Children and calories
4thehardman
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Since I started MFP I have been more aware of my own consumption because of logging but I have been thinking about the calorie consumption of my children.
Most of the internet information I can find tells me that my active children should be eating arount 1400calories per day.
Do any of you more experienced calorie counters have any further information on this and do you agree with these numbers?
Do you take into consideration your childs calorie intake every day or do you just feed them when they are hungry etc?
I'd be inclined to think that calorie counting (within reason) for my growing 3 year olds and my 4 year old would infact be quite important to avoid weight issues later in life.
Im not talking about dieting. Infact more about making sure they get a minimum of the suggested amount per day.
From someone who has been fat most of her life, I am desperate to avoid my kids having to go through the same issues. Obviously leading by example is the key and that I what I do with food and exercise but lack of knowledge in this area is bothering me.
I'd love your thoughts.
Most of the internet information I can find tells me that my active children should be eating arount 1400calories per day.
Do any of you more experienced calorie counters have any further information on this and do you agree with these numbers?
Do you take into consideration your childs calorie intake every day or do you just feed them when they are hungry etc?
I'd be inclined to think that calorie counting (within reason) for my growing 3 year olds and my 4 year old would infact be quite important to avoid weight issues later in life.
Im not talking about dieting. Infact more about making sure they get a minimum of the suggested amount per day.
From someone who has been fat most of her life, I am desperate to avoid my kids having to go through the same issues. Obviously leading by example is the key and that I what I do with food and exercise but lack of knowledge in this area is bothering me.
I'd love your thoughts.
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If you limit snacking and sweet treats the children will probably self regulate at meal times. It tends to be mindless over eating that gets them fat, they'll let you know if they're hungry.
There are some numbers in a table at www.weightlossresources.co.uk/children/nutrition_calorie_needs.htm
Watching their minerals & vitamins, plus essential fats, is probably as important as calories while they are growing.0 -
Thank you.
We actually have teeth issues with our children from my husbands side of the family so they are not allowed processed sugar so thats not an issue.
I guess I'm just realsing now that if we all have salmon salad for lunch that I probably need to get them to have, lets say, avocado or something too so that they are getting all they need from the meal. Or a wholmeal roll or something.
I have been so focused on getting myself to eat healthy food that I'm worried I may have momentarily failed them.....no wonder my 4 year old can eat 3 weetbix every morning!!0 -
Mine has a brain issue. I give him a handful of supplements with his morning "coffee". He is twelve so younger kids can scale back quantities. Feeding a kid for optimal brain health pretty well takes care of over-all health.
2 Fish Oil capsules
2 evening primrose oil
1 multi kid's chewable
1 Ca-Mg-Zn minerals
1 vit D in winter
1 packet of emergen-C sometime during the day
Keep the food healthy. American kids are so big and tall because they can use protein and nutrients for growing while using carbs for energy. In the third world, kids need to tap the protein and fats for energy as well so they are smaller. An active kid with a strong metabolism can eat lots of carbs. A kids that is less active can get fat eating too many carbs. A kid that is in sports, etc. can eat a bit more. A kid that is stuck in front of the XBOX may just get celery and baby carrots.0 -
I just feed them when they are hungry and don't give too many sweets and they are both the perfect weight. If your kids don't have a weight problem then I wouldn't stress about it.
And I don't believe in making them finish every scrap on their plate. As long as they have eaten a reasonable amount then I am happy.
Just what I do, but every kid is different x0 -
I am overweight but my children are not, they are 9 and 4. I have always tried to encourage them to eat fruit and vegetables and give them a healthy diet. Do not make your children eat a low carbohydrate diet. They need the energy for growth and it does not need to make them fat. I limit the amount of junk food, fizzy drinks and sweets and chocolate but I do not limit things like bread or cheese. If they say they are hungry between meals I offer fruit fresh or dried, cheese and crackers or breadsticks. I also give them whole milk, not the skimmed variety I drink. They are also very active, we go to the park a lot and swimming. I give them a general vitamin supplement for children as (my 4 year old especially) isn't good at eating a variety of fruit and veg. I try when I can to cook family meals where we all sit down together. Hope this helps0
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Yeah. What is that with 4 year olds and vegetables?
The triplets were small at birth and are not spot on for weight and height yet but thats to be expected for a little while. They are all quite petite with less than 40g difference between the smallest and biggest. They will eat anything though and are very good with fruit, veg, fish etc
They ski all winter and swim all summer so they are definately active.
