Accepting mediocrity

Wonderob
Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
edited December 2024 in Motivation and Support
I would love to do a high intensity exercise program such as Insanity or P90X and would have no problem getting motivated to 'be the best that I could be'.... Unfortunately 40 years playing sport, broken bones, sprains, strains, and dislocations have taken their toll on my body. I know that when I 'give it my all' these days - an injury is sure to follow.

So now I have to take it easy down the gym, hold back on what I would like to do. The trouble is, it's not easy getting motivated to be 'pretty fit', striving for mediocrity if you like.

Any tips?

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  • triple7s
    triple7s Posts: 2
    Well, you just have to be the best you can be. If that means going at a lesser pace then so be it. You are still making an effort and that is what really matters.
  • guardian419
    guardian419 Posts: 391 Member
    You can still do the 'high intensity' exercises, but at a lighter pace until you get comfortable with them.
  • allisonrozsa
    allisonrozsa Posts: 178 Member
    Be a biker!
  • Pronoiac
    Pronoiac Posts: 304
    A) start slow but consistently work to a higher level. You will likely surprise yourself at how much you can do if you give your body time to grow into activities.

    B) Find sports or activities that you can do. Experiment and step outside the comfort zone if need be.
  • alli_baba
    alli_baba Posts: 232 Member
    Be a biker!

    ^^ this (or something like it). I've been a competitive athlete for most of my life, and like you, I suffer from the years of pounding and stress (e.g. running a marathon is completely out for me). But if you need competitive sports to keep you motivated, find one that your body can handle. I've done Masters swimming for years -- it's fun, competitive, easy(ish) on the body, and allows you to set challenging fitness goals.

    If you don't like swimming, there are loads of other competitive sports that you can do even if you have previous sports-related injuries. Like bicycling (like the previous poster suggested). Just find one you like and go for it.
  • CakeFit21
    CakeFit21 Posts: 2,521 Member
    I don't see how that is accepting mediocrity. It is accepting reality. You can still be as amazing as your body will allow. I've done p90x and insanity and IMO they will not make you the "best" at anything accept those workout routines. Find what you love to do and do it. Do it because it's FUN, just like the sports you used to play.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    There is no reason that you can't push yourself within your limits. Find something you love doing and do it to the best of your abilities. Work around any medical or physical injuries you have, but that shouldn't be an excuse not to be your best.
  • jetscreaminagain
    jetscreaminagain Posts: 1,130 Member
    What Karin said. Always what Karin says.

    OR.

    Be very planful about what you choose to do. Engage in strengthening routines that prehabilitate and rehabiilitate your weaker areas. If you were a traditional weight lifter a couple decades ago, you may well have over trained your bench presses at the expense of your back and rotator cuff. Nowadays there are programs that don't just rely on the big sexy lifts, but also shore up the stabilizing muscles that support the big sexy lifts. New Rules of Lifting for Women (not your thing, I bet) is doing that for me. Due to a psychotic patient, I have a rotator cuff injury that is permanent and is similar to the injuries that top level pitchers are prone to. In part because of the training that pitchers do, and also because of the forces involved in sending a ball at that speed at the plate. New Rules is having me do exercises to balance the strengths and weaknesses that are natural in a woman's body. One of them is the YTWL, which is very similar to what my Physical Therapist had me do to rehabilitate after my injury. I am now stronger than I was before the injury. I see no reason why I can't go and be stronger.

    Ok, maybe your sports were more endurance based. Injury or not, you're not gonna be as fast at 40 as you were at 20 if you were anything like fit at 20. But can you be an excellent 40 year old runner? I think so. [disclaimer, I will soon enough be 40 so that's the number I'm pulling out. You are suggesting you used to be younger, so I'm thinking this is your issue. If you are actually 28 and bemoaning your aging body, just get over it or buy a sports car]. Again, what sports medicine/science knows now is better than what it knew 20 years ago. Get someone smart to design a plan to strengthen your weaknesses--knees? IT band? whatever.

    Just make a plan to address your challenges and go get it. There was a 65 year old along side of me at Tough Mudder. He left me in the dust too.
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    Thanks for the replies

    I still do play lots of sports, I play 90 minutes of football and love it - then take 2 weeks to recover!
    I started running - took it easy at first, then my compeditive nature took over and I could be seen on the treadmill looking like i was Rocky training for a fight! Within a month I had shinsplints and plantar fascia in both feet!
    I start off slowly lifting weights down the gym, then invariably I'm soon lifting like my life depends on it. Sat here now with a torn back muscle!

