Another curious "Childless by Choice" question...

odusgolp
odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
edited December 2024 in Chit-Chat
I have a near 6 year old. I am divorced. I do the online dating thing sometimes.

I get contacted by men that do not have nor want children. They are very clear about that. And while I have no problem with their choice, I do question why they would want to DATE someone with children. To me, it would be much like those that agree they're awkward around or don't really like other people's kids... I guess I don't really understand it. While my son has a great dad and I'm not looking for a father figure, clearly he is a huge part of my life. Being with me would mean being with him.

Personally, I happen to lean towards those that do have children. Biased of me, I realize, but after dating both categories there seems to be some understanding there. My child comes first, I won't always be available, while I date my son does not and you will not be meeting him, etc... Those are my values which seem to be more easily accepted by other single parents.

I guess the question is, if you are Childless by Choice (and God Bless you for it!) would you be inclined or uninclined to date those with children? And why?
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  • If they have primary custody or otherwise expect me to be around the children at all -or are the type that no longer have an identity outside their kids- I won't date them.
  • ItsMeRebekah
    ItsMeRebekah Posts: 909 Member
    i would think that if this was happening on a dating site then it would = just wanting to bang it out, not really have a relationship
    JMO
  • sillygoose1977
    sillygoose1977 Posts: 2,151 Member
    I have a hard time dating men without children. They don't seem to understand the parent/child bond and the fact that our kids will ALWAYS be no. 1.

    Forgot to mention that I won't date anyone that wants more kids. I did for a while and it was kind of ugly when I I hit that point in my life where I knew I was totally done having kids. Wasted 4 years of my life. I also don't think I would date anyone with a child younger than my daughter. Not only am I finished having kids but I don't want to be a mom(ish) to anyone else. Never realized how picky I am til now.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    i would think that if this was happening on a dating site then it would = just wanting to bang it out, not really have a relationship
    JMO

    Kinda agree, sadly *L*
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    You know I had my daughter really young... but I knew I didn't want more children. So (after my daughter moved in with her father), when I was dating, I would only consider serious relationships with men who didn't have children and didn't want them. I think it's strange for men who don't want kids to try to have a relationship with a woman who does. Unless they're unsure.. then I could understand completely.
  • 4thehardman
    4thehardman Posts: 729 Member
    I wouldn't want to raise some others kids. Its hard enough with mine most days and Moms are sometimes jealous and vindictive and I wouldn't want to be 'the other woman' in a kids life
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    You know I had my daughter really young... but I knew I didn't want more children. So (after my daughter moved in with her father), when I was dating, I would only consider serious relationships with men who didn't have children and didn't want them. I think it's strange for men who don't want kids to try to have a relationship with a woman who does. Unless they're unsure.. then I could understand completely.

    It's odd to me. I don't want any more children. I feel like that chapter of my life is closed. I won't ever say NEVER cause... well... who knows. But I only look for people who do not want to have any children either. I think it's a really huge issue, so nip it in the tit right off!
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    i would think that if this was happening on a dating site then it would = just wanting to bang it out, not really have a relationship
    JMO

    Kinda agree, sadly *L*

    This is my thought too. May help you weed out those looking for actual relationships vs. short term good time at least.
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    Perhaps many single people know that having a "zero kids" moratorium is going to make it very hard to find someone?

    As long as the person is willing not to have more, I can see why someone childless by choice (like myself) would date someone wh has kids (my husband had 5 already when we met). While I had no intention of having any kids, I was willing to be a stepmother to his. And his desire to keep his herd at only 5 fit perfectly with my desire to not ever be pregnant.
  • TheBraveryLover
    TheBraveryLover Posts: 1,217 Member
    I don't mind being a step parent, so I definitely don't mind dating a man with children. It's those without kids who do want kids that I seem to be running into lately. Men who have no children and no desire to have them is my first choice though, in a mate.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    Perhaps many single people know that having a "zero kids" moratorium is going to make it very hard to find someone?

    As long as the person is willing not to have more, I can see why someone childless by choice (like myself) would date someone wh has kids (my husband had 5 already when we met). While I had no intention of having any kids, I was willing to be a stepmother to his. And his desire to keep his herd at only 5 fit perfectly with my desire to not ever be pregnant.