I guess that I'm just a bit paranoid because of my own weight issues but I suppose that being aware is a good start.0 -
Also, since you are starting with young kids. Make them salad. I do a daily salad "flower arrangement" for the kid. Use a large dinner plate. Fan whole lettuce leaves, (dark greens) and lightly sprinkle with sugar of leave plain. Artfully place a pile of tomatoes with a light salt sprinkle. A row of cucumber slices with a few drops of balsamic. Peeled whole carrot and julienne bell pepper. Cruciforms such as broccoli are beautiful. You can add cut fruits and steamed parts also.
Leave a large head of romaine on the counter with the bottom trimmed and in a short vase or glass like a flower arrangement for the kids to help themselves. Have fruit readily available on the counter. Teach a kid how to peel an orange. Melon is fantastic.
One of life's pleasures is to cut up fruit for your loved ones. Children love plain simple foods, no need for dressings or any sort of "weird" complexity like a casserole or sauces until they are much older if ever. It may seem like a pain in the butt to feed them so simply, but, they do develop a taste for eating simple whole foods.
I also buy one package of nori seaweed sheets per week for the kid. It is a great alternative to eating chips.
I may be fat and dying, but the kid is gorgeous, strong and sleek.0 -
I have always been told that my kids are underweight! They have very slim physiques and I have to but the trousers with the adjustable waists so they don't fall down! (If only I had that problem lol !) I breastfed them both in the hope that it would prevent them becoming obese in later life. I am trying to lose my weight now so I can keep up with them!0
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Honestly, I have always wondered the same thing. My daughter is two and by no means do I want her to become overweight or obsessed with everything she puts into her mouth. She is so picky right now with what she eats. And she goes in spurts. She will eat nothing for breakfast and then a ton for dinner. I will admit I get lazy at times, but I do get frustrated and disappointed when I make something nice and nutritious and it just goes in the garbage.0
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I wouldn't limit a child's calories count but I would have them eat healthier. If a child is eating healthy then there is a lot less possibility of them becoming overweight. Does anyone know if this alone would work for a child who is already heavy?0
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Don't bother with fancy recipes for kids, they usually don't appreciate them!0
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On the issue of milk for the kids...
I only buy whole organic. The kid gets a cup per day. Kids drinks lots of milk at school that is not whole or organic. It is a theory amongst the parents here that our kids are hitting puberty early because of the milk. Pubescent boys will tend to grow small temporary breasts.0 -
With kids I would not wrry too much about there caloric intake. Just try to ensure they are getting a balanced diet, lots of fruit and veg where possible and not too much processed stuff. Ideally try and give them healthier snacks but I would never limit a certain food group for kids.
By limiting things it can lead to them developing an unhealthy relatioship with food!0 -
I wouldn't limit a child's calories count but I would have them eat healthier. If a child is eating healthy then there is a lot less possibility of them becoming overweight. Does anyone know if this alone would work for a child who is already heavy?
I wouldn't count calories but I would try to follow the food groups and keep in mind CHILD serving sizes. My oldest daughter eats erratically with amount and type of food. Last night she ate almost a whole cut up pepper. She might not eat peppers again for a week!.we don't make her clean her plate but she does have to try everything to get dessert whether it is fruit or ice cream. She is close to being underweight so lots of snacks are high calorie like cheese or peanut butter. I think overweight kids would not get those options.
unless kids have weight issues I would rather them stay ignorant of calorie counting. just focus on health and portion control.0 -
If you do have an overweight child then ask their doctor for advice. I think it would be dangerous to put a child on a restricted diet on your own.0
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1400 calories seems too low to me, especially if your child is active...
Kids are easy to feed...they eat when hungry and stop eating when full. Some days they eat A LOT, others that just pick at their food. It is us adults who put too much emphasis on finshing their meals, eating all ther veggies, no candy or sweets. We want our kids to have a healthy attitiutde to food, not worry that that they can't have something toeat or going out for ice cream is going to make them fat.
If you offer your child 3 healthy well balanced meals a day, let them eat what they want from it. The younger they are the less they eat...I think rule of thumb is that a plate of food is the size of their fist..that is all. Offer them ,under 2, full fat milk for brain development,over 2 low fat milk or water...I usually do milk at meals, water when thirsty during the day. I don't do juice, it fills them up and then they don't want to eat. If hungry between meals offer serving size of goodies ( 3 chips ahoy cookies is serving size, not half the package) or fruit or whatever. If you make an issue of no sweets, it will back fire on you, especially when your child gets older and is capable of being at a friends without you.
