Parents: School Lunches
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I have 3 kids...two in college and one going to hs. They have all said that you can eat healthy in school if you choose to...meaning teach your kids to be healthy eaters and pick the right things. I pack a lunch for the youngest..or she does since she is has celiacs (gluten free diet). Her lunch is cold...but I don't think it is a big deal. One meal out of the day is somewhat out of your control. You can control breakfast and dinner etc. I say don't sweat the small stuff...wait until your kids get to hs and their friends get their # to use to buy food....and they charge food to that kid lol...In the end, it's all about the whole days foods and activites that shape your kid..0
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I rarely remember eating school lunch, I was always picky. My parents did something similar, we could have one "hot " lunch a week if we wanted it and a milk to go with our bag lunch. I ate PB&J and pretzels for probably 4 years straight. :laugh: Even in high school I brought my lunch. I usually packed a bagel with peanut butter and pretzels because that was the only thing the would keep me full from lunch time through the end of dance team practice at 430 or 5 pm. if I wanted to buy a lunch I would bring my own money and get one of those giant pretzels with cheese sauce. :noway: Looking back it was a wonder I didn't weigh 1,000 lbs but then again I was dancing 18 hours a week. lol0
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I found an interesting homemade alternative to lunchables here that are healthier and cheaper:
http://www.squawkfox.com/2011/09/09/lunchables/
Gave me some neat ideas!
This is great. My daughter is 10 now so getting a little bit old for some of the ideas but these look really cute. BTW she doesn't like crackers w seeds though.... *sigh*0 -
I don’t allow my children to eat school lunches either. I find it odd that your school would let her do that for a month. My daughter’s teacher knows why I don’t allow them to have school lunch and they make sure to call me if she forgets her lunch so I can bring her something if I am able. We have to fill out a form at school to preorder our children’s lunches and sign at the bottom if they have hot lunch. If we don’t get those forms filled out and signed then the children must call before they get a lunch. I guess this is the schools way of helping parents control what they eat. I have seen their lunches and it also brings the lunch price down. I do not let them eat the lunch because it is pre- packaged trash with very little nutritional value. I am 100% positive that it contributes to childhood obesity.
On a recent visit to my daughter’s school I made sure I said to my daughter in front of everyone very loud that the hot lunches that the other kids were eating looked gross. They all thought it was funny because the kids all think it is gross too. The girl that had the hot lunch had brought her own healthy lunch to school to eat despite the hot lunch her mom had already ordered. When I asked her mom why she got two lunches her mother told me that she is eligible for free lunch but won’t eat it so still brings and packs her own lunch. The mother seemed irritated about the fact that her daughter did that but I told her good for her daughter for wanting to eat something healthy.
I have found ways to pack hot lunch too but it does not include very many things. I will heat up the soup and put it in a really good thermos and the kids tell me it is still hot when lunch time comes. Make sure the thermos is plastic and one that can take a beating because otherwise it will break in their bag. I am not sure if this works with other hot meals.0 -
I'm so glad I live in Australia sometimes. Our kids take their own lunch, it's usually:
- sandwich
-crackers (sometimes w cheese)
-string cheese
-fruit
This includes her morning snack. The kids have a five minute break at about 10 am for "fruit snack" time.
Once a fortnight she is allowed a "lunch order" which is a paid lunch provided through the school by a local shop. This may be something like hot chips, meat pie or nuggets (occasionally), but is just as likely to be a sushi hand roll, toasted sandwich or fried rice. I think this is pretty typical here.0 -
Hello everyone! I'm a parent of an elementary school child and a middle schooler. Interestingly enough I was working in the school cafeteria as a lunch lady . I learned so much about the politics involved with our school lunch programs. It's very discouraging. The quality of the lunches is determined by state guidelines. Most likely the school contracts out their lunch programs to the lowest bidder every five years or so. And I mean the lowest bidder.
I learned that our program last year was based on a specific calorie goal. The children selected minimal of two of the following;
A protein, a whole grain or a fruit/vegetable. Sounds reasonable right. It actually worked like this. We would prepare a salad bar with fresh salad, individual servings of fruit, carrots, celery, cucumber, and broccoli. Would the kids go near the salad bar -no. I bribed them, those that made a nice salad I would give them croutons. If I put the croutons out on the salad bar, kids would fill their plates with 1-6 cups of croutons.