    Was it more that you didn't want kids or didn't want pregnancy? Yay for step-momming 5 kids! I don't think I could handle that *LOL*



    I could also totally understand that if age, or inability to conceive took someone to the not having children decision but still willing to date those with kids... totally different circumstance I should have noted.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Ive never had a problem dating anyone with a child. At this point in my life, ive never had the desire to birth a human, though. But that doesnt mean I dont like kids. Its totally the opposite. I LOVE KIDS and they are drawn to me like some kind of rainbow glitter bells and whistles bug zapper. I consider myself childless by choice because i feel that is a decision I would ONLY be ABLE to make WITH someone else. Like, you know, a decision. And since I dont know who that person would be, I cant make up my mind now.

    So in the meantime, until or if I meet someone that might want a child with me, as scary as that seems to me, Im totally fine with dating dads that already have a kid. Hell those guys are some of the most FUN EVER. If i fall in love with someone who has a kid of their own, they will probably be so much like their dad that I wont be able to help but love them completely, and I may not have to ever be pregnant. WIN/WIN/WIN
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    I didn't want pregnancy, infancy, or teenagerhood. If I could somehow get an already well-mannered kid at about age 4, and then give them away at about age 12, that's about all the parenting I'm interested in.


    When we married, his kids lived far away in another state with their mother. So I believed I was signing on to be a summer vacation for two weeks and every other christmas stepmom. Little did I know what was in store ;)

    2 years later, when the older boy turned 12, he wanted to live with his Dad. What was I going to say, no? So we raised him up till 18, and just as he was leaving for college, and the edge of freedom was in sight, his younger brother did the exact same thing. Hey, Dad, Can I live with you for high school? So we had 4 more years of teenagery goodness.

    Now the youngest is 20, the oldest has kids, and I am incredibly proud of them, and love being involved in their lives, and am out of my mind with pride over my two adorable grandchildren.


    I got the best of both worlds, childlessness with a chance at parenting.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    Ive never had a problem dating anyone with a child. At this point in my life, ive never had the desire to birth a human, though. But that doesnt mean I dont like kids. Its totally the opposite. I LOVE KIDS and they are drawn to me like some kind of rainbow glitter bells and whistles bug zapper. I consider myself childless by choice because i feel that is a decision I would ONLY be ABLE to make WITH someone else. Like, you know, a decision. And since I dont know who that person would be, I cant make up my mind now.

    So in the meantime, until or if I meet someone that might want a child with me, as scary as that seems to me, Im totally fine with dating dads that already have a kid. Hell those guys are some of the most FUN EVER. If i fall in love with someone who has a kid of their own, they will probably be so much like their dad that I wont be able to help but love them completely, and I may not have to ever be pregnant. WIN/WIN/WIN

    Haha! I love it ;)
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    I didn't want pregnancy, infancy, or teenagerhood. If I could somehow get an already well-mannered kid at about age 4, and then give them away at about age 12, that's about all the parenting I'm interested in.


    When we married, his kids lived far away in another state with their mother. So I believed I was signing on to be a summer vacation for two weeks and every other christmas stepmom. Little did I know what was in store ;)

    2 years later, when the older boy turned 12, he wanted to live with his Dad. What was I going to say, no? So we raised him up till 18, and just as he was leaving for college, and the edge of freedom was in sight, his younger brother did the exact same thing. Hey, Dad, Can I live with you for high school? So we had 4 more years of teenagery goodness.

    Now the youngest is 20, the oldest has kids, and I am incredibly proud of them, and love being involved in their lives, and am out of my mind with pride over my two adorable grandchildren.


    I got the best of both worlds, childlessness with a chance at parenting.

    That's awesome :)
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    If I were single again, I would not consider dating a man with kids. The lifestyle of a parent is not one I am interested in leading - I want to be able to travel with no regard for school schedules, I don't want to have to socialize with other kids' parents, and I'd rather be able to devote myself to my wonderful career rather than have to worry about maternity leave/staying home with a sick child/leaving early to go to their baseball game.

    I'd want to date someone with my same morals and interests, so I can't say I'd really be interested in a meaningful relationship with someone who is already a parent.
  • spynoodle
    spynoodle Posts: 404
    I have never wanted my own children. I am not opposed to dating someone that does have kids. Hopefully, they have drama-free relationships with their exes.
  • Alex_is_Hawks
    Alex_is_Hawks Posts: 3,499 Member
    My daughter and I were talking about this.

