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  • ThePinkPachyderm
    ThePinkPachyderm Posts: 141
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    Rather than dismiss science altogether, post the studies you're referring to.

    That certainly seems like WAY more work than blanket dismissal .. but if you insist:

    Here is a fancy pants article with lots of jargon and wordiness.. so it is probably all true:

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/25/2/399.full

    And here is a livestrong article ... the words are smaller .. so it doesn't sound near as science-y ...

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/306817-caffeine-insulin-resistance/
  • candlegal
    candlegal Posts: 220 Member
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    Okay here is my experience . . . .. I quite diet cherry coke about 2-3 months ago, I have done this before with good luck. So it has been a few months and yes it has helped. I use to drink about 5 to 6 cans of diet cherry coke A DAY!!! I truly believe that there is something in the diet coke that increases my appetite. Not the caffeine but the actual diet part of the coke. When I quit the diet coke I don't have that need, feeling of wanting to eat. I do however still drink coffee. I use the K-cups for my Keurig Coffee maker, the cafe mochas with international delights coffee creamers 35 cal. I try to limit those to only in the morning and 1 or 2 per day.
    I do believe you are doing the right thing to either eliminate the diet soda or at least cut back. Try to drink more water- we are 2/3 water and our cells need more water to regenerate and keep us healthy and feeling well! You will feel so much better if you increase your water intake! I drink 12 to 16 glasses of water a day- NO diet cherry coke anymore, I feel so much better and have lost weight at a much quicker pace:) Good luck to you!!
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
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    Rather than dismiss science altogether, post the studies you're referring to.

    That certainly seems like WAY more work than blanket dismissal .. but if you insist:

    Here is a fancy pants article with lots of jargon and wordiness.. so it is probably all true:

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/25/2/399.full

    And here is a livestrong article ... the words are smaller .. so it doesn't sound near as science-y ...

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/306817-caffeine-insulin-resistance/
    I don't see how either of those articles are relevant to your concerns of caffeine aiding in weight gain. Also, insulin resistance is usually a good thing while dieting.
  • VMarkV
    VMarkV Posts: 522 Member
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    Caffeine slightly increases BMR but I always take caffeine because it is also proven to increase cognition...who doesn't want to be smarter?
  • ThePinkPachyderm
    ThePinkPachyderm Posts: 141
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    I don't see how either of those articles are relevant to your concerns of caffeine aiding in weight gain. Also, insulin resistance is usually a good thing while dieting.

    The articles aren't relevant to anything, that's the point, the are just a bunch of gobblety gook about caffeine and insulin. There are lots of posts on the internet that directly relate these finding to weight loss, but they are much less sciency and much more "some lady with a blog trying to sound like a caffeine expert". So I didn't post those, because.. why? You own a googler, you are welcome to sift through the 1000's of articles on the subject.. but not this guy, I like the easy route, that is why I am here asking people that have already done all that work to quickly summarize all the data in the universe on the subject and tell it back to me in a few easy to digest sentences .. it just works better for me that way
  • Sunpoet
    Sunpoet Posts: 67
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    I love coffee, if I could I'd go around with a IV drip of the stuff going 24/7. However, since I know too much caffeine can be a bad thing, I limit myself to 2 cups a day. I add just a hint of flavored creamer to take the edge of the bitterness.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
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    Rather than dismiss science altogether, post the studies you're referring to.

    That certainly seems like WAY more work than blanket dismissal .. but if you insist:

    Here is a fancy pants article with lots of jargon and wordiness.. so it is probably all true:

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/25/2/399.full

    And here is a livestrong article ... the words are smaller .. so it doesn't sound near as science-y ...

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/306817-caffeine-insulin-resistance/
    Insulin resistance is actually GOOD for weight loss. It signals to your body that you have a huge surplus of food, to the point where it is starting to adversely affect your health, and that your body needs to stop storing fat. This is one of the factors that allow the obese to lose 1 or more pounds of fat per day without substantial muscle loss, while a "healthy" weight person can manage maybe one pound per week with some muscle loss.
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
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    I don't see how either of those articles are relevant to your concerns of caffeine aiding in weight gain. Also, insulin resistance is usually a good thing while dieting.