Now the terrible part is that with the state guidelines, the most cost effective items THAT Kids WILL eat are as follows; hamburger, cheeseburger, chicken nuggets, pizza, spaghetti of some sort, sub sandwiches, Bosco sticks (bread with mozzarella inside), French toast sticks, bagels with cream cheese, sub sandwiches and occasionally fish sticks (which most kids trashed).
Remember, this is cost effective. We have many children that are on a free lunch program, so our taxes are paying for thousands of kids to just get one meal in their belly. And the majority of kids will not eat what is healthy, because it doesn't taste as good. Therefore, they won't eat their lunch at all and then parents call me to complain.
I've seen it from both sides. I pack my kids lunch. Occasionally I'd let them buy. I have more control when I pack their lunches.
In regards to your son and the milk situation. I dealt with that all the time. We have two of us lunch ladies and 200-250 kids to serve. We constantly had kids "dine and dash". Not realizing that they had to pay for milk or their food. We have all our kids accounts on line. I'd tell the parents to check it out. Regularly, we had children whose parents packed them lunch, but the kids wanted pizza instead. The kids ditch their lunch and buy it instead. I get the angry phone call. I usually know the kids well so the next day I'd always ask the kid if their mom packed them a lunch. If they say yes I ask them '"shouldn't you eat what your mom packed"..they reply "but I don't like it.". I try to reason with them, but I can't say no to the child. If they are in my line, my job was to make sure they get something to eat. We had quite a few kids flagged because of these issues. I usually tried to work with the parents individually. Most of the time it worked nicely and parents, kids, we're happy. But some parents :huh: .
In this economy, it's going to get worse. So please pack your child's lunch, and remember that there are nice lunch ladies out there.:flowerforyou:0 -
I am a lunchlady from a very small town and i have seen it all. When i started working in the food service we had french fries, onion rings, potatoe wedges with liquid chees, chips and little debbie cakes the kids could buy ala cart. (this was highschool) A few years back, oh about 5, we took out all the fryers, little debbie cakes and no more chips unless they are the baked. Our menu has changed to more, much more fresh, home grown, well state side, fruit and veggies. We offer fresh salads, a subway type wrap line, yogurt parfait and vegitarian choices each and every day. Yes we do still offer pizza, which i hand make, not the type out of the freezer. We use low fat cheeses and most of the meals are chicken. We have also gone whole wheat. I make fresh bread each day. When the changes came we were like oh no the kids will not eat this, and boy did we hear it from the older kids. I work at the middle school now and started the year, this was 3 years ago total change over, and i did not have one negitive from any of the kids. While we do still offer chips, which are baked, and a chocolat chip cooke, which is low fat whole grain on the ala cart we try to limit how much the kids can buy. Now this is the kitchen i work in. We have also let our parents know that it is up to them if they do not want their children to buy alot of extras. The parents can go into their childrens lunch accounts and block certain foods or put a spending limit on their accounts. With all this said i have visited other schools and seen what was offered and what their kids were buying. It blew my mind. As for the over charging someone needs to have a huge talk with the people that are cashing out the kids. I really dont understand why they would do that. Not that i don't mess up now and then but wow charging something that the kids dont' get nope not right. oh and just one more thing if you are unhappy with the lunches that your school offers please go talk to your administration. They are the ones that can approve, or disapprove a new food system.0
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I am in Australia in a small regional town and so we don't have the issue of school provided meals. Our Primary school doesn't even have a canteen! Once a term the Parents & Friends team will have a 'food day' fundraiser which usually alternates between pizza, fancy fruit, hot dogs, pies or something similar. But this is one day out of about 50! There is also a 'breakfast club' which is cost free before school one day a week. They have toast with Vegemite, jam, nutella or cornflakes, weetbix and drinks are milk, milk & milo, water or juice
Thus it is packed lunches every day for us. My boys have a number of other students in their classes with food allergies & intolerances so nuts, seeds, eggs & fish are out. But the staple is one sandwich with vegemite & cheese or sliced meat & cheese. 2 peices of fruit a day - apples, pears, grapes, mandarines, bananas, watermelon, strawberries - whatever is in season! And then the treat which is mostly a small container of biscuits. Usually I try for homemade like anzacs, yo-yos but also peices of slice or a cake slice or muffin. It maybe a treat still but I feel better for going homemade!
