient though for some people.Jeez. You again? You tried that "eat 10,000 calories" garbage on me in another post a few days ago. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
Nice try though.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html
It is stupid because 10,000 calories is a hyperbole. I don't think anyone on this site would ever advocate for eating that many calories. But, there are some people who need a smaller deficit in order to actually lose weight. I fully understand the idea that people need to eat fewer calories than they burn in order to lose weight. But, through experimentation with different amounts of calories, I have found that I need a small deficit in order for my body to burn fat. If a large deficit worked for me I'd be dropping weight crazy fast right now. But it doesn't, and I'm not.
Eating zero calories would be a "large deficit", and I can guarantee you that you will lose weight (and eventually die from starvation). Do you disagree? If you agree, then how can you say a large deficit does not work for you?
Of course there are people who may want to stick to smaller deficits - I am well aware of the problems associated with large deficits in certain conditions(metabolic slowdown, plateaus, and whatnot). I was not making any recommendations in my post for you to increase your deficit. just contending your absolute statements such as "the only thing that gets my body burning fat is exercise" and "So while your body may need a calorie deficit, others don't.". These statements are just plain wrong in the context of weight loss.0
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