If they eat they eat, if they don't they don't. Don't make a power play over it, keep food low key....dinner is about family time, not about cleaning your plate.
If I am trying out a new food or dish, I have my children take a "no thank-you bite". They have to take a small taste, but if truely don't like it respectfully tell me "no thank you" ( I worked hard on that dish no need to be rude)...I then tell them that they can go get a bowl of cereal if they don't like it. I don't cook more than 1 meal at a time, I am not a retuaruant, if you don't like it, cereal is a good stand by. Through the years there were very few times they picked cereal over the meal
Get your children away from the tv and video games, make them go outside and play...tag, jump rope, hop scotch...simple games that get them moving. Bike rides, scooters, walks...all good family activities.
I have 6 children...3 are now adults...all of them are healthy and active and "weight" appropriate for their size...They all will try new foods, they all know how to say "I am full" without fear of me making them sit to finish it all. They enjoy ice cream, pizza, candy along with fruits, vegetables, fish and healthy foods.0 -
I don't calorie count for my 4 and 5 year old. The focus is on healthy eating, wholegrain, plenty of fruit and veg, dairy, avoiding processed when possible, basically old-fashioned "normal" food. All meals are eaten at the table.
And yes, they'll get a treat as well, a sweet, a little chocolate or an ice lolly.
Other than that we make sure we are active as a family, we're outdoors a lot (weather permitting), do bike rides, hill walking, or good old playing the playground.
The words "diet", "calories" and "scales" are not words we use (I do that behind closed doors :laugh: )0 -
My daughter who is 7 has a huge appetite. She loves all food from the healthiest stuff to the junk. We can't have junk in the house because of my own food issues. But any rich meal like pasta or if I make home fries, or at pizza parties- she eats a ton very quickly.
I have learned to quietly and nicely say things like, "2 pieces of pizza would be a good amount for a 7 year old." Before she starts eating so that she can plan to pace herself a bit. She doesn't mind.
When she goes on play dates on her own I know she goes crazy with food if her friends parents let her. It is hard to learn to say enough is enough in a loving way. It is almost taboo.
I do live in a not-so-healthy community. It is hard for me to hide the shock on my face when I hear things like a parent saying, "I make the best pancakes. Chocolate chip covered with whipped cream, maple syrup and chocolate syrup." Or, "Your daughter didn't like my kids favorite sandwich, PB, (marshmallow) Fluff, and M&M's."
It is shocking!!! I also feel a bit helpless in trying to teach my daughter the proper way to eat when so much "fun food" and candy is passed out in the classroom. Parents bring in stuff continuously.
That all said, I never deny my kids food when they are hungry. If after the 2 slices of pizza my daughter complains of hunger there is always fruit that she loves on our counter and in the fridge. She used to challenge me on the issue but I have stuck to my theory that if you are really hungry you will eat fruit.0 -
I do live in a not-so-healthy community. It is hard for me to hide the shock on my face when I hear things like a parent saying, "I make the best pancakes. Chocolate chip covered with whipped cream, maple syrup and chocolate syrup." Or, "Your daughter didn't like my kids favorite sandwich, PB, (marshmallow) Fluff, and M&M's."
People actually eat this stuff? Where do they even get these ideas??0 -
I wouldn't limit a child's calories count but I would have them eat healthier. If a child is eating healthy then there is a lot less possibility of them becoming overweight. Does anyone know if this alone would work for a child who is already heavy?
I wouldn't put a child on a diet or limit their calories without asking a dr first. They need a mixture of fats, carbs and protein for their growing bodies and bain development.
However for a child already heavy I would do correct serving size, limit soda and juice, and limit amount of tv/video games during the day. As a parent there are a lot of things to make something healthier... for example, instead of french toast, have waffles...use fat free plain greek yogurt instead of mayo, ice pops instead of ice cream, etc...
But most of all, make your child play, dance, bike ride, walk, create...0 -
I just posted above. My daughter was a chubby baby. She held on to the "baby fat" for a long time. Although her pediatrician assured me that she was just following her growth curve, she seemed to always be hungry and eat whatever she could.
Now she has healthy BMI but at the higher end and is a very tall kid. I think that controlling portions of the richer foods and providing unlimited amounts of the healthy fruits and veggies has helped her lose that chubby baby look. She never lost any weight but she grew into it.
Unkind people used to make comments about her chubbiness- it is really insane to have overweight and obese adults freely criticizing a child's body.0 -
The thing about children is they move around a lot and are trying to grow. I understand avoiding bad habbits like snacking and incredibly highly processed high calorie junk but I highly recommend giving them food when they are hungry.......and the last place I would go to ask advice is a forum filled with people on vlcd. Talk to a professional about limiting your childrens food.
