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  • Knlash29
    Knlash29 Posts: 14
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    What Drs believed to be true years ago is being proven inaccurate and new research is always showing advancements...I found after going to my Dr, then a nutritionist, then researching that info, that there are a lot of beliefs in dieting that are no longer true but people are really stuck in the past and are having a hard time moving on...10 years from now this wont be the case as with any new medical advancement. I would talk to a highly recommended nutritionist in your area and then follow that advice...but eating below the 1200 cal intake may not be bad advice but since everyone is different there isnt any way for anyone on these boards to tell you what they think, especially if they arent Drs in the first place....dont fire your Dr...since they are usually right, but taking pills to lose the weight will only mean the weight will come back when you are done if your not very careful so I think your best bet s to see a nutrisionist. Have you had your Thyroid checked...it is a leading cause to lack o weight loss or struggle there in as well, and its a simple blood test. :)
  • luv1another
    luv1another Posts: 13
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    thanks everyone...
    yes I had my thyroid checked along with other stuff before the Dr put me on duromine...the level of thyroid was slightly high but the dr said as long as I am feeling fine to stay at that level and we will do another check in 6 months.

    maybe a nutritionist is the way to go...not sure if there is one in town though but I will find out
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    do you mean 700 calories in total for the week for your C25K sessions, rather than per session.

    Most people burn around 100 calories per mile, so 700 seems ok for all 3 sessions assuming you did just over 2 miles aech session, but is way too high for one single session.
  • kaned_ferret
    kaned_ferret Posts: 618 Member
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    Another vote here for not listening to the treadmill on calories burned. During a 45 minute c25k session I would burn around 400 according to my hrm. This is doubling that estimate for you and could be a major factor. I would try keeping your calorie goal the same for now, but don't eat back the exercise calories, or maybe only add 1-200 extra when you work out, to make sure you're not in fact eating too much.

    I would also consider getting a second opinion on the nutrition front. Because you have hypothyroidism I think it's even more important to make sure you've got everything in the right balance. Unfortunately, that, coupled with eeeevil depo, isn't going to help. Are you still on the depo? This is one thing that you *could* change - I lost 1 1/2 stones when I came off the depo after 7 years on it. Never again lol!

    Also, peeps here can give you some pointers on what you're eating if you open your diary up - we could perhaps help you to make adjustments in your food choices that would help :flowerforyou:
  • luv1another
    luv1another Posts: 13
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    I am using an iphone app called pedometer to measure calories burned for just the run part on the treadmill I am registering around 5kms or just over with the walking. warm up and cool down I don't add that I turn the pedometer on when I start to run and turn off when the run part is over...the last run was 5.2kms and I burned 657 cals according to this. my last walk was 3.3 kms outside and burned 289 calories.

    Breakfast
    a sachet of porridge around 150 calories depending on the brand
    lactose free skim milk 250ml 90 calories
    1 tbsp personalised protein powder by Herbalife 20 calories
    and 1 serve of Herbalife shake mix added to porridge which is 100 calories
    total for breakfast = 360 calories
    Saturdays we have 1 homemade pancake usually half quinoa flour half normal flour which is less than 100 calories

    Snack
    Herbalife protein bar 134 calories, usually(Can vary depending on mood)

    Lunch
    250ml lactose free skim milk 90 calories
    Herbalife shake mix 100 calories
    personalised protein powder 20 calories
    total 210 calories

    Snack
    ranges from 2 boiled eggs, a handful of unsalted roasted almonds, pistachio's, cranberries a protein bar depending on my mood and whats available but usually under 200 calories and more often under 100 calories

    Dinner
    varies a lot but something like meat and vegies, chicken and Quinoa salad, slow cooker, spagetti bolgognese, stirfry with chicken or other meat, sushi
    it also varies in calories.


    sometimes we will have air popped popcorn with a little salt or a piece of fruit or some nuts an hour or two after dinner

    weekends we do have a couple drinks...I do log these

    also Mon, Wednesday and Friday I burn around 700 calories jogging on the treadmill (according to pedometer) (this was less a few weeks ago as we have been working up to jogging)

    Tuesdays I do half an hour walking on the treadmill or occasionally depending on how my heels are (I have heel spurs) I may not do anything

    Thursdays we walk to the video shop which is about 294 calories burned

    Saturdays we also sometimes walk to the video shop again its about 3kms so around 290 calories
  • jj3120
    jj3120 Posts: 358
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    I am 163cm and currently 103 Kilo's I started out at 113.2. If I were you I would go to this web page


    http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/mbf/

    I would then go to this web page

    http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr/

    I would eat what the chart at the very bottom of the page tells you to.

    It is what I have been doing and I consistently lose weight. I will lose for 3 weeks then I not for a week. That is what has been happening for the past month or so.