    I just ended a relationship with her step father that was awesome for about 3 years and then got really sour the last two years. His boys and their growing list of special needs became the breaking point. Not because I didn't like it, or couldn't handle it, but rather that his perception of my daughter (thankfully not special needs and very mature and independent for her age) became very sour and negative as more and more problems with his boys came to light. (ADHD, ODD, Aspergers, sleep issues, being sickly constantly, allergies....etc)

    The last year the communication and ability to even be civil or nice to my daughter or to me about my parental decisions broke down completely and got very ugly.

    So, as a result of our discussions and talking about that relationship and how it soured for both her and I, we've made a list of what would be necessary in another partner once I am ready to enter the dating field (which won't be for a LONG time)

    - he has to not want more kids, i'm fixed, i'm done and I'm happy that way
    - if he has kids, then it has to be a girl, nothing against little boys, but the past year and the way those boys acted and were allowed to get away with it because they were "special needs" (aka inappropriate potty humor, flashing, touching themselves in public, being gender biased etc) my daughter actually has some anxiety around boys...so we wouldn't be to interested in welcoming another boy into our lives at this point...we will love them from afar (this could change though)
    - if he has kids, the child has to be the same age or older than my daughter. I don't want to raise anymore babies. I'm done with that.

    I know it sounds picky and I know it maybe even sounds judgemental, but it's what my daughter and I would need to be happy, so it is what it is....it has nothing to do with boys, and more to do with letting my daughter heal her social anxiety and stress than anything. She comes first, she doesn't want boys? I don't want boys.

    Lauren
  • TadaGanIarracht
    TadaGanIarracht Posts: 2,615 Member
    Well now I'm a mother but a few years ago I never wanted or desired to have children.

    I met a guy online and I knew I wanted to be with him but he had a daughter from a previous marriage and he's 11 years older than me. Well something happened at my mom's house that pissed me off so I went on a roadtrip to "hang out" with said older man.

    I met his daughter and fell in love with his family. We've been pretty inseparable since and the girl who never wanted children now has a 12 year old step daughter and a one year old son AND plans to have another one after I'm done with school.

    The end.
  • devonette
    devonette Posts: 263 Member
    My 53 year old brother is childless by choice. He says that kids prevent people from being able to go where they want when they want, and are a financial drain. When my brother dates someone, he wants to date the kind of person he sees a long future with. He will not knowingly date women who have children, even women whose children are older and have left home. He says too much emotional "baggage" comes with it, even if the kids are not in the mother's life every day. The kids will always come first to the mother, rather than him. He broke up with his "soul mate" after 5 years of being together because she wanted to have children and he did not. It was just that important to him. He finds it very hard to find single women to date because they either want children or have children.

    He also doesn't want to date women who treat their pets like children, he says that's just as bad. He's had experiences with women who either want to bring their little dogs with them on dates, spend tons of money on pampering their pets or won't leave home for more than a couple of hours because of the dog, and who have insisted he give the pets kisses.
  • maab_connor
    maab_connor Posts: 3,927 Member
    i don't want my own. i sure as hell don't want someone else's. kids are a total deal-breaker for me. either ones in existance already or ones he might want in the future.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    My 53 year old brother is childless by choice. He says that kids prevent people from being able to go where they want when they want, and are a financial drain. When my brother dates someone, he wants to date the kind of person he sees a long future with. He will not knowingly date women who have children, even women whose children are older and have left home. He says too much emotional "baggage" comes with it, even if the kids are not in the mother's life every day. The kids will always come first to the mother, rather than him. He broke up with his "soul mate" after 5 years of being together because she wanted to have children and he did not. It was just that important to him. He finds it very hard to find single women to date because they either want children or have children.

    And honestly, I wouldn't want to date him. So that works out appropriately for pretty much anyone that doesn't agree with him that children are a hindrance or baggage.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    Absolutely not. It would be one of the first questions I asked the guy. If he had kids of any age, deal breaker.

    p.s. We kind of prefer Child FREE by Choice. :drinker:
  • 2FattyXFatty4
    2FattyXFatty4 Posts: 215 Member
    I have a near 6 year old. I am divorced. I do the online dating thing sometimes.

    I get contacted by men that do not have nor want children. They are very clear about that. And while I have no problem with their choice, I do question why they would want to DATE someone with children. To me, it would be much like those that agree they're awkward around or don't really like other people's kids... I guess I don't really understand it. While my son has a great dad and I'm not looking for a father figure, clearly he is a huge part of my life. Being with me would mean being with him.

    Personally, I happen to lean towards those that do have children. Biased of me, I realize, but after dating both categories there seems to be some understanding there. My child comes first, I won't always be available, while I date my son does not and you will not be meeting him, etc... Those are my values which seem to be more easily accepted by other single parents.