Its more important to give them proper nutrition. They are likely to feel satisfied and not hungry. Sometines when your hungry your body is trying to say something else0 -
I do live in a not-so-healthy community. It is hard for me to hide the shock on my face when I hear things like a parent saying, "I make the best pancakes. Chocolate chip covered with whipped cream, maple syrup and chocolate syrup." Or, "Your daughter didn't like my kids favorite sandwich, PB, (marshmallow) Fluff, and M&M's."
People actually eat this stuff? Where do they even get these ideas??
I don't know. PB and Fluff is a thing where I live. I am a transplant so I had never heard of it. I tried it once and it was delicious but not something I could call lunch!0 -
I have a 7year old and a 5 year old both girls and both are extremely active. My 7year old just this year made the cart in the Healthy weight range ( she has been considered underweight until now as she was born a premie and has just never really gained weight fast) my 5year old is right in the middle of the normal range for her age. I feed them both exactly what my hubby and I eat only cut the portion size alittle. I do not make them special meals they eat what we eat if I cook boneless skinless chicken , asparagus and some fresh fruit and milk to drink for dinner thats what everyone gets and I prepair everyones plate before sitting it on the table. My girls are free to snack threw out the day as they need too ( I keep cheese stix , oranges , apples , grapes , mini tomatoes , cucumber slices , green pepper , kiwi ,yogurts, and peanut butter (craclers or bread if they want) all open too them to grab as they see fit ). If we get ice cream or chips its normaly for a special occasion like game night or movie night and then they may have those items then but other than those special times I don`t keep those items in the house. I also haven`t been buying pop so my girls really only have pop when we eat out or at other family members homes and happily my girls prefer and normaly request water0
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This is such a tricky issue! I have two boys aged 7 and 9 who are both very active but like me are prone to being chubby! I have my weight under control now but can honestly say that I am obsessed with calorie intake, exercise, carbs and fat content.
I try not to be hung up on my kid's diet too much. They eat healthily and do have snacks and chocolate if they have had their meals. I do not want them growing up obsessed by their weight and having the same food issues I have so try to be quite relaxed around their eating habits. So far as they are both very sporty it is not an issue, but I know it could be as after they have been staying with their Dad for a week or so (hols twice a year) they both come back looking decidedly tubby.
I take this as proof that I am doing a fair job with them and they do have plenty of treats but eat proper balanced meals and plenty of fruit and veg and carbs daily.
Please don't get hung up on calorie intake, if they look fine and are eating a bit of everything then you are doing ok.
Hope this helps
Jules xx0 -
My daughter who is 7 has a huge appetite. She loves all food from the healthiest stuff to the junk. We can't have junk in the house because of my own food issues. But any rich meal like pasta or if I make home fries, or at pizza parties- she eats a ton very quickly.
I have learned to quietly and nicely say things like, "2 pieces of pizza would be a good amount for a 7 year old." Before she starts eating so that she can plan to pace herself a bit. She doesn't mind.
When she goes on play dates on her own I know she goes crazy with food if her friends parents let her. It is hard to learn to say enough is enough in a loving way. It is almost taboo.
I do live in a not-so-healthy community. It is hard for me to hide the shock on my face when I hear things like a parent saying, "I make the best pancakes. Chocolate chip covered with whipped cream, maple syrup and chocolate syrup." Or, "Your daughter didn't like my kids favorite sandwich, PB, (marshmallow) Fluff, and M&M's."
It is shocking!!! I also feel a bit helpless in trying to teach my daughter the proper way to eat when so much "fun food" and candy is passed out in the classroom. Parents bring in stuff continuously.
That all said, I never deny my kids food when they are hungry. If after the 2 slices of pizza my daughter complains of hunger there is always fruit that she loves on our counter and in the fridge. She used to challenge me on the issue but I have stuck to my theory that if you are really hungry you will eat fruit.0 -
i dont do calorie counting for my kids - for some things i give them a full serving if i KNOW theyll eat it all (like my 5 year old with rice). but most times i give them a half serving, and if they finish it all and are still hungry they can have more.
they get three meals, and one or two snacks a day..dessert usually once a week.
theyre pretty active (especially now that its summer) and we talk about healthy foods/snacks and why certain things are bad for us, or should be limited. they love their veggies and fruits, and overall have a healthy diet and attitude toward food.0
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