    Currently I am allowed 2151 calories a day. As I lose that amount will go down. You can look for the group eat more to weigh less if you want as well.

    I would never go that low on calories personally. I don't think I would be very pleasant to live with if I did.

    I am not losing fast but I am losing. I am trying to retrain myself and the way I look at food. SO honestly I don't care if it take me 2 years to hit my goal. At least at the end of the road I will have taught myself the proper way to eat for my body,

    Jackie

    ^^this!!!^^ I am also losing slow and steadily this way.

    Eating this way means your exercise is already accounted for so not so important to know your burn - although I do wear a hrm & eat back if I do extra or have a high burn.

    I also recommend checking out the eat more to weigh less group : )
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
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    Your weight loss has slowed because of the way that your body has responded to eating too few calories. To lose weight, your body has to be working full throttle. On days that you do not work out, you are not at much of a deficit. On days that you are working out, you are at a severe deficit. I am no doctor, but I do know that the body will try to survive. One way is to slow down the use of its "fuel".

    Also, unless your doctor is a nutritionist, he probably doesn't know what he is talking about. My 7 yr old son eats more than 800 calories a day for maintenance.

    JSP2374's post is on the money.



    Bump! I would either go get a 2nd opinion or go see a nutritionist or both. Those cal's seem WAY too low. Also don't forget any muscle you might be gaining with strength training. And remember slower progress is better for your body although we love to see fast results :smile:

    My 2 year old son needs more than 800 calories a day!
  • ball858
    ball858 Posts: 395 Member
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    WHY do people think that 700+ calories for a PT session is too high???

    I easily burn 600+ cal on sessions (using a HRM, weight 190 lb) - just because YOU don't burn that much it does not mean that others dont!

    I did a 5k race today in 33 min and burnt 645 cal because i pushed myself and my heart rate to 160-170 the whole way round
  • sreeves1429
    sreeves1429 Posts: 23 Member
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    I had the same question for my doctor when I started using MFP. My doctor also recommended 800-1000 calories for weight loss. He said that essentially, if you eat the extra calories you earn from the exercise all you are doing is maintaining the weight when the goal is to lose it. In order tro lose the weight safely 800-1000 is the optimal daily consumption. MFP will always say you are consuming too few calories even if you only come in 1 calorie under their calculated projections so I would not worry too much about that. As someone else posted, your body has fat stores that it will work off of, so starvation mode at this point is not a factor. I know of others that give themselves a "cheat day" during the week, usually Saturday or Sunday an hat seems to help keep them on track. You also need to keep in mind that from time to time your body will hit a plateau and the weight loss will stagnate for a period of time. It usually lasts no more than two weeks for me, as my body accustoms itself to the new weight and dimensions. Don't get discouraged and just keep doing what you are doing and the weight will come off at a safe pace.
    When I started my journey a year ago, I weighed in at 289 lbs, I am now currently 152 lbs. Good luck on your journey!!!
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,143 Member
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    I had the same question for my doctor when I started using MFP. My doctor also recommended 800-1000 calories for weight loss. He said that essentially, if you eat the extra calories you earn from the exercise all you are doing is maintaining the weight when the goal is to lose it. In order tro lose the weight safely 800-1000 is the optimal daily consumption. MFP will always say you are consuming too few calories even if you only come in 1 calorie under their calculated projections so I would not worry too much about that. As someone else posted, your body has fat stores that it will work off of, so starvation mode at this point is not a factor. I know of others that give themselves a "cheat day" during the week, usually Saturday or Sunday an hat seems to help keep them on track. You also need to keep in mind that from time to time your body will hit a plateau and the weight loss will stagnate for a period of time. It usually lasts no more than two weeks for me, as my body accustoms itself to the new weight and dimensions. Don't get discouraged and just keep doing what you are doing and the weight will come off at a safe pace.

    ^^^^This.....glad to know there is someone else out there who feels the way I do....and whose body works the way mine does. :)
  • autumnk921
    autumnk921 Posts: 1,376 Member
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    I sent you a VERY long PM....Just a heads up before you open it...lol :)
  • tamsinwhitfield
    tamsinwhitfield Posts: 135 Member
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    Far too many people here are far too quick to dismiss doctors - at the end of the day, they're qualified to dispense medical advice, and 99.9% of posters here are not. If you have a large amount of fat to lose, you're not going to go into "starvation mode" (which is possibly the most mis and over-used phrase here) - the reason you store fat at all is so it can be used to fuel your body when food isn't available in the quantities needed to do this. And as far as I'm aware, VLCDs are extremely common recommendations in the medical profession when dealing with dangerously overweight individuals.

