Setup Polar HRM for more accurate calorie burn for known BMR

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  • HappilyLifts
    HappilyLifts Posts: 429 Member
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    woah! Hit a new Maximum heart rate this weekend. Was 193 but I got a 219! I was exercising in my living room and it was a hotter day than we typically get here in the UK. It was only a 23 minute session to one of The Firm's DVDs although it was hard work with some plyometrics which always make my heart pound in my head :laugh:

    I'm 43, so I'm quite surprised it could get that high!
    Now, do I reset my max HR to 224 on my Polar, or do you think 219 could be a fluke?

    If that's what the HRM read as peak in the post-workout stats, I'd say fluke.
    If you saw it go up to that and hit that and slowly come back down, I'd trust it.

    Ah, the Firm, I remember my mom getting those 25 yrs ago, pretty intense at that time and I'd rather have done jogging or weights for something easier.
    I don't recall looking at my HRM midworkout and seeing it, too busy trying to keep up with the moves :laugh: I'll disregard it and see if it happens again.
    Yep, the Firm DVDs are still tough, some things never change! I had no idea they've been around that long. I like variety, in for the long haul so I can't be getting bored of working out this early in the game!
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    Bumping to put in my topics and it was 24 pages in and I don't want to have to go through *that* again!
  • emshair
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    To the last few bumps.

    Here is a spreadsheet to do it easier.

    HRM tab, upper section.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amt7QBR9-c6MdGVTbGswLUUzUHNVVUlNSW9wZWloeUE
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  • tamraj
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    Ditto the bump.
  • TXHunny84
    TXHunny84 Posts: 503 Member
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    QUESTIONS!!::

    Ok I have questions on your calorie burns and HRM numbers......I've often thought my HRM cal burns were off and were over estimated. Especially when I am just walking or jogging. My HRM would say a 3mph walk was like 550 cal burn in 60 minutes and MFP would say like 220 cals for a 3mph walk for 60 minutes. Way different numbers right!?.... Your info caught my attention so I plugged in all my info and it said my covert BF% was 22.2% and my new age was 13!!! Well that's a compliment I would LOVE to keep! BUT....first off....I have biggest loser scale and it says my BF% is actually 28.6%..... and so since I want to be accurate I put in that number too just to see what I would get and my BMR dropped....from 1593(as a 13yr old) to 1492(The day Columbus sailed the ocean blue) lol. So.....to get my age to match 1492 I had to change it to 34.5 years old.....
    So should I set my HRM so think I am 13 or 34?

    Plus: I have a fast resting heart rate at 90 bpm........if I input that I am older/younger won't that throw my results off more?.... I already felt that my calorie burns were over estimated due to my fast resting heart rate.

    Plus: I have a slow thyroid....

    *Plus:... I have been netting my calories at 1350 for the last few months..... I recently was going to change my cal goal to 1200 because I wasn't losing much weight.... According to what you said I'd have to put in my HRM that I am 95.....and well my HRM won't let me go that far back.....SAD TRUTH hahaha and because of my already fast resting heart rate wont that make it seem like I (as great-grandma) have some sky rocketing calorie burns!?....

    Thank you for helping! This has been so interesting and I had made other posts before on the accuracy or lack of accuracy on my Polar FT4 and never could get an answer other than... "are you wearing it right? do you wash it daily? do you have it set to you info?" So thank you for posting this info sorry I have so many questions....
  • morkiemama
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    Bump!
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    chrissilini Posts: 77 Member
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    Bumpity boo
  • microburst20
    microburst20 Posts: 130
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    thanks
  • westmitten
    westmitten Posts: 27 Member
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    SO glad I stumbled upon this topic... amazingly helpful! Thank you!
  • westmitten
    westmitten Posts: 27 Member
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    Your info caught my attention so I plugged in all my info and it said my covert BF% was 22.2% and my new age was 13!!! Well that's a compliment I would LOVE to keep! BUT....first off....I have biggest loser scale and it says my BF% is actually 28.6%..... and so since I want to be accurate I put in that number too just to see what I would get and my BMR dropped....from 1593(as a 13yr old) to 1492(The day Columbus sailed the ocean blue) lol. So.....to get my age to match 1492 I had to change it to 34.5 years old.....
    So should I set my HRM so think I am 13 or 34?

