VLCD

lucystrut
lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
edited December 20 in Health and Weight Loss
Started on a VLCD yesterday, ahhh all I can think about, see and smell is food, awful :-( could (almost) cry
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  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Started on a VLCD yesterday, ahhh all I can think about, see and smell is food, awful :-( could (almost) cry


    What's the rush?
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,265 Member
    Very low calorie diet or very low carb diet........regardless, neither are set up for success, good luck with it.
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
    Maybe you should try eating a reasonable amount of calories instead of starving yourself.
  • Shyloh1
    Shyloh1 Posts: 422 Member
    Started on a VLCD yesterday, ahhh all I can think about, see and smell is food, awful :-( could (almost) cry

    Why put yourself through that?
    You don't have to rush it,eat more. Just eat healthy,clean non processed foods and you'll lose the weight!

    You really shouldn't feel miserable while changing your eating habits!
  • AlphamaleBAMF
    AlphamaleBAMF Posts: 373 Member
    There is going to be food everywhere you turn, around every corner for the rest of your life. it will be on TV. In Magazines, on billboards and ads right in your face 24/7. You friends and family will eat it right in front of you. They will even offer it to you.

    All you can do is use your willpower. i used it to quit smoking less than a year ago. Now I find the smell of cigarettes repulsive and I spend the money on supplements instead.

    When you go outside you will smell food wafting through the air. That isn't even the smell of them cooking it though. It's a smell that certain restaurants pump out just to make you start salivating and want their msg laden high fat calorie dense "foods". You will have to walk past the foods every time you go shopping and fight against a lifetime of build in urges to consume.

    You should try thinking about how unhealthy some of that "food" really is, like Chicken Mcnuggets with 15% silicon, made from hormonally grown chickens and GMO products that are designed to give you cancer and sterilise you even as they make you obese and drive you ever closer to diabetes and heart disease.

    Do you want to die of cancer or a heart attack? Spend all your life watching your blood sugar and jabbing yourself with a needle to get that insulin going again? Do you want to die lucystrut?

    No? then ignore the fake plastic GMO MSG poison. and eat a healthy reasonable diet. You can do it.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    If you are already feeling this miserable, it will get worse, and you'll have a good chance of binging. Try eating what MFP told you to unless your doctor put you on this. If it is doctor prescribed, talk to your doc.
  • lucystrut
    lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
    myself and my partner are trying for a baby and are on the waiting list for IVF treatment, I have to take my BMI (37) down to be accepted for treatment, and the more I can bring it down (to a healthy level only, obviously) the more chance of successful treatment. Lost around 1.5stone in 3months on diet chef but got bored with the regime, it wasn't coming off quick enough and I started cheating and put 1/2 a stone back on. A friend recently lost 11.5stone in 10months on Lighter Life, and I thought a similar VLCD would give me the burst I need. Hers was a total abstinence programme tho, only shakes/mealpacks, I am to have 4 shakes/meal packs and a protein based snack daily on this, and every 4th week a low-carb evening meal is allowed. Yesterday and today worked out around 600cals and 20g carb each day. Its tough going though, I work above a Subway and it's driving me insane!
  • DebbsBee
    DebbsBee Posts: 13
    I wish you luck and obviously it's up to you how you want to diet but I would urge caution! I started out trying to eat as few calories as humanly possible and cracked within about three days and stuffed my face with chocolate because I was hungry, depressed and desperate for a treat. That's how I ended up on here instead, eating the number of calories this website recommends means I can have a little treat every now and again as long as I excercise to earn it and I promise it does work, the weight is coming off slower but it's staying off too. Please don't make yourself want to cry, it's not worth it! :-)
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    I have to agree, with others here. If you hate every minute you are on it and it is torturing you and all you can think about is food then you won't stick with it. Make this a long term thing and not a diet. Your body will thank you for it and you will be more likely to continue to do it as well as keep the weight off.
  • chantalb20
    chantalb20 Posts: 132
    good luck!
  • WaterBunnie
    WaterBunnie Posts: 1,371 Member
    VLCDs are only a temporary fix or a quick start. What happens when that ends and you have to be able to lose eating real foods? Far better to lose eating real foods and to get to know portion sizes and what you can eat freely as early as possible I'd say. You'll not be able to be on a VCLD once you are pregnant but will need to know how to eat healthily.
  • lucystrut
    lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
    thanks guys....I know I've not given it a chance really yet, it's only day 2, and I've been the same on any diet by day 2 - in fact I've probs cheated by day 2! Guess I just wanted a moan, I haven't told anyone I'm trying it except my partner incase I fail
  • _hi_hat3r_
    _hi_hat3r_ Posts: 423 Member
    good luck
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    I guess it depends on if its very low calories for YOU compared to how many calories you usually eat or very low calories for humans in general.