    Now cycling! Well my knees aren't TOO bad so thought this would be aa good alternative to running - and it is.......
    However, within a few weeks I had bought a brand new bike and I'm already cycling more than perhaps I should. I looked at myself with disgust when I averaged only 13 mph on my first few proper rides - top marathon runners RUN at that speed for 26 miles for goodness sake! So of course I upped my effort and now I'm going faster, for longer... and more often. All good, but I'm overdoing it - my body aches and my knees are sore; how long before I ruin this one!?
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    i just cant do it. i love playing sports and when i play i play to win. if that means losing a limb so be it! :)
  • sportygal
    sportygal Posts: 221 Member
    It sounds like you overtrain and that's why no matter what sport you do, you deal with injuries. I am my own worst enemy and have had injuries due to overuse and being overzealous. It sounds like you need to work on the mental aspect of what you are trying to do, and I say that because I'm facing the same problems.
    I have a hurt back, but I'm working around it and it kills me to not be able to do the weight and things I want to do, but there is still things I CAN do.
    If you have joint issues like me, swimming and water aerobics can be helpful. I'm not talking about geriatric aerobics either...you can get a lot of high intensity from running in the pool, jumping in the pool and even boxing in the pool. And of course swimming! :)
    Meditation, yoga, pilates can also be alternatives.
    I'm my own worst enemy and also if you find what functional issues you might have with your body, you might be able to play it better the next time.
    Well hang in there and it takes a lot of courage to be patient when we all want to go out there and kick butt!
    I have a tattoo.....be patient and tough, this pain will be useful to you. I'm not patient, but I'm doing what I can and doing my best to avoid further injury which is far more of a challenge!!
    Good luck!
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
    I'm similar to you. If I'm not THE BEST, then I'm "mediocre" or "average". Guess what... I'm in therapy for it. It's not really a healthy way of thinking because it doesn't actually make you a better person - it only sets the bar for achievement for yourself higher and higher so that at some point, it's unattainable, and all you end up with is disappointment in yourself.

    I agree that it's awesome to push yourself, but I think you need to accept yourself as a human being and not a superhero who can do everything as well as any other person on the planet. Those goals are not realistic. Marathon runners do not run at 13mph for 26 miles. Not sure where you get that.

    I only say this because I see a lot of myself in the way you post. Hyper competitive to the point of self-destruction. My only advice is... Push yourself as long as you're being constructive about it for YOU, not to compare yourself to others, or to set yourself up for disappointment. You should be happy with what you can achieve. If you're not happy, then you need to readjust your goals, not train until you're injured.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    dont overlook the pool. try some high knee sprints. it's hard work on the pool but none of that strains your joints
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    I'm similar to you. If I'm not THE BEST, then I'm "mediocre" or "average". Guess what... I'm in therapy for it. It's not really a healthy way of thinking because it doesn't actually make you a better person - it only sets the bar for achievement for yourself higher and higher so that at some point, it's unattainable, and all you end up with is disappointment in yourself.

    I agree that it's awesome to push yourself, but I think you need to accept yourself as a human being and not a superhero who can do everything as well as any other person on the planet. Those goals are not realistic. Marathon runners do not run at 13mph for 26 miles. Not sure where you get that.

    I only say this because I see a lot of myself in the way you post. Hyper competitive to the point of self-destruction. My only advice is... Push yourself as long as you're being constructive about it for YOU, not to compare yourself to others, or to set yourself up for disappointment. You should be happy with what you can achieve. If you're not happy, then you need to readjust your goals, not train until you're injured.

    Excellent points, thanks

    Oh yeah recently during the London marathon they mentioned that they were on course for just over 2 hours for the 26 miles - world record is 2 hours 3 minutes so 26 miles in 2 hours = 13mph? That's incredibly what I rode a bike at - and I thought I was going pretty fast!
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    i just cant do it. i love playing sports and when i play i play to win. if that means losing a limb so be it! :)

    Yes unfortunately this is my take on it too

    I'm sure all the other dads wanted to win the Father's day race too - but I bet they didn't want it as bad as I did!!! (3 years undefeated by the way)

    Like secretlobster said - I'm sure it's a mental thing with me, probably stemmed from trying to impress my dad! Worryingly my boy Joe is exactly the same (uh oh!) I'm glad my wife is much more sensible when it comes to sport
  • Aperture_Science
    Aperture_Science Posts: 840 Member
    Generalise rather than specialise. Aiming to be the best <insert something here> is tough and works certain parts of the body extremely hard whilst often neglecting other area or other facets of fitness. Generalising means that you can give some aspects a bit of a rest whilst concentrating on another discipline of facet of "fitness".