    Personally, I would use the BF% read from your Biggest Loser scale and use the age of 35 (rounding up is better than down).
  • glittersoul
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    This makes me 109 years old :laugh:
  • ajoy1332
    ajoy1332 Posts: 55 Member
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    QUESTIONS!!::

    Ok I have questions on your calorie burns and HRM numbers......I've often thought my HRM cal burns were off and were over estimated. Especially when I am just walking or jogging. My HRM would say a 3mph walk was like 550 cal burn in 60 minutes and MFP would say like 220 cals for a 3mph walk for 60 minutes. Way different numbers right!?.... Your info caught my attention so I plugged in all my info and it said my covert BF% was 22.2% and my new age was 13!!! Well that's a compliment I would LOVE to keep! BUT....first off....I have biggest loser scale and it says my BF% is actually 28.6%..... and so since I want to be accurate I put in that number too just to see what I would get and my BMR dropped....from 1593(as a 13yr old) to 1492(The day Columbus sailed the ocean blue) lol. So.....to get my age to match 1492 I had to change it to 34.5 years old.....
    So should I set my HRM so think I am 13 or 34?

    Plus: I have a fast resting heart rate at 90 bpm........if I input that I am older/younger won't that throw my results off more?.... I already felt that my calorie burns were over estimated due to my fast resting heart rate.

    Plus: I have a slow thyroid....

    *Plus:... I have been netting my calories at 1350 for the last few months..... I recently was going to change my cal goal to 1200 because I wasn't losing much weight.... According to what you said I'd have to put in my HRM that I am 95.....and well my HRM won't let me go that far back.....SAD TRUTH hahaha and because of my already fast resting heart rate wont that make it seem like I (as great-grandma) have some sky rocketing calorie burns!?....

    Thank you for helping! This has been so interesting and I had made other posts before on the accuracy or lack of accuracy on my Polar FT4 and never could get an answer other than... "are you wearing it right? do you wash it daily? do you have it set to you info?" So thank you for posting this info sorry I have so many questions....

    First, walking is great for using calorie calculator, because treadmill walking (running too actually) is most tested activity.
    So use this site and see what it says. Better than MFP, which is based on same database many sites use.
    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/WalkRunMETs.html

    Regarding BMR estimate based on BF%, I'd say avg those two. Scale is going to be around 6% accuracy if you are doing everything best it should be done (hydration, time, ect) and that is rare, and calc is 5% - so they do overlap actually.

    I'd use that age, which is somewhere in-between - which is great, means you have better LBM than expected for your age/height/weight.

    The HRM doesn't use resting HR in calc's, and besides, it's the maxHR that matters more than RHR. And indeed in your case, your MHR may be more than HRM is calculating (220-age).

    So say for instance, you walked that 3mph, and HR was as 160 avg, and your MHR really was 175, that means that is a great effort for you. But if your MHR was really 200, not nearly as much.

    If that 160 is hit because of being out of shape, as opposed to really just pushing it hard, difference too.

    So as the first post mentions, MHR is bigger factor and should be tested too.

    Might see what changes if you use height in this spreadsheet. HRM tab.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amt7QBR9-c6MdGVTbGswLUUzUHNVVUlNSW9wZWloeUE

    Slow thyroid could effect things, but that does sound like a high cal burn estimate.

    What does the other site calc say for your stats doing 3mph? And what was your AHR for that 3mph effort? And what incline? 20% sounds about right actually.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    This makes me 109 years old :laugh:

    Ahh, that change quickly as you keep improving then. You'll find yourself getting younger all the time!
  • 4leggedmom
    4leggedmom Posts: 43 Member
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    bump for later reading
  • TXHunny84
    TXHunny84 Posts: 503 Member
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    Thank you for the help. I'll change my HRM to 35 years and see what my calorie burns look like. :)

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