    Do some research on how many calories your body size needs to maintain your current weight, then subtract 10-15 %.

    You didnt gain the extra weight rapidly and the reverse will be true.

    Make getting to a healthy weight fun and exciting. Pay attention to how you are feeling. Imagine clean pure water flushing away the unwanted junk. Drtink a lot of it.

    Breathe deep and often.

    Get outside and walk, walk, walk,

    Enjoy yourself. You are getting healthy and it feels good.

    To do this, we need energy from food. A VLCD will not let you enjoy the journey.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    thanks guys....I know I've not given it a chance really yet, it's only day 2, and I've been the same on any diet by day 2 - in fact I've probs cheated by day 2! Guess I just wanted a moan, I haven't told anyone I'm trying it except my partner incase I fail
    I would give it a week and the hunger will probably subside. Does this one come with counselling ?
  • lucystrut
    lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
    thanks guys....I know I've not given it a chance really yet, it's only day 2, and I've been the same on any diet by day 2 - in fact I've probs cheated by day 2! Guess I just wanted a moan, I haven't told anyone I'm trying it except my partner incase I fail
    I would give it a week and the hunger will probably subside. Does this one come with counselling ?

    Thats what my friend said, she said after a week she wasnt hungry and was pinging with energy the whole time - it's one tough week tho if this is day 2, I've been told I'm going to to feel awful days 3 to 5 :-/ :-(

    yes it does I am in to see her again on Saturday and she said to phone between now and then to let her know how I'm gettin on
  • tcm118
    tcm118 Posts: 54
    You should try thinking about how unhealthy some of that "food" really is, like Chicken Mcnuggets with 15% silicon, made from hormonally grown chickens and GMO products that are designed to give you cancer and sterilise you even as they make you obese and drive you ever closer to diabetes and heart disease.

    Seriously? You think GMO products are designed to give you cancer and sterilize you? Do you have any clue what you're talking about? GMO products are designed to A. grow more food in less space, B. increase nutritional content (such as beta carotene in golden rice) in a given food, and C. in some cases increase resistance to pests thereby reducing or eliminating the need to use pesticides.
  • Snowbird73
    Snowbird73 Posts: 25
    I just started out in my quest for weight loss last month and immediately tried to follow a very low calorie diet (VLCD) program. That is, until I started using a scale that shows my percentage of lean body mass (LBM) to fat and learned that all I was losing was LBM. For me, the My Fitness Pal recommendations for caloric intake in conjunction with Fitbit recommendations for exercise are far more effective in shedding actual FAT than a VLCD. I use the Aria scale which uploads my weight data to my Fitbit account at http://www.fitbit.com.
  • StaceyL76
    StaceyL76 Posts: 711 Member
    That to me doesn’t sound sustainable. If one loses weight doing something that isn’t sustainable, the weight-loss is not likely to be sustainable either.

    Why not take a step back and look at your lifestyle and look to see what small steps you can take as a means to changing your lifestyle and thus manifesting weight-loss and better health??

    I understand the desire to want to be where you want to be and like now.. but unfortunately, that type of weight-loss doesn’t usually last.

    Good Luck!
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
    Good luck. I'm now trying to repair my awful metabolism that was ruined by being on a VLCD diet. I felt successful for having lost the weight, but now I'm left with a body that hates me and gains weight if I eat over 1200 calories (like a normal human being should).

    Once you end this diet, even if it works for the time you're on it, you will gain weight and feel terrible. It's 4 years after my VLCD weight loss and I am still not back to normal.

    Obviously I don't suggest going down this road.
  • katrwal
    katrwal Posts: 336 Member
    Hang in there. It gets better after about 3-5 days (really). I have successfully blended VLCD as the quick-start to my journey & then now using MFP to track/plan my maintenance. I do understand and appreciate those who are critical of using VLCD or any "drastic" measures, but I have faith that you are approaching this with the right attitude and dedication. Best of luck with the diet and, more importantly, the IVF!
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Hang in there. It gets better after about 3-5 days (really). I have successfully blended VLCD as the quick-start to my journey & then now using MFP to track/plan my maintenance. I do understand and appreciate those who are critical of using VLCD or any "drastic" measures, but I have faith that you are approaching this with the right attitude and dedication. Best of luck with the diet and, more importantly, the IVF!

    WHAT? she has the right attitude? she wants to lose weight on a VLCD so she can get pregnant.

    this place is just insane.
  • AlphamaleBAMF
    AlphamaleBAMF Posts: 373 Member
    Seriously? You think GMO products are designed to give you cancer and sterilize you? Do you have any clue what you're talking about?

    Yep I sure do.