    So, rather than being a (for example) great distance runner. you could set yourself the goal to be a reasonable distance runner, who can also sprint, who can lift a reasonable amount of weight, has good flexibility and is an above average swimmer?
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    I always believe in the path of least resistance. In terms of following MFP this means eating and drinking what I like within my calorie allowance while aiming for healthy options 80% of the time but not kicking myself when I don't. It means digging in occasionally training hard for a goal when I have an event coming up. It means taking it easy when I'm injured or, like now, recovering from illness. It means doing what I feel like for exercise when I'm not motivated to do what I'm "supposed" to do, so I've done something.

    I'm never going to manage sub-10 minute miles over distance or bench my own weight. But, dammit, I can sprint for the trains faster than most 44-year-old women, run a 5K with just five minutes' notice to lace up my trainers, carry my friends' kids when they're all tuckered out from playing and still have energy to dance to cheesy 80s hits after midnight.

    At the London Marathon, 40,000 people set off, but only two individuals will win. Does that mean it's not worth the, say, 39,950 people without a look-in of medalling taking part? Of course not, they all have their own goals that they set out to achieve, and for many of them it will just be to get over that finish line in one piece.

    "Fitness" derives from being fit for purpose, as in "survival of the fittest". Be fit for what you want to do with your life and your leisure. :flowerforyou:
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    I always believe in the path of least resistance. In terms of following MFP this means eating and drinking what I like within my calorie allowance while aiming for healthy options 80% of the time but not kicking myself when I don't. It means digging in occasionally training hard for a goal when I have an event coming up. It means taking it easy when I'm injured or, like now, recovering from illness. It means doing what I feel like for exercise when I'm not motivated to do what I'm "supposed" to do, so I've done something.

    I'm never going to manage sub-10 minute miles over distance or bench my own weight. But, dammit, I can sprint for the trains faster than most 44-year-old women, run a 5K with just five minutes' notice to lace up my trainers, carry my friends' kids when they're all tuckered out from playing and still have energy to dance to cheesy 80s hits after midnight.

    At the London Marathon, 40,000 people set off, but only two individuals will win. Does that mean it's not worth the, say, 39,950 people without a look-in of medalling taking part? Of course not, they all have their own goals that they set out to achieve, and for many of them it will just be to get over that finish line in one piece.

    "Fitness" derives from being fit for purpose, as in "survival of the fittest". Be fit for what you want to do with your life and your leisure. :flowerforyou:

    You see the thing is that my goal wouldn't be to win the London marathon, of course I would have my own personal goal and therein lies my problem. If I trained every day, pushed myself to the limit, took advice from experts, bought the best trainers, and dedicated myself, then I could maybe finish in 3 1/2 hours, so THAT would be my goal. That would mean that I gave it everything and nothing else would do.

    Let me give you a better example. If I played in a football match (my passion) or a badminton tournament, I would sooner play my very best and lose, than win even though I didn't do as well as I could. In a nutshell I have a 'do my best' at all costs over a win at all costs mentality.
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    Generalise rather than specialise. Aiming to be the best <insert something here> is tough and works certain parts of the body extremely hard whilst often neglecting other area or other facets of fitness. Generalising means that you can give some aspects a bit of a rest whilst concentrating on another discipline of facet of "fitness".

    So, rather than being a (for example) great distance runner. you could set yourself the goal to be a reasonable distance runner, who can also sprint, who can lift a reasonable amount of weight, has good flexibility and is an above average swimmer?

    I am a TERRIBLE swimmer! My wife is better than me, which is probably the reason that we never go swimming together! :}
  • Aperture_Science
    Aperture_Science Posts: 840 Member
    Generalise rather than specialise. Aiming to be the best <insert something here> is tough and works certain parts of the body extremely hard whilst often neglecting other area or other facets of fitness. Generalising means that you can give some aspects a bit of a rest whilst concentrating on another discipline of facet of "fitness".

    So, rather than being a (for example) great distance runner. you could set yourself the goal to be a reasonable distance runner, who can also sprint, who can lift a reasonable amount of weight, has good flexibility and is an above average swimmer?