    Listen to your doctor - if in doubt, consult another doctor. But don't take the diet advice of a bunch of randoms on the Internet over a qualified professional.
  • myraknits
    myraknits Posts: 81 Member
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    I see it this way. and JMHO BUT... I easily lose weight on a restriction of 1000 cals or less. I can lose weight quickly and feel great doing it. No loss of energy..if anything I feel even more energy. That's probably from restricting certain foods like sugar and refined carbs.
    But losing weight isn't the problem. The real problem comes in when I transition to maintenance. By restricting my calories, I reset the point where my body comfortably functions. When I add additional calories the weight returns. It doesn't happen overnight but eventually it all returns and sometimes more. I even have that honeymoon period of thinking I can't gain weight anymore right after a loss but the additional calories do make a difference. I think there's a very good reason the studies show 1200 calories as a minimum. For me, 1200 is a good days worth of food and something I can easily maintain for the long haul. No, the weight doesn't come off as quickly but I'm sick of seeing it return and would like to be done with the yo-yoing once and for all.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    When I add additional calories the weight returns.
    How many do you add ?
  • nwg74
    nwg74 Posts: 360 Member
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    Just my opinion.

    I was a lot heavier at 373 pounds and found success at 1800-2000 calories a day of healthy food and didn't eat exercise calories back. It is worth trying for a couple of weeks. I am now 205 and the weight is still coming off and have gone down to 1500.
  • TyFit08
    TyFit08 Posts: 799 Member
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    Far too many people here are far too quick to dismiss doctors - at the end of the day, they're qualified to dispense medical advice, and 99.9% of posters here are not. If you have a large amount of fat to lose, you're not going to go into "starvation mode" (which is possibly the most mis and over-used phrase here) - the reason you store fat at all is so it can be used to fuel your body when food isn't available in the quantities needed to do this. And as far as I'm aware, VLCDs are extremely common recommendations in the medical profession when dealing with dangerously overweight individuals.

    Listen to your doctor - if in doubt, consult another doctor. But don't take the diet advice of a bunch of randoms on the Internet over a qualified professional.


    Definitely agree with this. Everyone's body is different, so the 1200 calorie rule does not apply to everyone. You have overweight and have thyroid issues, your doctor is probably focused on getting the weight off quicker, hence the low calorie diet. Many doctors recommend this kind of diet in this situation. Websites like this are great for support and information, but remember that it is made for a generalized population, not necessarily specifically to you or your needs. BTW, don't eat your exercise calories while you are losing, the deficit helps you lose.
  • M_lifts
    M_lifts Posts: 2,224 Member
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    Far too many people here are far too quick to dismiss doctors - at the end of the day, they're qualified to dispense medical advice, and 99.9% of posters here are not. If you have a large amount of fat to lose, you're not going to go into "starvation mode" (which is possibly the most mis and over-used phrase here) - the reason you store fat at all is so it can be used to fuel your body when food isn't available in the quantities needed to do this. And as far as I'm aware, VLCDs are extremely common recommendations in the medical profession when dealing with dangerously overweight individuals.

    Listen to your doctor - if in doubt, consult another doctor. But don't take the diet advice of a bunch of randoms on the Internet over a qualified professional.

    that is because its true. Do you know how little training drs get in the form of nutrition and weightloss? I am a nurse practitioner and have to 'educate' quite a few drs on how little they know. They get a general training in all aspects and then they specialise in whatever field they decide to go ie cardiology, respiratory, endocrinology. We live in times where people are well educated and so advice is not necessarily 'random'!

    To the OP: the fit to fat radio calculator is great. Never eat below your BMR, you are looking for trouble that way. you want to lose weight and keep it off. Do it by developing healthy habits and exercising. Dont believe your app, try and log it via the mfp database if you can, the calories are estimated but should give you a rough idea of how much you burn. Unless you have a heart rate monitor where you can get a more accurate burn. good luck and definitely eat more than 800 cals!
  • nsblue
    nsblue Posts: 331 Member
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    my doc/surgeon put me on 600-100 cal during weight loss... took the weight off n hey... starvation pfffft.... i did do fine n am doing fine...listen to your doc ;)
  • ball858
    ball858 Posts: 395 Member
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    To the OP: the fit to fat radio calculator is great. Never eat below your BMR, you are looking for trouble that way. you want to lose weight and keep it off. Do it by developing healthy habits and exercising. Dont believe your app, try and log it via the mfp database if you can, the calories are estimated but should give you a rough idea of how much you burn. Unless you have a heart rate monitor where you can get a more accurate burn. good luck and definitely eat more than 800 cals!
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    ^^^ This ^^^
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    I am using an iphone app called pedometer to measure calories burned for just the run part on the treadmill I am registering around 5kms or just over with the walking. warm up and cool down I don't add that I turn the pedometer on when I start to run and turn off when the run part is over...the last run was 5.2kms and I burned 657 cals according to this. my last walk was 3.3 kms outside and burned 289 calories.

    I think that pedometer is way off. 5k is only 3.2 miles, there is no way you burn 200 calories per mile.

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