How do u know if you're burning muscle or fat ?

Sounds like its better to do strength training than cardio? I get my 10,000 steps a day in, am I better off to not? And just lift 3xs week? Been at it a month, nada! So I just read someone else post about burning muscle.

I won't say better. But cardio IS unnecessary for fat loss. I lost 40lbs of fat with virtually no cardio...by strength training 3x a week, and getting my protein in.





That being said, I'm thinking about incorporating in more cardio once I get back to where I was in those pictures...but it's a preferance and overall fitness thing, not for fat loss.

nada what? weight loss?

what about your food? your diary is closed!

i think i recall somewhere on here saying if your body is burning muscle then your urine smells a lot like ammonia.

not sure if that's true or not.

in my opinion a mix of the two have been working for me and my goals. weight training is far better for fat loss but not ideal for seeing too many changes on the scale. cardio isnt so good for fat loss (for me) but is good for seeing scale results. i want to see both because i want to wear a smaller size and because i know my ankle and knee joints are going to suddenly stop hurting because my 200 pound body has changed from 33% fat to 25% fat. too much weight for your frame = too much weight for your frame.

of course everyone is different. i have a good friend who lost 80 pounds doing nothing but cardio (elliptical and arc trainer). i think that worked for her because she never really exercised AT ALL before then.

i think i recall somewhere on here saying if your body is burning muscle then your urine smells a lot like ammonia.

not sure if that's true or not.

in my opinion a mix of the two have been working for me and my goals. weight training is far better for fat loss but not ideal for seeing too many changes on the scale. cardio isnt so good for fat loss (for me) but is good for seeing scale results. i want to see both because i want to wear a smaller size and because i know my ankle and knee joints are going to suddenly stop hurting because my 200 pound body has changed from 33% fat to 25% fat. too much weight for your frame = too much weight for your frame.

of course everyone is different. i have a good friend who lost 80 pounds doing nothing but cardio (elliptical and arc trainer). i think that worked for her because she never really exercised AT ALL before then.

Also...how long did it take your friend??

When you burn fat it will catch on fire and cause a huge flame.

when you burn muscle it generally just smokes.

Bumping ppl on here got some good advices.

i think i recall somewhere on here saying if your body is burning muscle then your urine smells a lot like ammonia.

not sure if that's true or not.

in my opinion a mix of the two have been working for me and my goals. weight training is far better for fat loss but not ideal for seeing too many changes on the scale. cardio isnt so good for fat loss (for me) but is good for seeing scale results. i want to see both because i want to wear a smaller size and because i know my ankle and knee joints are going to suddenly stop hurting because my 200 pound body has changed from 33% fat to 25% fat. too much weight for your frame = too much weight for your frame.

of course everyone is different. i have a good friend who lost 80 pounds doing nothing but cardio (elliptical and arc trainer). i think that worked for her because she never really exercised AT ALL before then.

Also...how long did it take your friend??

a little less than a year. it wasnt just cardio, she fixed her diet as well. nothing radical - we'd still meet for a weekly meal at a favorite thai place - but was more sensible. she's also young (10 years younger than me) and you know how they are, they change a little bit in their diet and exercise and whoosh weight just falls off :laugh:

i did get the impression that even though she was happy with how she looked in her clothes, she wasnt too happy about unclothed. we're not THOSE kind of friends so I can't say for sure if she was still fairly flabby after reaching her goal weight, but she's now getting more into weight training and sems to be happy with the results she's getting

Good points in the bottom there . My point was...I know people who strength train that have lost substantially more fat than that in a similar period. I lost 40lbs in 3mos as I said above. AND, what they lose is primarily fat...whereas your friend probably didn't receive that benefit (as you sort of pointed out in your bottom statement).

Again, cardio is good for you...but it's not anywhere near the same as strength training for body recomposition/fat loss.

i think i recall somewhere on here saying if your body is burning muscle then your urine smells a lot like ammonia.

not sure if that's true or not.

in my opinion a mix of the two have been working for me and my goals. weight training is far better for fat loss but not ideal for seeing too many changes on the scale. cardio isnt so good for fat loss (for me) but is good for seeing scale results. i want to see both because i want to wear a smaller size and because i know my ankle and knee joints are going to suddenly stop hurting because my 200 pound body has changed from 33% fat to 25% fat. too much weight for your frame = too much weight for your frame.

of course everyone is different. i have a good friend who lost 80 pounds doing nothing but cardio (elliptical and arc trainer). i think that worked for her because she never really exercised AT ALL before then.

Also...how long did it take your friend??

a little less than a year. it wasnt just cardio, she fixed her diet as well. nothing radical - we'd still meet for a weekly meal at a favorite thai place - but was more sensible. she's also young (10 years younger than me) and you know how they are, they change a little bit in their diet and exercise and whoosh weight just falls off :laugh:

i did get the impression that even though she was happy with how she looked in her clothes, she wasnt too happy about unclothed. we're not THOSE kind of friends so I can't say for sure if she was still fairly flabby after reaching her goal weight, but she's now getting more into weight training and sems to be happy with the results she's getting

Good points in the bottom there . My point was...I know people who strength train that have lost substantially more fat than that in a similar period. I lost 40lbs in 3mos as I said above. AND, what they lose is primarily fat...whereas your friend probably didn't receive that benefit (as you sort of pointed out in your bottom statement).

Again, cardio is good for you...but it's not anywhere near the same as strength training for body recomposition/fat loss.

yeah but you're a dude :laugh: i wouldnt expect to have the same type of results as you since i have significantly more estrogen than you and that's going to want me to be squishier. i mean i worked out with weights for 3 months and didnt lose 40 pounds... heck i've been at it for 5 months and only at 26 pounds and i've been pushing my 1 max reps consistently..

anywho, it's hard to tell though with people like my friends. since they werent super athletic to begin with, it's hard to say what their muscle mass would have looked like before. i dont think she had any body fat tests done but that would be interesting to see the results

Haven't tried that. Squats even cause problems. Just sent back brazil butt lift for that reason. I have a bodybugg my ave TDEE is between 2000& 2500. Just bumpedy cals up after reading eat more to weigh less. I only get 5-6 good(?) hrs sleep per night Maybe that's it? Bmr is 1450.

Lack of sleep will definately not help weight loss.

If you have access to a gym, you may want to try out some other types of lifts/machines (obviously go light at first). Or better yet, see if you can talk to your doctor/physio about what you can do.

A lot of folks like the Jillian Michaels DVDs and really like them. I do not use DVDs - but I do not have the restrictions you do - so they are probably worth giving a go. Some have weights but you can just go lighter if necessary. They will help build endurance and can help with some muscle definition.

I would also try focussing on getting a lot of fluids and being aware of the salt in your food. Salt will not impede fat loss - but you may be suseptable to water weight if you have too much which may mask what I think of as 'real' weight loss.

When you burn fat it will catch on fire and cause a huge flame.

when you burn muscle it generally just smokes.

very nice!

i have heard one quick way to tell if you are burning fat, is that even while sweating, your skin feels cool. i've noticed this during zumba and running (it was 80 out, so no reason i should be cold!!)

The only guaranteed way is to get a ketone urine test. If you have ketones in your urine you are burning fat.

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Very interesting topic I loved the guy that said fat bursts into flame and muscle just smokes

thanks!, just just having fun!! on the serious side, I think you have to really starve yourself to burn muscle, I lost 50 pounds and increased my bicepts and chest, and increased in strength in pretty much every area so I guess I wasn't burning muscle.... I lift, but cardio is my bread and butter!!