The kids are encouraged to bring water with them and are allowed to have them at their desks so they may sip whenever they are thirsty. During the mid-morning between lessons they have a fruit time which is 10-15mins where all the students sit for some show & tell while eating a peice of fruit. Lunchtime is 10mins for sitting, eating & hopefully digesting properly then 40mins for playing!
Our school has also recently gone to waste-free so any rubbish (excepting compostable e.g. apple cores, banana skins etc.) is sent home... Not necessarily for me but this has changed the way some parents have packed lunches.0 -
I am a Speech Pathologist and work with severely impaired high school students. Our lunches are ok, not great. There are a lot of options, including a salad bar, but most of my students eat chicken patties and nachos 4/5 days. That said, many of my students bring lunches from home that make me gag. Constantly eating sugar, preservative, fat filled microwavable lunches that are likely only 50% food. I admire your desire to pack your kids healthy lunches and teach them the importance of a well balanced diet (including treats once in awhile). I think parent education is crucial, especially with parents of special needs children. Trying to please your child will not always be in their best interest in the future.
Sorry that didn't answer your question. I think cold lunches are totally fine. Bring your kid to the grocery store and let him/her pick out some snacks and treats, but also expose them to new flavors every so often. You're doing the right thing so far!0 -
Cafeteria food is vile. My niece refused to eat school lunches after a classmate at her table found a roach in his pizza. Still alive.
Check out momables.com for healthy lunch and snack ideas that your kid will actuakky want.0 -
Our government changed the rules and schools here are now forced to serve healthier food. They were forced to get rid of their fryers and aren't even allowed to see regular pizza. They now serve a whole wheat veggie pizza. There are no hamburgers, hot dogs or nachos. Even the slushie machines have been switched into Crystal Light slushies or something like that.
And while it is a good idea to own up and take responsibility, what we are seeing now is kids eating nothing at all because they won't eat the healthier foods.
I am thinking something is better than nothing...is there no happy medium? Why not offer both types of food (while scaling back on the super high unhealthy foods) and offer the kids a choice. Then educating them to make healthier choice.
I pack my kids lunches and have decided not to partake in the hot lunches offered by the school mainly because my kids won't eat them and they were going hungry.
I make sure to keep the junk out of their lunches (for the most part) and try to make sure they are getting enough healthy food whenever they can.
(On a side note: I do not eat veggies, never have, never will and I think I turned out OK)0 -
My mother packed our lunches every morning or the night before and I plan on doing that with my kid. School lunches were mostly terrible when I was in school. There were days when I wanted it like french toast sticks or nachos, but other than that, I always remember thinking how could my classmates even stomach that crap.
Nowadays it's much easier to pack something good. I don't think thermal lunchboxes were around back then. I remember having a brown bag for the longest time until I got a Sailor Moon lunch box. ^_^
Edit: Plus, one of my favorite school lunch memories was always opening my bag/lunch box and finding a post it sticker from my mom with "I love you." or "Have a great day!" or "You're awesome!" notes.0 -
In the schools where I grew up, they don't serve you lunches. You HAVE to pack. I packed my own, usually two or three slices of dark bread with cheese, ham, cucumber or tomatoe.
A cold lunch doesn't do you any harm at all. It's good. It fills you up. Add an apple and a waterbottle and you're set. Nomnom0 -
this whole thing freaks me out to think about because my 4 year old is going to start preschool in the fall and the school she is going to doesn't allow bagged lunches to be brought is ( some bs about well what if someone else has a food allergy and they eat your kids food...idk)
my kid is a pretty good eater for the most part but she likes foods like steamed broccoli, baked chicken nuggets, peanut butter sandwiches, pizza with NO SAUCE! lol and so on but its all home made food...she wont eat junk like mcdonalds etc (thank god) because she says its " busgusting " so i have no idea what the hell im going to do to keep her from half starving to death all day because she refuses to eat slop.0 -
I just finished my long, **** 13 years of public school and the lunches have been terrible the whole time. They introduced a salad bar my senior year but even then, kids are getting salads claiming they are healthy yet have packed them with croutons and four of those containers of ranch. FOUR. Our school's food service is called 'Healthy Choice Meals' but I'll tell you what, they aren't healthy at all. Chicken nuggets, grade D beef cheeseburgers, only chocolate milk and/or a small bagged juice. You wanted to have a nice bottle of water with your lunch? Extra $.75. Any healthy food they had, with the exception of the salad if done properly, costs more and where I'm from, the majority of students just get free lunch so if they want these extra things such as a water or some extra fruit, it will cost them money that they don't have. If you've ever seen Supersize Me, he touches on how unhealthy school lunches are. The one place he showed with healthy lunch choices was a center for troubled teens. And everyone questions how kids are becoming so overweight. Starts in school.0
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Those of you going into the education career, here is a link for a teacher at my school who is definitely a genius when it comes to this and once I finish college and get a job at a school I plan to do the same thing. He promotes healthy eating in such a simple way. Getting kids to actually read labels so they can see what is going into their bodies. I didn't even have him as a teacher but he sure made a good impression on me.