    "This study was just routine," said Russian biologist Alexey V. Surov, in what could end up as the understatement of this century. Surov and his colleagues set out to discover if Monsanto's genetically modified (GM) soy, grown on 91% of US soybean fields, leads to problems in growth or reproduction. What he discovered may uproot a multi-billion dollar industry.

    After feeding hamsters for two years over three generations, those on the GM diet, and especially the group on the maximum GM soy diet, showed devastating results. By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies. They also suffered slower growth, and a high mortality rate among the pups.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html

    You ever seen that movie Children of Men? That's your grandkids.
    GMO products are designed to A. grow more food in less space, B. increase nutritional content (such as beta carotene in golden rice) in a given food, and C. in some cases increase resistance to pests thereby reducing or eliminating the need to use pesticides.

    What do you work for Monsanto or something? Lets think about this logically for a second. The bugs won't eat the stuff. If they eat it, they'll die. So they're smart enough not to. But hey it's ok to feed it to us right?

    Eating junk food is no different than smoking and buying/selling/consuming it is no more or less legal. Yeah it'll give you cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc. It'll kill you just as sure as smoking would and if you don't think it's killing people then explain why so many people are overweight or obese?
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v9/n11s/full/oby2001134a.html

    Conclusions: VLCD with active follow-up treatment seems to be one of the better treatment modalities related to long-term weight-maintenance success.
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
    I just want to ask... Have you been given the green light by a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL to put yourself on a VLCD diet? Because in some instances it makes sense (for instance, after gastric bypass surgery) but in these instances, you would be under the supervision and care of a doctor.

    If you just decided that you need to be on a VLCD diet, I would ask yourself if it's worth eating VLC for the rest of your life, because you WILL damage your metabolism this way.
  • lucystrut
    lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
    Hang in there. It gets better after about 3-5 days (really). I have successfully blended VLCD as the quick-start to my journey & then now using MFP to track/plan my maintenance. I do understand and appreciate those who are critical of using VLCD or any "drastic" measures, but I have faith that you are approaching this with the right attitude and dedication. Best of luck with the diet and, more importantly, the IVF!

    WHAT? she has the right attitude? she wants to lose weight on a VLCD so she can get pregnant.

    this place is just insane.

    yes this is exactly what I want to do, after 6 yrs of trying everything else I can think of and failing at the first hurdle, and witnessing first hand a success story, obviously I am going to be tempted to try it, if that makes me insane so be it
  • lucystrut
    lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
    Hang in there. It gets better after about 3-5 days (really). I have successfully blended VLCD as the quick-start to my journey & then now using MFP to track/plan my maintenance. I do understand and appreciate those who are critical of using VLCD or any "drastic" measures, but I have faith that you are approaching this with the right attitude and dedication. Best of luck with the diet and, more importantly, the IVF!

    thanks very much appreciate that, don't intend to stay on it forever, looking at a short period for a quick boost, then will raise calorie intake to around 1200 and just eat healthily, thats the plan anyways
  • AlphamaleBAMF
    AlphamaleBAMF Posts: 373 Member
    yes this is exactly what I want to do, after 6 yrs of trying everything else I can think of and failing at the first hurdle, and witnessing first hand a success story, obviously I am going to be tempted to try it, if that makes me insane so be it

    If you've got a BMI > 37 you really need to consider something longer term.
  • lucystrut
    lucystrut Posts: 27 Member
    I just want to ask... Have you been given the green light by a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL to put yourself on a VLCD diet? Because in some instances it makes sense (for instance, after gastric bypass surgery) but in these instances, you would be under the supervision and care of a doctor.

    If you just decided that you need to be on a VLCD diet, I would ask yourself if it's worth eating VLC for the rest of your life, because you WILL damage your metabolism this way.

    I haven't told my doctor I'm starting this, but I did discuss it previously with a doctor who said that provided I was otherwise healthy and did it for no longer than 3 weeks at a time. I filled in and signed forms that are to go to my doctor notifying them that I've started it
  • GymAnJuice
    GymAnJuice Posts: 512 Member
    i wish you the best of luck but be warned, they're not highly recommended - i know, l lost 7 stone on lighterlife, felt amazing but put it all back on...and sadly when i started maintenance i had more of a problem with food than i did before, but everyone is different, thats just my experience.
    i also found after day 4 i wasn't hungry because my body went into ketosis. i did lose a lot of hair however and it didn't grow back even though i was told more than once it would. don't want to scare you, i wish i knew all the information on it before i started, if i'd known what i know now i would of ran a mile.
    have you tried eating clean and exercising, i promise you you'll feel 100% better than you will on a VLCD
    whatever your future holds, whatever you decide to do, i wish you the best of luck :flowerforyou:
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