    I am a TERRIBLE swimmer! My wife is better than me, which is probably the reason that we never go swimming together! :}

    So basically if you can't be good at it you don't want to take part in it?

    So, are you really worried about injury (in the P90X program you mention) or are you scared that your wouldn't be very good at it?
    I would love to do a high intensity exercise program such as Insanity or P90X and would have no problem getting motivated to 'be the best that I could be'.... Unfortunately 40 years playing sport, broken bones, sprains, strains, and dislocations have taken their toll on my body. I know that when I 'give it my all' these days - an injury is sure to follow.

    Knowing the answer to these questions may help you decide how to balance the fear of injury versus the fear of not being excellent at something?
  • There are a lot of athletes in my bikram class who joined to avoid further injury in their sporting careers; I'd recommend it to help strengthen joints etc. for HIIT out of yoga.
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    Generalise rather than specialise. Aiming to be the best <insert something here> is tough and works certain parts of the body extremely hard whilst often neglecting other area or other facets of fitness. Generalising means that you can give some aspects a bit of a rest whilst concentrating on another discipline of facet of "fitness".

    So, rather than being a (for example) great distance runner. you could set yourself the goal to be a reasonable distance runner, who can also sprint, who can lift a reasonable amount of weight, has good flexibility and is an above average swimmer?

    I am a TERRIBLE swimmer! My wife is better than me, which is probably the reason that we never go swimming together! :}

    So basically if you can't be good at it you don't want to take part in it?

    So, are you really worried about injury (in the P90X program you mention) or are you scared that your wouldn't be very good at it?
    I would love to do a high intensity exercise program such as Insanity or P90X and would have no problem getting motivated to 'be the best that I could be'.... Unfortunately 40 years playing sport, broken bones, sprains, strains, and dislocations have taken their toll on my body. I know that when I 'give it my all' these days - an injury is sure to follow.

    Knowing the answer to these questions may help you decide how to balance the fear of injury versus the fear of not being excellent at something?

    Oh no I don't swim because I don't enjoy it in any way. Sure I'm more likely to enjoy something when I'm good at it but doesn't always work that way. I'm not much good at skiing either but I LOVE it!

    Back to P90X, I want to do it because it would be pushing myself to the limit and that appeals to me. I just know that it wouldn't be good for me.
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    Sounds like you're motivated by competition. Why not join a running (other sports are available) club which holds regular handicapped races so you can test yourself against people in the same age group and ability?

    I bet Paula Radcliffe and Usain Bolt could go even faster if they weren't trying to avoid injury. I bet they've both pushed themselves too hard in the past against advice, got injured and got slapped down by their trainers. Truth is if you go out with an all-or-nothing attitude every time, you get hurt, are off your feet for weeks or months and find yourself back at square one.

    Doing it the wrong way is more likely to make you mediocre than going for broke every time.

    Being the best you can be doesn't mean pushing yourself to the limit every time you go out. It means training one thing - whether strength, endurance or speed - at that particular session. And it means taking rest, even if that's active rest, so you can benefit form those training session.

    Bear in mind the START principle when setting goals. They must be specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and timely.
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    Sounds like you're motivated by competition. Why not join a running (other sports are available) club which holds regular handicapped races so you can test yourself against people in the same age group and ability?

    I bet Paula Radcliffe and Usain Bolt could go even faster if they weren't trying to avoid injury. I bet they've both pushed themselves too hard in the past against advice, got injured and got slapped down by their trainers. Truth is if you go out with an all-or-nothing attitude every time, you get hurt, are off your feet for weeks or months and find yourself back at square one.

    Doing it the wrong way is more likely to make you mediocre than going for broke every time.

    Being the best you can be doesn't mean pushing yourself to the limit every time you go out. It means training one thing - whether strength, endurance or speed - at that particular session. And it means taking rest, even if that's active rest, so you can benefit form those training session.

    Bear in mind the START principle when setting goals. They must be specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and timely.

    No I enjoy competition but I don't think I'm motivated by it. I would run a Marathon by myself being motivated by doing my very best. At the moment I am cycling and pushing myself harder and harder, but I ride alone.

    Same goes for a high intesity workout, I would do that alone

    My problem is that without pushing myself, I would find it hard to just go out and cycle or just go to the gym and give it 50%. I fear that adding competition would mke it worse!

    You're dead right about doing things the wrong way making it worse, which I guess is why I wrote in this thread
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