What is this Paleo Diet????

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  • VegesaurusRex
    VegesaurusRex Posts: 1,018
    Very interesting post. Thanks for sharing!

    What I don't understand about the Paleo diet is why someone would want to eat like cavemen that only lived to be 40.

    Also, I believe in modern days in a first world country and all our abundance of healthy fruits, nuts & veggies that provide all the nutrition we need, there is no need to kill other living creatures for survival as it was years ago.

    However, I think the Paleo diet that promotes grass-fed meat is a step up since it helps reduce the huge problem of the suffering of factory-farmed animals even if that isn't their intention. It is healthi-er than eating the diseased factory-farmed animals pumped full of hormones and pesticides from their feed, etc., even though they still have the clogged artery issue that only happens when you eat animals.

    You could not be more right. Also from the poster who suggested a nutritiional site:

    "Try this:
    http://www.mercola.com/Nutritionplan/index.htm

    it might help. He has an actual NT test to find out what your type is. Get it and take it. It really helped me find what I should and shouldn't eat for my type and body. I had allergies I didn't even know I had. Once I eliminated them I felt better."

    Thanks I also thought that advice was good, and while I do not follow it completely, I do recognize that it is on track.
  • live2dream
    live2dream Posts: 614 Member
    Very interesting post. Thanks for sharing!

    What I don't understand about the Paleo diet is why someone would want to eat like cavemen that only lived to be 40.

    Also, I believe in modern days in a first world country and all our abundance of healthy fruits, nuts & veggies that provide all the nutrition we need, there is no need to kill other living creatures for survival as it was years ago.

    However, I think the Paleo diet that promotes grass-fed meat is a step up since it helps reduce the huge problem of the suffering of factory-farmed animals even if that isn't their intention. It is healthi-er than eating the diseased factory-farmed animals pumped full of hormones and pesticides from their feed, etc., even though they still have the clogged artery issue that only happens when you eat animals.

    You could not be more right. Also from the poster who suggested a nutritiional site:

    "Try this:
    http://www.mercola.com/Nutritionplan/index.htm

    it might help. He has an actual NT test to find out what your type is. Get it and take it. It really helped me find what I should and shouldn't eat for my type and body. I had allergies I didn't even know I had. Once I eliminated them I felt better."

    Thanks I also thought that advice was good, and while I do not follow it completely, I do recognize that it is on track.

    Yeah I did the test years ago and have his book. The important thing is for people to listen to their body and do what makes them feel good. :)
  • runlaugheatpie
    runlaugheatpie Posts: 376 Member
    meh. I don't really care if something is historically or scientifically proven. What I do know is that I've started eating loosely based originally on the Paleo diet and not only did I break through a 2.5 year (yes, YEAR) plateau (and feel free to read through my blog if you think I just wasn't trying hard enough), but I sleep better, I feel better and I have more energy. At this stage I eat almost no wheat products, no soy, no legumes - though I have probably had wheat 5 times and beans 3 times since February. The black beans I ate seem to have processed better than the bread/pasta I've had.

    I don't criticise people whose diet consists of all pre-packaged, fast food, or convenience food. That's their choice.

    Regardless I would be a meat eater. I like meat and try to buy at least 50% organic/local of what my household consumes (including fresh dairy and eggs, but easy enough for me I live near a whole bunch of farms in the Netherlands). Unfortunately I have to make choices with the Euros I get from my employer every month.

    Oh yeah and I have red wine every weekend. Sue me ;-)
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    This is interesting reading. I'm not sure what the point of this post is. I couldn't tell. But, I read it all up to this point. I was searching for this topic becasue I have interest in this, although, I am beginning to quickly reject the idea for a very simple reason. In the way I think, Paleolithic man did not choose their diet. I doubt they were even healthy, since they all died at age 30, or whatever. I'm sure they would have been really happy to have a bag of rice hanging around to cook up when they ran short of food to eat.

    So, I am rejecting it due to it's silly-ness. If the paleo man chose their diet, than I would have respect for it. But, because we now have shipping vessels and a world market, I can choose other options, like pasta or rice or other foods that have benefits for my body.

    I do reject all processed foods as much as possible. But, don't get mad at me if I have a can of tuna for lunch.