http://healthystate.org/2012/02/ryan-haczynski-voted-tampa-bays-healthiest-person/0 -
Want more disturbing? I work at a title one school...meaning my students are poor. Most are on free lunches. Most will get their free lunch every day and free breakfast every day. Most will find .50 or more for chips and a powerade or some crap like that. Most will then not touch the lunch given to them and throw it away, totally uneaten.
Now the lunches are unhealthy Standard American Diet. Brown, gray, white foods. That's it. No real green. They started substituting sweet potato fries for the regular and they wouldn't eat them. They give them a tiny side salad (less than a 1/4 cup of iceburg lettuce is a salad to them) and it always gets tossed.
What gets eaten?
Calzones
Chicken Nuggets or fingers
sometimes the hamburgers (no veggies)
I hate being on lunch duty because I have to smell the nasty food and watch "poor needy" kids just throw it away when there are millions of truly starving people who would literally eat anything we give them.0 -
Want more disturbing? I work at a title one school...meaning my students are poor. Most are on free lunches. Most will get their free lunch every day and free breakfast every day. Most will find .50 or more for chips and a powerade or some crap like that. Most will then not touch the lunch given to them and throw it away, totally uneaten.
Now the lunches are unhealthy Standard American Diet. Brown, gray, white foods. That's it. No real green. They started substituting sweet potato fries for the regular and they wouldn't eat them. They give them a tiny side salad (less than a 1/4 cup of iceburg lettuce is a salad to them) and it always gets tossed.
What gets eaten?
Calzones
Chicken Nuggets or fingers
sometimes the hamburgers (no veggies)
I hate being on lunch duty because I have to smell the nasty food and watch "poor needy" kids just throw it away when there are millions of truly starving people who would literally eat anything we give them.
That makes me physically angry.0 -
I had to send a written letter to my kid's elementary school telling them NOT to allow my child to go through the line and purchase ice cream, chips, etc. I cc'd the principal and it worked pretty well. I did not put money at the time into an "account" and if they were fool enough to sell it to a kid then they deserve to end up short. Having said that I did give my kids a little lunch money from time to time because there is always the "I forgot" days.
We went to Academy and Walmart and I let both of my kids buy the thermos they wanted. They love them and take left over everything in them. I've even seen them chop up lasagna, heat it up, and stuff it in their thermos to take to school with veggies and applesauce. Neither of my kids like the cafeteria lunch. My daughter says their corn dogs are "green" on the inside. Yuk, yuk, yuk.
My son just graduated HS and my daughter is going into 8th grade so we've been at this a while. Check into a thermos. Even if you heat up canned spaghettio's or mac 'n cheese it's better than what they will get at school. So sad but true.0 -
Kids have been eating crap lunches for a while, it's not like all of a sudden they have gotten worse and it's this type of mentality that irks me. If you don't like what the school has to offer, don't give your child money to buy it. If you don't have that option and your child has no other alternative then rest assured that one meal every school day will not cause childhood obesity so long as they're not eating crap at home and they remain active. Instead of whining about things you can't control why not just make sure your home is the epitome of health.0
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My high school actually had pretty decent school lunches. You could still choose things like chicken fingers, french fries, and pizza. However, the normal school lunch was cheaper and (to many a student's surprise) tasted pretty good. They made staple meals like spaghetti & meatballs, grilled chicken, hamburgers, etc... And always in good portions (not too much) with a vegetable (a real vegetable, not a pizza-vegetable) and fruit (almost always an apple).