    I guess the question is, if you are Childless by Choice (and God Bless you for it!) would you be inclined or uninclined to date those with children? And why?

    well i am childfree .. don't want kids and i don't date people with children because i can't stand to be around them. but some childfree by choice folks can tolerate children. and then there are some childfree folks who are looking to just date ...and that is it so whether you have a child or not isn't an issue for them because they don't plan to become serious.
  • _SusieQ_
    _SusieQ_ Posts: 2,964 Member
    I think I would be ok with being a stepparent. I just never wanted the responsibility of being a full time parent, of being responsible for raising another human being and hoping to make them a standup member of society. Too much pressure. Plus I'm selfish, I admit. I like having my adult time to do what I want with it, and full time parenting doesn't fit into that. Having said that I do like kids, and I'm a fanf*ckingtastic aunt. So stepparenting would be ok with me, as long as they didn't live with me.
  • 2FattyXFatty4
    2FattyXFatty4 Posts: 215 Member
    My 53 year old brother is childless by choice. He says that kids prevent people from being able to go where they want when they want, and are a financial drain. When my brother dates someone, he wants to date the kind of person he sees a long future with. He will not knowingly date women who have children, even women whose children are older and have left home. He says too much emotional "baggage" comes with it, even if the kids are not in the mother's life every day. The kids will always come first to the mother, rather than him. He broke up with his "soul mate" after 5 years of being together because she wanted to have children and he did not. It was just that important to him. He finds it very hard to find single women to date because they either want children or have children.

    He also doesn't want to date women who treat their pets like children, he says that's just as bad. He's had experiences with women who either want to bring their little dogs with them on dates, spend tons of money on pampering their pets or won't leave home for more than a couple of hours because of the dog, and who have insisted he give the pets kisses.

    i broke up with my fiancee, the love of my life, because he "flipped" on me. i don't want kids and he knew this when we met and started dating. then ... he decided that he did want to be a father after all. it was painful but for the best. i'm glad he changed his mind BEFORE we got married.
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    I have 2 boys, 15 and 11, from 2 other relationships.

    My 6 year live-in boyfriend was adamant about "I don't want kids". Worked for me because I DO NOT want more.

    But there are 2 different versions of not wanting kids.
    There's "I dislike being around/taking care of children"...
    and there's "yours are awesome I just have no desire to pass on my own DNA".

    Luckily, James was of the second school of thought.
  • 2FattyXFatty4
    2FattyXFatty4 Posts: 215 Member
    I think I would be ok with being a stepparent. I just never wanted the responsibility of being a full time parent, of being responsible for raising another human being and hoping to make them a standup member of society. Too much pressure. Plus I'm selfish, I admit. I like having my adult time to do what I want with it, and full time parenting doesn't fit into that. Having said that I do like kids, and I'm a fanf*ckingtastic aunt. So stepparenting would be ok with me, as long as they didn't live with me.

    wanting me-time whenever you want it, and not wanting to raise children doesn't make you any more selfish than people who have kids because they want to "continue their legacy" or for whatever other reason. no one ever asks potential parents why they want to have children or why they did have kids ... don't let society's influence make you present excuses or soften the blow on your choice not to.
  • Pocket_Pixi
    Pocket_Pixi Posts: 1,167 Member
    I think I would be ok with being a stepparent. I just never wanted the responsibility of being a full time parent, of being responsible for raising another human being and hoping to make them a standup member of society. Too much pressure. Plus I'm selfish, I admit. I like having my adult time to do what I want with it, and full time parenting doesn't fit into that. Having said that I do like kids, and I'm a fanf*ckingtastic aunt. So stepparenting would be ok with me, as long as they didn't live with me.

    This. I would be 100% OK with being a step-partent, I just do not want to be a full time parent. I am selfish, and I know that. I like being able to do things and not have to worry about a child, or what I am going to do with a child, and assuming its a shared custody thing the child is not always with you. I have dated guys with children and it doesn't bother me at all. I I actually like kids, and I am possibly the best aunt on earth - but I can send her home at the end of the day and go about my life.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    once you reach a certain age i dont think you have much of a choice.

    for instance i'm 40, dont want kid, but the odds of me finding an age appropriate man without kids at this age is much harder than when i was 25. as long as i get along with the guy, i'm flexible on the kid thing. i just know i dont want to be squeezing any out of my my uterus
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