    The articles aren't relevant to anything, that's the point, the are just a bunch of gobblety gook about caffeine and insulin. There are lots of posts on the internet that directly relate these finding to weight loss, but they are much less sciency and much more "some lady with a blog trying to sound like a caffeine expert". So I didn't post those, because.. why? You own a googler, you are welcome to sift through the 1000's of articles on the subject.. but not this guy, I like the easy route, that is why I am here asking people that have already done all that work to quickly summarize all the data in the universe on the subject and tell it back to me in a few easy to digest sentences .. it just works better for me that way
    Here's a good summary sort of thing you are looking for (although a bit longer than a few sentences).
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/coffee-diabetes-and-weight-control-research-review.html
  • starcatcher1975
    starcatcher1975 Posts: 292 Member
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    I've been off of it since January (in liquid form) and also had some this weekend. I've gained weight this weekend but I'm not sure if it's the caffeine or if it was something else. I am just super sensitive to caffeine, even when it's in food so I've been trying to avoid it. But now that you mention it, I have had a really hard time losing weight. Maybe I'm just not dedicated or hard core enough or maybe there really is something to caffeine helping a person lose weight. Hope that made sense, I've been up for almost 2 days now and I'm really just ready for bed
  • CoachDave2012
    CoachDave2012 Posts: 34 Member
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    ^ That was posted in white.
  • kazzari
    kazzari Posts: 473 Member
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    Here is an interesting article about coffee that just came in my email from John Berardi of Precision Nutrition. Based on science...coffee is good for some, maybe not so good for others. Happily, it seems I'm one who will benefit according to this article.

    http://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-coffee
  • froeschli
    froeschli Posts: 1,292 Member
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    Ha, i couldn't get up in the morning without a coffee. Since cutting down on sugar, what else is going to keep me going?
    I don't usually drink more than a cup a day though, usually 50/50 mix with milk (makes 2 cups that way :wink:)...

    When i used to drink tim hortons coffee though, i'd get an extra large on the way to work, then a large on the way home. if i didn't have one, i'd get migraines, and cravings, not necessarily in that order.

    I think it all depends on the measure, how you feel, and knowing what's in it - that's why i now brew my own...
  • Cely21
    Cely21 Posts: 50 Member
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    All this caffeine talk.. I think I'll go have me a cup now. :drinker:
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
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    I don't see how either of those articles are relevant to your concerns of caffeine aiding in weight gain. Also, insulin resistance is usually a good thing while dieting.

    Insulin Resistance ***is not and never will be*** a good thing - it is the worst thing to be battling while watching your intake.

    These are references that the physicians I work for, and see as a patient, give to their other patients for easier understanding on the reasons why insulin-resistance is a major health issue.

    http://diabetes.webmd.com/guide/insulin-resistance-syndrome
    http://diabetes.webmd.com/tc/insulin-resistance-topic-overview
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
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    I wasn't referring to diabetics.
    And regarding the topic, the studies that claim caffeine raises insulin and causes insulin resistance are partially true. It depends on the dosage of caffeine (right before a meal). The studies use a ridiculously high dose which isn't relevant in the real world (in most cases). Also, epidemiological studies show that regular caffeine intake may actually be beneficial in limiting diabetes (and helping in weight loss).
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
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    Take your clothes back off and answer this question:


    What is your favorite American beer?




    Lady Homebrewer - 3yrs
    MFP Smarty-pants and sometimes food logger
    Also, boobs.
  • maab_connor
    maab_connor Posts: 3,927 Member
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    i think that if your body likes caffeine, then give it over! i love and adore coffee, you know this. but there are plenty of other NATURAL caffeine sources out there. black tea, for instance, comes in a variety of flavors and most are caffinated. chocolate has some, as well as all the bennefits of good, DARK chocolate.

    i am pro staying away from sodas - or "pop" as you so wrongly call them. but i cannot live w/o my coffee. find a caffeine source that doesn't have half a chem lab in it and drink up.
  • PJilly
    PJilly Posts: 21,738 Member
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    What is your favorite American beer?
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  • jdploki70
    jdploki70 Posts: 343
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    You can always tell the seattle locals by their taste in beer...

    On the caffeine, I think if I went cold turkey I would probably not function at all. Good for going 5 months without.
  • thrld
    thrld Posts: 610 Member
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    Caffeine and excercise can help lower your risk of certain cancers.



    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/243736.php



    "I'm not drinking coffee, I'm fighting cancer"

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