I started having it every day after I matured a little. It was cheaper, better tasting, and more filling than getting the chicken fingers, french fries, and pizza that were also offered. These days I would love to be able to buy something like that for 4 bucks. Instead, when I want to buy a quick lunch I'm usually looking for the least-bad thing on the menu at Wendy's (I recommend the ultimate chicken grill /w no sauce and a plain baked potato, if you're not worried about carbs).0 -
My son isn't at all-day school yet (he has another year of half-day nursery first) but we're already pretty much decided that he'll have packed lunches most (if not all) of the time. In order to get round the hot food issue, I'll be sending him to school with a hot food flask in which he can have soup or hot food - it will stay HOT for a couple of hours and then by lunch time be at a decent temperature for him to be able to eat. The way I see it is I cook nearly everything from scratch in our house, so I know exactly what is in our food, how it's been prepared, and how healthy and nutritious it is. If I send him of for school lunches, I have no idea about any of that as well as not knowing how much he has on his plate.
Having very recently seen the Never Seconds blog, written by a 9-y-o schoolgirl, the whole idea of school lunches does not inspire me or make me feel good about what Xander will be offered by his school at lunchtimes.
(If you haven't already see Never Seconds, take a look at it - it's an eye opener for sure! http://neverseconds.blogspot.co.uk/ )0 -
My son is in full time day care right now, (he's almost 3) and we pay for breakfast, lunch, and 2 snacks in our tuition.
He rarely eats anything there. We get a menu every week, and sometimes there may be 1-2 lunches I think he'll be okay with, the rest are gross.
All of the snacks are junk food, I always send him snacks from home, he'd rather have fruit than cheese puffs anyday.
The breakfasts are terrible.. he eats breakfast at home every day. Pop tarts? Muffins? Sugar Smacks cereal? Biscuit and jelly? No, thank you. My son would much rather have yogurt, fruit, oatmeal, or sometimes cereal (but NOT sugar smacks!)
I mean, he gets a little junk on occasion at home.. and maybe too often, but he doesn't need it 4 times a day, every day!! I let him have treats, but not multiple times a day!
In their defense, they do try to offer a meat, vegetable, fruit, and milk with every lunch.. but, I'm sorry, my son will not eat "Pork pot pie".. yuck!0 -
Anything "pot pie" is yuk.0
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Anything "pot pie" is yuk.
Now there's something we agree upon, Bruce!0 -
On a recent visit to my daughter’s school I made sure I said to my daughter in front of everyone very loud that the hot lunches that the other kids were eating looked gross.
I'm sure that made the kids whose only choice is to eat the lunch provided by the school, feel really great. You do realize that there are parents who can't afford to pack their child's lunch, so the child has to eat the free lunch provided by the school? I know I would look forward to eating my lunch that someone just referred to as 'gross'. Maybe instead of acting like a toddler you could actually put some effort into getting healthier lunches into the school.
And just to note, my children take lunch from home.0 -
On a recent visit to my daughter’s school I made sure I said to my daughter in front of everyone very loud that the hot lunches that the other kids were eating looked gross.
I'm sure that made the kids whose only choice is to eat the lunch provided by the school, feel really great. You do realize that there are parents who can't afford to pack their child's lunch, so the child has to eat the free lunch provided by the school? I know I would look forward to eating my lunch that someone just referred to as 'gross'. Maybe instead of acting like a toddler you could actually put some effort into getting healthier lunches into the school.
And just to note, my children take lunch from home.
I agree.. and it's not just a money thing.. some of them have parents that don't CARE what their kids eat, or even IF they eat. For some of them, that may be the only "real" meal they get.. and you just looked at it and called it "gross". Congrats.. you're big stuff.0 -
my children eat healthy breakfasts and dinners, so i don't mind if they eat crap for lunch.
they are pretty picky, so if they like what school offers, i'm glad they are eating something.
they aren't fat/unhealthy, and get regular exercise.0 -
I don't have kids so this may be slightly unrealistic, but 'some' people definitely need to teach their kids to be less picky eaters. If schools served what I (and probably many of you) eat they would have a riot on their hands. When I was younger my dad always made us finish our plates, whether we wanted to or not.
I think most kids become picky eaters because the parents are too lax. If your kid says he won't eat something, make him/her eat it anyways. They'll thank you when they grow up to be healthy people with an appreciation for a good diet.0
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