    Edited to add: I like the idea though. It helps me focus a little bit on my diet. When I reach for something in a bag, I will think twice about what a caveman might choose. I'm being serious, in a silly way. Just eat wholesome natural foods. Simple enough.
  • herownkindofwonderfull
    herownkindofwonderfull Posts: 307 Member
    bump to read later.
  • VegesaurusRex
    VegesaurusRex Posts: 1,018
    This is interesting reading. I'm not sure what the point of this post is. I couldn't tell. But, I read it all up to this point. I was searching for this topic becasue I have interest in this, although, I am beginning to quickly reject the idea for a very simple reason. In the way I think, Paleolithic man did not choose their diet. I doubt they were even healthy, since they all died at age 30, or whatever. I'm sure they would have been really happy to have a bag of rice hanging around to cook up when they ran short of food to eat.

    So, I am rejecting it due to it's silly-ness. If the paleo man chose their diet, than I would have respect for it. But, because we now have shipping vessels and a world market, I can choose other options, like pasta or rice or other foods that have benefits for my body.

    I do reject all processed foods as much as possible. But, don't get mad at me if I have a can of tuna for lunch.

    Edited to add: I like the idea though. It helps me focus a little bit on my diet. When I reach for something in a bag, I will think twice about what a caveman might choose. I'm being serious, in a silly way. Just eat wholesome natural foods. Simple enough.

    I agree with most of what you said, in particular with respect to the Paleo diet. There are some severe problems with the whole concept:

    1. First of all, no one knows what the Paleolithic diet was. There is no reason to believe that it was the same everywhere, any more than people's diet today is the same everywhere. I believe you are correct in saying they ate whatever didn't eat them first.

    2. You are also correct in saying that Paleolithic man did not live to a ripe old age. That being the case, the chronic diseases of old age were not a factor for Paleolithic man because they died before these diseases came into play. As a result of dying young, we really do not know how their diet would have affected them had they lived byond 35 or 40.

    3. Even if you wanted to, you probably could not reconstruct the Paleolitic diet. How many wooly mamouth steaks have you seen in the supermarket lately?

    4. Exercise for Paleolitic man was a huge part of his life. He probably spent most of his waking hours looking for food, or trying to avoid danger. Is this really the lifestyle you want?

    I think if you want to put together a diet that is optimal for the modern age, use studies on different diets and opinions of medical experts. In my opinion, a wholesome vegetarian diet is the optimal diet based on both studies of chronic diseases and the opinions of medical experts. The Paleo diet, as I understand it is a meat centered diet. I do not see how that can work long term.
  • beccarockslife
    beccarockslife Posts: 816 Member
    Why is it silly to follow the principals of a diet though?

    We all do it in some way, some push grains out of their diet and call themselves Paleo. Some follow the national guidelines, some avoid meat and call themselves Vegetarian, what does it matter, it all ends up being calories in calories out and what we chose to put in our bodies is our choice.
  • Do all humans eventually die of somethng? Well, duh yeah. But you die a lot faster if you eat things you were not designed to eat.

    That is basically the logic behind the Paleo Diet.

    I get really sick if I eat grains or dairy, but that doesn't mean I think the Paleo Diet is the answer for everyone.

    I don't find the diet to be "meat-centered" at all. I find the vast majority of what I eat is vegetables. Just saying.
  • ESVABelle
    ESVABelle Posts: 1,264 Member
    Jaw Motion
    Human: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

    Amen?!
  • the4grows
    the4grows Posts: 2
    I have found that blending the weight watchers core food idea with the ideas of the paleo diet I am less hungry and can eat more food for the calories I allow myself. I also count calories here using this ap and exercise daily or more often. I will eat grains or beans if I have to but I don't as much as possible because I can eat many more calories and feel less hungry. My splurge is generally a 100 calorie ice cream bar after dinner but other than that it's lean meats and fish and fresh veggies and fruit. NOT ATKINS. I do have to eat processed (canned tuna or pouches of salmon weekly because of convenience). I love the ap on here because it shows me how much protein I am eating and helps me keep my carbs low. If I get to the point where I am training for a marathon then I might introduce some grains into my diet but it's suiting me right now. Some Paleo people are hardcore but I live in a small town and it doesn't work for me to try to find grass fed, wild, cage free everything.

    I am losing weight, I do have energy and I do feel pretty great. Works for me. Always looking for yummy food options without sugar or starchy carbs.
  • GretchenReine
    GretchenReine Posts: 1,374 Member
    I didn't get past the first 2 paragraphs...does this make me a bad person?